Breaking: NK shells SK western border

Streetwalker · 20-08-2015 10:43AM #1

With tensions at a very high level on the Korean border at present one would hope this situation doesn't worsen and cool heads can prevail.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34001126

Mr Freeze · 20-08-2015 10:47AM

Is this fairly common there? or is it rare that they shell each other?

The Highwayman · 20-08-2015 10:53AM

Just read the story! Is the fact they have ordered evacuations a real fear in escalation of hostilitys?

Streetwalker · 20-08-2015 11:00AM

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Is this fairly common there? or is it rare that they shell each other?

I know gunfire has been exchanged before not sure about shelling. Not good either way

Elmer Blooker · 20-08-2015 11:00AM

most people don't realise that north and south Korea are still at war as the 1950-53 conflict ended in stalemate without neither side coming to any agreement.

endacl · 20-08-2015 11:04AM

Dem Koreeens be cray cray.

Fallschirmjager · 20-08-2015 11:04AM

well not to get all technical...all they have in place since the korean war is an armistice..a perpetual ceasefire on the 38th parallel.

they wounded 2 south korean soldiers with mines about 2 weeks ago. this does tend to happen, the shelled an island when the son took over in NK a few years back and sank a SK boat a few years before that. the problem is its not good. Seoul is within artillery range of NK...so if it escalates it will get real nasty real fast.

there is about 20,000 US Marines stationed on the border also

20-08-2015 11:05AM

That's a lot of shots for one loud speaker.

Streetwalker · 20-08-2015 11:08AM

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

well not to get all technical...all they have in place since the korean war is an armistice..a perpetual ceasefire on the 38th parallel.

they wounded 2 south korean soldiers with mines about 2 weeks ago. this does tend to happen, the shelled an island when the son took over in NK a few years back and sank a SK boat a few years before that. the problem is its not good. Seoul is within artillery range of NK...so if it escalates it will get real nasty real fast.

there is about 20,000 US Marines stationed on the border also

That's why I hope to god it doesn't get out of hand because one nuke on a rocket would be in Seoul in minutes if it did. I wonder if the south have patriot style defence systems one would imagine they do with 20k marines in country.

padd b1975 · 20-08-2015 11:09AM

If I know anything about North Korea, we're probably talking sea shells here.

fleet_admiral · 20-08-2015 11:10AM

North Korea is best Korea

Menas · 20-08-2015 11:10AM

Streetwalker wrote: »

That's why I hope to god it doesn't get out of hand because one nuke on a rocket would be in Seoul in minutes if it did. I wonder if the south have patriot style defence systems one would imagine they do with 20k marines in country.

This. And the potential to drag China and the US in to a conflict that could have no winners. Not to mention Mr Putin...

TerrorFirmer · 20-08-2015 11:16AM

This happens frequently enough. It's always NK that starts it, SK retaliates. A good few people were killed a few years ago when NK shelled an Island.

The ROK is far more advanced than NK though, in an actual war or sustained conflict North Korea would come off extremely badly.

Streetwalker · 20-08-2015 11:22AM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

This happens frequently enough. It's always NK that starts it, SK retaliates. A good few people were killed a few years ago when NK shelled an Island.

The ROK is far more advanced than NK though, in an actual war or sustained conflict North Korea would come off extremely badly.

And that isn't a good thing. NK have millions of troops who are brainwashed and will be lambs to the slaughter. Wish someone would just send a missile to take out fat Kim he is a gimp of enormous proportions.

the evasion_kid · 20-08-2015 11:31AM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

This happens frequently enough. It's always NK that starts it, SK retaliates. A good few people were killed a few years ago when NK shelled an Island.

The ROK is far more advanced than NK though, in an actual war or sustained conflict North Korea would come off extremely badly.

I dunno about that shur didn't they land a man on the sun there a while ago,plus they came up with a cure for Ebola,AIDS and mers

Fallschirmjager · 20-08-2015 11:32AM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

I dunno about that shur didn't they land a man on the sun there a while ago,plus they came up with a cure for Ebola,AIDS and mers

dont forget the unicorns...the found the cave they came from...very important discovery....

c_man · 20-08-2015 11:39AM

It's hardly that big a deal compared to some of their more recent actions tbh.

iguana · 20-08-2015 11:50AM

Don't forget all the underground tunnels in NK that may or may not be full of zombies.

Nodin · 20-08-2015 11:54AM

If a shell crosses the north Korean border, does it land twenty minutes later than just before it crossed?

the evasion_kid · 20-08-2015 11:56AM

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

dont forget the unicorns...the found the cave they came from...very important discovery....

Not to mention beating Portugal to lift the world cup, and reportedly Kim jong-il first picked up a golf club in 1994, and shot a 38-under par round that included no fewer than 11 holes in one. Satisfied with his performance, he immediately declared his retirement from the sport......they are some winkles altogether!

BuilderPlumber · 20-08-2015 10:15PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

And that isn't a good thing. NK have millions of troops who are brainwashed and will be lambs to the slaughter. Wish someone would just send a missile to take out fat Kim he is a gimp of enormous proportions.

The Kim regime is arguably the worst regime in power at present. Unlike other dictatorships, there has been thus far no attempt whatsoever to reform or improve relations with other countries or to improve the economy. This far, there have been many executions resulting from internal feuds at the very top. Unlike when Kim Jong Il took power and made attempts in 1994 to appear more moderate than Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Un if anything has reversed any moderation his father initiated.

BUT is Kim the boss or the figurehead for a hardline military that needs to be on a war footing to survive? Perhaps a bit of the 2. Like many dictatorships, this regime needs real and imagined threats to survive and to justify a tight control of the population and the country's resources. Any dissidents in the country and within the regime and any attempt to reform from within the regime can be put down to South Korean plots and the like and stamped out so as to allow Kim and his buddies to stay in power.

The_Valeyard · 20-08-2015 10:17PM

iguana wrote: »

Don't forget all the underground tunnels in NK that may or may not be full of zombies.

They solved that problem by removing all the teeth of citizens.

Sunnyisland · 20-08-2015 10:24PM

"It's starting to get serious – China has warned North Korea about starting a war. China told them flat out, 'Do not fire any missiles at the United States at least until after we get our money. They owe us $16 trillion. Wait until then.'" –Jay Leno

suicide_circus · 20-08-2015 10:25PM

I think you're all forgetting that North Korea is best Korea.

BoJack Horseman · 20-08-2015 10:25PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

The ROK is far more advanced than NK though, in an actual war or sustained conflict North Korea would come off extremely badly.

Wouldn't be so sure.

Quantity has a quality of its own.

And SK is militarily pretty lethargic, with Uncle Sam there, they've been tardy with their own defence, to the annoyance of the US.

Cienciano · 20-08-2015 10:26PM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Not to mention beating Portugal to lift the world cup, and reportedly Kim jong-il first picked up a golf club in 1994, and shot a 38-under par round that included no fewer than 11 holes in one. Satisfied with his performance, he immediately declared his retirement from the sport......they are some winkles altogether!

But imagine living somewhere where you're afraid to laugh at that because even your family member might turn you in. Now imagine you're 50 and lived your entire lift like that. Bizarre

Iwasfrozen · 20-08-2015 10:26PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

That's why I hope to god it doesn't get out of hand because one nuke on a rocket would be in Seoul in minutes if it did. I wonder if the south have patriot style defence systems one would imagine they do with 20k marines in country.

Useless at that range. No defence system could save them.

the evasion_kid · 20-08-2015 11:03PM

Cienciano wrote: »

But imagine living somewhere where you're afraid to laugh at that because even your family member might turn you in. Now imagine you're 50 and lived your entire lift like that. Bizarre

I think seeing this a few years ago made me realise how messed up the place is.....except for old dude at 1.20...he looks as if he's having a right laugh altogether :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsNr9UJeVY

Capt'n Midnight · 20-08-2015 11:19PM

North Korea has a GDP of €40Bn , and that's the purchasing power parity figure as in downhill with the wind behind you.

Compare to

South Korea will increase its defense spending by over $200 billion over the next five years.

And the South has twice the population. And the North has logistical problems like feeding it's people. It's more sabre rattling.

DeadHand · 20-08-2015 11:34PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Wouldn't be so sure.

Quantity has a quality of its own.

And SK is militarily pretty lethargic, with Uncle Sam there, they've been tardy with their own defence, to the annoyance of the US.

Aye, I wouldn't dismiss the threat NK poses so easily either. Their army is antiquated but massive and fanatical. They could never win but could cause massive damage before being defeated.

Ulysses Gaze · 20-08-2015 11:46PM

the evasion_kid wrote: »

I dunno about that shur didn't they land a man on the sun there a while ago,plus they came up with a cure for Ebola,AIDS and mers

Sure the current Dear Leader not only inspired Elvis's hairstyle, he also taught him how to play karate.

Breaking: NK shells SK western border

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