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Disgraceful new sitcom coming to ABC

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  • #32
    Courtesy Flush
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    We all know who runs the TV and film industry in America.

    Thats very true
    I cant imagine there would be a sitcom on US TV making fun at Judaism


  • #33
    Mars Bar
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    The must insulting part is the belief that they are "a typical Irish Catholic family". Clearly Dan Savage has not actually spent much time with a real Irish family in Ireland.


  • #34
    FortySeven
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    Old Jakey wrote: »
    Yeah Christianity is an easy target in American TV and film, Christians usually being shown as bible thumping rednecks. Funny how other religions don't get the same treatment...


    The jews have the holocaust, the muslims will bomb you to death, the buddhists are too laid back and the atheists too sensible.

    Scientology gets a good thrashing, they're even madder than the catholics. :D


  • #35
    Duckworth_Luas
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    Courtesy Flush wrote: »
    Thats very true
    I cant imagine there would be a sitcom on US TV making fun at Judaism
    He wasn't talking about the Jews, he was talking about the Lizard People.


  • #36
    DanielODonnell
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    Mars Bar wrote: »
    The must insulting part is the belief that they are "a typical Irish Catholic family". Clearly Dan Savage has not actually spent much time with a real Irish family in Ireland.

    There are no Irish Catholics outside of island of Ireland as Irish Catholics are members of the Catholic church in Ireland, Paddy O'Finnegan from Ballydonagan who doesn't go to mass is not an Irish Catholic.


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  • #37
    DanielODonnell
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    and neither is Church of Ireland church goer Albert Doyle from south Dublin


  • #38
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Mars Bar wrote: »
    The must insulting part is the belief that they are "a typical Irish Catholic family". Clearly Dan Savage has not actually spent much time with a real Irish family in Ireland.

    A 4th generation Irish American family, they drop the American bit and label them Irish like Italian Americans are labelled Italian even though most at this stage have very little left in common with their modern day ancestral homelands.


  • #39
    DanielODonnell
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    Some white supremacists on Stormfront label themselves as Celtic Americans


  • #40
    Nodin
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    DanielODonnell wrote: »
    Some white supremacists on Stormfront label themselves as Celtic Americans

    Odd, I label them as knuckle dragging goons.


  • #41
    old_aussie
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    We all know who runs the TV and film industry in America.

    Who?


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  • #42
    old_aussie
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    Old Jakey wrote: »
    Yeah Christianity is an easy target in American TV and film, Christians usually being shown as bible thumping rednecks. Funny how other religions don't get the same treatment...

    They were going to do an islamic one, but no one wanted to die laughing


  • #43
    [Deleted User]
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    We all know who runs the TV and film industry in America.
    Courtesy Flush wrote: »
    Thats very true
    I cant imagine there would be a sitcom on US TV making fun at Judaism

    Curb Your Enthusiasm had a number of storylines based on Judaism, and ones that really pushed the envelope, the sex offender at the Seder, where the Holocaust survivor meets the Survivor tv show participant, having sex with a Palestinian woman, being overheard calling his wife Hitler etc. etc. etc.

    Jerry Seinfeld, Woody Allen, sheesh if anything Jews showed a marked ability to laugh at themselves. One show and the Catholics are seething...


  • #44
    blinding
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    You have to give sitcoms a fair go before you rubbish them.

    Many of the top sitcoms ever were nearly pulled before they became established. Then the experts come out as say they knew it was always going to be a hit.

    Its actually a sign of strength when human beings are able to laugh at themselves.

    The carry on of some in the muslim religion is just proof of how weak their religious beliefs are. The first minor affront/insult and their whole edifice comes crashing down. Do you think that if people truly believed that they would react in such a way at a minor affront/insult.

    Sitcoms are bit like religion ! You have to give them a fair go to see if they are right for you and even the best come to an end. A bit like the catholic church (not saying its the best by any means) in Ireland. It had its hay day but people have tired of it and it should just have the final episode and be done with it.


  • #45
    Nodin
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    Courtesy Flush wrote: »
    Thats very true
    I cant imagine there would be a sitcom on US TV making fun at Judaism

    You musn't have a TV.


  • #46
    Berserker
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    The priest in the interview saying that it won't last because it's not funny reminds me of this debate between John Cleese and Michael Palin and some bishops about 'the life of Brian' where the bishops keep calling it a second rate movie.

    A little perspective. The 'Life of Brian' is genius and incredibly funny. Unlike others here, I have a friend in Texas who has seen the pilot and she says that it just focuses on some perceived RC sore-points, eg the gay community, priests with a high standard of living etc. However, the biggest problem with it is that is it not funny in the slightest. She isn't RC but she is a devote Christian.


  • #47
    crockholm
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    There does appear to be something a bit iffy with how Irish American Catholics are portrayed,The Gallaghers in US Shameless,The Griffins from Family Guy,the Black Donnellys amongst others.There is definitely a list of who you can safely stereotype on American TV and I.A.C. are on that list with WASPs,Italian-Americans,Poor white southerners,Evangelicals among others.

    Larry David may be able to poke fun at his own tribe,but would the show be less accecptable if it contained the same humour yet was formulated by a gentile crew? Ditto with Chappelles show and The Boondoncks-would white or black people be so comfortable if it was white script writers lampooning and making fun of Black culture?

    Many don't like it,but in my opinion "South Park"is the only equal opportunities satirie on prime time US TV,I think that is all people are saying regards this new show.


  • #48
    Guy:Incognito
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Who?

    No, the stones


  • #49
    Nodin
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    crockholm wrote: »

    Larry David may be able to poke fun at his own tribe,but would the show be less accecptable if it contained the same humour yet was formulated by a gentile crew? Ditto with Chappelles show and The Boondoncks-would white or black people be so comfortable if it was white script writers lampooning and making fun of Black culture?

    ............

    Seeing as this is written by a gay fella from an Irish catholic family, I'm not seeing your point. Chappelles show was co-written by a white guy. Black Jesus has two writers, one white, one black.


  • #50
    trashcan
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    I read the title of this thread and thought ABC had bought the rights to Mrs Browns Boys ;)


  • #51
    RedemptionZ
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    Well, the show looks really bad from that trailer. Looks like it belongs on youtube rather than the TV. But let them at it, I'm not going to act offended by it. Do I think that there are certain groups who get offended a lot easier or are more vocal about getting offended than others? Yes, but I don't think we fall into that bracket.

    I was going to post about Judaism getting a free ride but to be fair after thinking about it Curb Your Enthusiasm has a lot of storylines that don't always paint Jews in the best light, the Palestinian episode in particular, seemed to be critical of Jewish society in America. I think the UK has some sitcom about a Muslim family, which doesn't look very good but I assume rips the piss on some of the Muslim culture in the UK.


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  • #52
    Billy86
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    fran17 wrote: »
    Looks like someone is looking for a cameo role in season 2 already.Not that this trash will get one.
    Well, given the world hasn't collapsed in on itself with the introduction of gay marriage, at least we know Nodin should be around for it. :)


  • #53
    DoYouEvenLift
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    Would love to see the reactions of some of the posters ITT and people in general if this show was about Muslims lol


  • #54
    Billy86
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    Old Jakey wrote: »
    Yeah Christianity is an easy target in American TV and film, Christians usually being shown as bible thumping rednecks. Funny how other religions don't get the same treatment...
    You must have missed the careers of Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, Larry David, Jerry Seinfeld, etc.

    I also don't remember there being a thread on Halal in the Family/The Qu'osby Show when that came out in April...


  • #55
    Billy86
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    They were going to do an islamic one, but no one wanted to die laughing
    Aasif Mandvi seems alive and well to me?


  • #56
    Billy86
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Curb Your Enthusiasm had a number of storylines based on Judaism, and ones that really pushed the envelope, the sex offender at the Seder, where the Holocaust survivor meets the Survivor tv show participant, having sex with a Palestinian woman, being overheard calling his wife Hitler etc. etc. etc.

    Jerry Seinfeld, Woody Allen, sheesh if anything Jews showed a marked ability to laugh at themselves. One show and the Catholics are seething...

    It's like the famine sitcom that was brought up a few months ago, AH posters are funny in terms of how many bleet on about "just telling it like it is", "you don't like it, don't watch/read/listen", "don't try to criticise my free speech" etc.

    But as soon as anything, even remotely controversial, strikes remotely close to home... oh then it's completely different! :pac:


  • #57
    eviltwin
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    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    Would love to see the reactions of some of the posters ITT and people in general if this show was about Muslims lol

    I'd feel the same. Don't like it don't watch. I think most Catholics can take it.


  • #58
    Capt'n Midnight
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Who?
    Who controls the British crown?
    Who keeps the metric system down?
    We do, we do!

    Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
    Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
    We do, we do!

    Who holds back the electric car?
    Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
    We do, we do!

    Who robs cavefish of their sight?
    Who rigs every Oscar night?
    We do!
    We do!!!


  • #59
    Billy86
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    crockholm wrote: »
    There does appear to be something a bit iffy with how Irish American Catholics are portrayed,The Gallaghers in US Shameless,The Griffins from Family Guy,the Black Donnellys amongst others.There is definitely a list of who you can safely stereotype on American TV and I.A.C. are on that list with WASPs,Italian-Americans,Poor white southerners,Evangelicals among others.

    Larry David may be able to poke fun at his own tribe,but would the show be less accecptable if it contained the same humour yet was formulated by a gentile crew? Ditto with Chappelles show and The Boondoncks-would white or black people be so comfortable if it was white script writers lampooning and making fun of Black culture?

    Many don't like it,but in my opinion "South Park"is the only equal opportunities satirie on prime time US TV,I think that is all people are saying regards this new show.
    Family Guy - Seth MacFarlane is from Connecticut, raised a Catholic, and of Irish/Scottish/English descent

    The Black Donnellys - Paul Haggis was raised a Catholic (before becoming an atheist, then a Scientologist, then an atheist again) and is from London, Ontario which is over 70% of Irish/Scottish/English descent.

    US Shameless - John Wells is of Irish/English/Scottish descent, and is Episcopalian (which describes itself as 'Protestant, yet Catholic' - whatever that means?), so more of a tenuous link - but it was also transplanted from a show based in Manchester which obviously has a massive Irish/Catholic community (couldn't find much about it's creator Paul Abbott's history though, apart from that he grew up in surroundings pretty similar to that of the show).

    This show - Dan Savage is gay (did that "It Gets Better" campaign a few years back, which suggests to me he didn't have the easiest time with it growing up), was raised in Chaicago as a Catholic and when to a school he described as "a Catholic high school in Chicago for boys thinking of becoming priests."





    That said, I'm pretty sure all of these shows and the other ones you mentioned had writers involved who were black, white, Asian, brown, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist or whatever.


  • #60
    bnt
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    I can't see YouTube videos at the moment, so I had to go searching just to find out what the title of the sitcom is. Search Google for "anti-catholic sitcom" ...OK, it's called "The Real O'Neals". Looks non-controversial, not going to do anything that Mom hasn't already done better (and louder). :p

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  • #61
    RobertKK
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    Sounds like a sitcom made with a chip on one's shoulder.


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