Motors Chat - Round 9

frozenfrozen · 18-08-2015 08:02PM

it's just fishy to get the car that tidy, bring it out to a carpark to take pictures but leave kids toys in it almost to help try sell the 'one lady owner' aspect. where are the child seats / booster seats for these pictures and if they were taken out why weren't the toys. why one lady owner when you're dealing with a man and his brother and why two separate numbers on the ad? not trying to discourage you but just 9k is a lot to be handing over in cash to a person who essentially isn't the owner of the car. it could be a clone or stolen or have some massive issue. the guy leaving just after meeting you is alarm bells territory. it's like they're already making excuses for being uncontactable after the sale before it has even happened

Bolomaster · 18-08-2015 08:40PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

it's just fishy to get the car that tidy, bring it out to a carpark to take pictures but leave kids toys in it almost to help try sell the 'one lady owner' aspect. where are the child seats / booster seats for these pictures and if they were taken out why weren't the toys. why one lady owner when you're dealing with a man and his brother and why two separate numbers on the ad? not trying to discourage you but just 9k is a lot to be handing over in cash to a person who essentially isn't the owner of the car. it could be a clone or stolen or have some massive issue. the guy leaving just after meeting you is alarm bells territory. it's like they're already making excuses for being uncontactable after the sale before it has even happened

Basically this!

dr.fuzzenstein · 18-08-2015 08:40PM

An unexpected bit of luck that I wasn't aware of!
My car is 2006 and NCT was up January 2006. Got a letter from NCT, if it passes before 13 October 2015, I get another 2 years out of it. Nice!
Test booked for early September, fingers crossed.
Though this time I am quietly confident. If I can get the ABS light out on time! :eek:

edit:
Don't worry, it's only a sensor at the wheel (famous last words).
Can anyone recommend an app that can read Ford error codes? Torque is silent even on major system errors that show up on the dash.

nd · 18-08-2015 10:34PM

I honestly thought someone had stuck a gti badge on this. I think if I owned it i'd have to remove it.

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colm_mcm · 18-08-2015 10:36PM

Denis kinane did that. Put them on the front too.
Went to look at a civic there in 2012 and there were 6 like that for sale.

GvidoR · 18-08-2015 10:39PM

I hope he doesn't try to fool customers into thinking that it's a "Civic GTI".

colm_mcm · 18-08-2015 10:41PM

Anyone who drives a 1.4 civic, then buys it will know it's not a hot hatch!

GvidoR · 18-08-2015 10:55PM

For sure but would he say something along the lines of "Here's a lovely car we just got in this morning, a top of the line Honda Civic GTI; the performance model"?

colm_mcm · 18-08-2015 11:09PM

They were ultra straight any time I dealt with them. Their off-the-wall pricing was the only thing that stopped me buying (3 different times)

166man · 18-08-2015 11:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Also looked at this today;

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2009-vauxhall-insignia-sri-nav-6-speed/10129296?offset=2

Yer man said his best price was 9,200, which I'm not keen on. It's a nice motor, but the wheels are very noticeable on it (a good thing), but also noticeably scuffed (a bad thing). Of the two I think I prefer the 2011 Blue one.

I really don't know what to say to you at this stage. I have tried my best to point you in the right direction, or at least away from the less desirable cars and yet you never seem to listen. You end up with big long threads asking people for advice, and then go and do exactly the opposite.

I remember the days of the 407 debate. Near everyone said avoid avoid avoid, they have a bad reputation, they are cheap for a reason etc, and you went right ahead and bought one, and guess what, it turned out to be a pile of dung.

I'm a relatively patient chap, but I feel any advice I give falls on deaf ears. Insignias are incredibly hit and miss cars, some do huge mileage, and other ones fall apart, especially the older ones. They aren't particulary good cars, don't drive well, rough engine and gearbox, cheap feeling interior, and reliability isn't great.

I have said this to you and yet you are still convinced on buying one, a UK fleet import (most likely ragged given the state of the wheels in the one you linked). The other one has sky high mileage and will be even higher and less saleable when you are done with it.

I don't get why you continually ask for advice but rarely use it. It's very frustrating, hence why I asked you why don't you go out and buy a good car!

/rant over.

Good luck with whatever you buy. I hope it works out for you.

Noccy_Mondy · 18-08-2015 11:23PM

Oh meow.

:pac:

challengemaster · 18-08-2015 11:25PM

I think I've seen almost all that advice given against buying an alfa at one time or another, and yet... :pac:

166man · 18-08-2015 11:29PM

challengemaster wrote: »

I think I've seen almost all that advice given against buying an alfa at one time or another, and yet... :pac:

Sure I hate them yokes I'm driving a Mercedes at the moment, maybe that's why I'm so annoyed haha

Autosport · 18-08-2015 11:29PM

Our insignia is going great so obviously we got a hit

fancy pigeon · 18-08-2015 11:34PM

challengemaster wrote: »

I think I've seen almost all that advice given against buying an alfa at one time or another, and yet... :pac:

I can't keep away from French scrap myself

GvidoR · 18-08-2015 11:36PM

And I'm driving one of those Fix It Again Tomorrows

bear1 · 18-08-2015 11:43PM

Did a calculation of the average consumption on the Honda for the trip back and I think it's quite good.
Averaged 6.58l per 100km which in old terms is something like 43mpg.
The car was loaded to the balls, 2 adults and a lot of traffic, mountain climbing and frequent bursts of acceleration.
Curious now what it would do with one adult and shag all luggage considering these engines are renowned for not being as economical as they would like you to think.
In other news... the EML is on so I'm heading back to reality.

Hal1 · 18-08-2015 11:43PM

The amount of gold punto's I've seen in the past few days. It must have been a popular colour.

18-08-2015 11:44PM

166man wrote: »

I really don't know what to say to you at this stage. I have tried my best to point you in the right direction, or at least away from the less desirable cars and yet you never seem to listen. You end up with big long threads asking people for advice, and then go and do exactly the opposite.

I remember the days of the 407 debate. Near everyone said avoid avoid avoid, they have a bad reputation, they are cheap for a reason etc, and you went right ahead and bought one, and guess what, it turned out to be a pile of dung.

I'm a relatively patient chap, but I feel any advice I give falls on deaf ears. Insignias are incredibly hit and miss cars, some do huge mileage, and other ones fall apart, especially the older ones. They aren't particulary good cars, don't drive well, rough engine and gearbox, cheap feeling interior, and reliability isn't great.

I have said this to you and yet you are still convinced on buying one, a UK fleet import (most likely ragged given the state of the wheels in the one you linked). The other one has sky high mileage and will be even higher and less saleable when you are done with it.

I don't get why you continually ask for advice but rarely use it. It's very frustrating, hence why I asked you why don't you go out and buy a good car!

/rant over.

Good luck with whatever you buy. I hope it works out for you.

No one's really said anything negative about the Insignia?

A few have said that the blue one I specifically linked to was fairly suspicious (and the more I think of it the more I kinda agree).

The insignia in general hasn't taken any hits from anyone on here, though, has it? No ones claimed they're a bad car or not worth buying. You've given out a fair bit to me and advised I 'buy a good car', but, unless I'm mixing your posts up with someone else (and I genuinely could be, so don't take that the wrong way), I haven't seen you give m/any suggestions?

You give a lot of 'don't buy that' advice, but nothing much more elaborate? If you had my list of wants, and a total budget of 9-10k.. what would you buy..?

EDIT: I have went back to the 10/08/15 on this thread, and checked the buying thread I made, and the only post from you in relation to me is the 'buy a good car' advice..

GvidoR · 18-08-2015 11:52PM

Hal1 wrote: »

The amount of gold punto's I've seen in the past few days. It must have been a popular colour.

I've seen a couple of myself, but I wouldn't say many. Blue seems to be the most common colour on them, imo.

challengemaster · 18-08-2015 11:53PM

GvidoR wrote: »

I've seen a couple of myself, but I wouldn't say many. Blue seems to be the most common colour on them, imo.

Ah now, they're so common I'd say you see one every time you look out the window! :pac:

My old one was blue

fancy pigeon · 18-08-2015 11:55PM

GvidoR wrote: »

I've seen a couple of myself, but I wouldn't say many. Blue seems to be the most common colour on them, imo.

Why not combine the 2 and have a gold car with a tesseo blue bonnet...

Ded_Zebra · 19-08-2015 12:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

No one's really said anything negative about the Insignia? A few have said that the blue one I specifically linked to was fairly suspicious (and the more I think of it the more I kinda agree).

The insignia in general hasn't taken any hits from anyone on here, though, has it? No ones claimed they're a bad car or not worth buying. You've given out a fair bit to me and advised I 'buy a good car', but, unless I'm mixing your posts up with someone else (and I genuinely could be, so don't take that the wrong way), I haven't seen you give m/any suggestions?

You give a lot of 'don't buy that' advice, but nothing much more elaborate? If you had my list of wants, and a total budget of 9-10k.. what would you buy..?

Can I just tell you right now that they are a bad car. My dad had one from new to 3 and a bit years old and about 180,000KM if I remember correctly. The car was driven fairly hard but really was well looked after, full on time Opel history etc.
The single worst thing was the gearbox, it was like something from a tractor in the 70s when it was cold. Particularly in the cold winter we had you could forget being able to select any gear basically until the oil was warm. The ratios weren't great either. Gearbox could be crunchy at the best of times.
For about the last 8 months we had it it had a performance issue where it would just cut boost/fuel under load. very annoying. Opel could never get to the bottom of it.
All the interior trip plastics faded different amounts which meant the tops of the doors and dash didn't match any more and the hard and soft plastics on the dash faded different amounts too.
DMF failed on christmas eve.
I'm sure there was more wrong with it too but that was enough to put me off ever spending my own money on one. The Passat we had before it and the Optima after it are far superior.

Noccy_Mondy · 19-08-2015 12:00AM

Spent my evening trying to get caked on brake dust off an old set of alloys. Whoever had them before me would want to be shot, they never seen a proper cleaning. The front ones are chronic bad. Although petrol and a cloth seems to remove it eventually.

166man · 19-08-2015 12:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

No one's really said anything negative about the Insignia? A few have said that the blue one I specifically linked to was fairly suspicious (and the more I think of it the more I kinda agree).

The insignia in general hasn't taken any hits from anyone on here, though, has it? No ones claimed they're a bad car or not worth buying. You've given out a fair bit to me and advised I 'buy a good car', but, unless I'm mixing your posts up with someone else (and I genuinely could be, so don't take that the wrong way), I haven't seen you give m/any suggestions?

You give a lot of 'don't buy that' advice, but nothing much more elaborate? If you had my list of wants, and a total budget of 9-10k.. what would you buy..?

EDIT: I have went back to the 10/08/15 on this thread, and checked the buying thread I made, and the only post from you in relation to me is the 'buy a good car' advice..

Did you hear about the Insignia Thermal Incident? Insignias catching Fire randomly due to a pwoer steering fluid leak? Or about the gearboxes made from chocolate? List of issues seem to be endless.... The ones you're looking at also seem to be at the rougher end of the scale. I think the newer ones were much improved.

I haven't suggested any cars to buy because it seems your heart is set on an Insignia! Why would I waste my time elaborating when it doesn't seem to be taken any notice of? The 407 was classic, I remember at the time, all your posts asking about it, and people all suggesting you avoid. You did the opposite and bought a complete lemon.. Remind me again why I would be recommending cars for you to buy...?

Seeing as you asked though, I'll give it one last shot....

A well specced Golf estate could do the trick. Newer CR Diesel engines are much improved on the older units. An Octavia estate could also be a runner?

Ford Focus estate of that era with the 1.8/2.0 diesels engine? Volvo make decent cars too, this is what I'd have personally.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/9922198
Volvo V70 D5 AWD SE Geartronic//mint Co

Yes the tax is higher, but it has everything else going for it. Loads of toys, superb diesel engine, loads of space, peace of mind from a dealer. Screw the tax and buy something like that would be what I'd do.

GvidoR · 19-08-2015 12:06AM

166man wrote: »

Or about the gearboxes made from chocolate?

Sounds delicious. :pac:

fancy pigeon · 19-08-2015 12:11AM

GvidoR wrote: »

Sounds delicious. :pac:

Your Punto had a chocolate diff...

19-08-2015 12:15AM

166man wrote: »

Did you hear about the Insignia Thermal Incident? Insignias catching Fire randomly due to a pwoer steering fluid leak? Or about the gearboxes made from chocolate? List of issues seem to be endless.... The ones you're looking at also seem to be at the rougher end of the scale. I think the newer ones were much improved.

I haven't suggested any cars to buy because it seems your heart is set on an Insignia! Why would I waste my time elaborating when it doesn't seem to be taken any notice of? The 407 was classic, I remember at the time, all your posts asking about it, and people all suggesting you avoid. You did the opposite and bought a complete lemon.. Remind me again why I would be recommending cars for you to buy...?

Surely if you're not interested in engaging me, then throwing me on the 'ignore' list would be the sensible option (or just skipping by my posts)?

I'm by no means set on an Insignia. I do like them, but I'm trying to get something that meets all my criteria and doesn't leave me completely cashless.

Seeing as you asked though, I'll give it one last shot....

A well specced Golf estate could do the trick. Newer CR Diesel engines are much improved on the older units. An Octavia estate could also be a runner?

Ford Focus estate of that era with the 1.8/2.0 diesels engine? Volvo make decent cars too, this is what I'd have personally.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/9922198
Volvo V70 D5 AWD SE Geartronic//mint Co

Yes the tax is higher, but it has everything else going for it. Loads of toys, superb diesel engine, loads of space, peace of mind from a dealer. Screw the tax and buy something like that would be what I'd do.

The tax is what would kill that for me. I don't know what it actually is, but I presume €1,080? Along with it being an auto, aswell.

I'll go looking for Golfs and Octavias, but I haven't really seen either on my journeys yet (actually, that's not true.. I think I may have seen a red Golf estate on Donedeal, but could be wrong).

19-08-2015 12:19AM

Anyone driving a C5?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/citroen-c5-vtr-2-0-hdi-140-bhp-tax/9559630?offset=24

Megane in a different guise?

Ded_Zebra · 19-08-2015 12:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone driving a C5?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/citroen-c5-vtr-2-0-hdi-140-bhp-tax/9559630?offset=24

Megane in a different guise?

Do these still have the good suspension or are they boring now?

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