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Blurred lines of friends with benefits

  • 16-08-2015 01:01AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 18


    Having met this guy on line we decided we'd hook up. We were clear at the start it would be a bit of fun and whatever happened happened. So we met and chatted and got on ok. We got really drunk and had sex. All grand. He text after that to say he'd like to meet up again. I thought fine. But didn't really care either way. So over the next 3 months plans to meet fell through and I lost interest. But he would always keep up the texting. Then a friend suggested that he wouldn't be hanging around like that for that long if he didn't have some kind of interest and I'd want to hurry up and meet him again if I wanted to hold his attention. So I arranged for him to come to my house. It went really well and he stayed over until the next afternoon. He left saying we'd do it again soon. After that he started to text me everyday and his messages were full of smiley faces and kisses and pet names. I'm thinking wft has gotten into this guy. So this continues for a couple of weeks....the texting that is. I haven't met him since. So I find myself starting to like the guy so I draw back. Now as I said I wasn't looking for a relationship. So I perused other love interests.....namely an ex who had become keen again. I end up sleeping with my ex. All fine
    So I'm texting with the other dude and I start to tell him a story about how I had to go with my friend on a date because the guy she was meeting insisted on bringing a friend. I laughed about how I hoped this guy wouldn't expect anything of me. Then he replied sure ur a free agent. Fair enough I thought. But for some reason it got my back up so I ended up telling him I had been with someone else. He was cool and asked me who out of curiosity ans I told him my ex. Then he got kinda cool. So I asked him was it a bit weird for him and he said..... a lil bit yea. So I asked him if it bothered him to which he replied of course not. So what's the problem then I think! I explained that it didn't mean I didn't like him. Which it doesn't, I really do like him but it's not a relationship. So I said you've gone quiet on me. He just replied......Mmmmh. I sent a question mark but all I got back was enjoy ur night. Having a beer x. I mean why am I getting the cold shoulder. I don't see why he has beef here. Am I right in thinking he's pissed because I was with someone else? Surely not. I doubt he's been the Virgin Mary since we met either. Or is he weird because I said I liked him? Bloody hell of course I like him!! I wouldn't spend time with him if I didn't like him as a person. It doesn't mean I want to marry him and have babies


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭laserlad2010


    So.... You like this guy, he likes you, he confirms you're a free agent, and then you go and rub his face in it? With your ex?

    The guy was just protecting himself. No guy wants to get involved on any level with a girl who has an ex on the scene. He clearly started to like you, but confirmed you weren't in any sort of relationship. At this point it would have been a good idea to stop labouring the point.

    Instead you send a text that to any outsider, and indeed him, has a clear intent of messing with him. You already had the confirmation of FWB, now in his eyes you're attempting to make him jealous. Of course any sane guy would be considering pulling back.

    I'm sorry, but even though he shouldn't have blurred the lines with his affection, he's acted entirely appropriately by acting cool with someone who is still involved with her ex and tells him about it, even though it's pretty clear that he has feelings for her.

    It's not going to work. You know he has stronger feelings for you, don't mess him about, and find someone who doesn't like you as much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭Jotunheim


    The communication here seems to consist of two people being dishonest with themselves and each other, playing it cool to hide what they want, not admitting to investment, having no clue how to read each other and doing most of it by text of some kind. How in the name of jaysis would that *not* lead to a totally unsatisfactory situation? Talk to each other face to face and have an honest conversation before he make any more of a mess and If it's not worth that then just leave it and move on.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Are you trying to say you didnt know he was emotionally invested? Hes texting you everyday. Of course you knew. If you want to be cool with him then dont feed off his daily attention and basically string him along, then rub his face in it when you want him to back off. The initial agreement you both made to stay cool changed on his part. His actions will have told you that. Youve now bluntly told him how things stand, of course he is going to back off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    So.... You like this guy, he likes you, he confirms you're a free agent, and then you go and rub his face in it? With your ex?


    This.

    Talking about how you're still having sex with your ex, is telling the new guy hes the 'rebound guy'.

    If you want to know the story, talk to him. Friends with benefits is over. You need to figure out where the relationship goes next


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Typer Monkey


    Basically your pride was hurt when he said 'you're a free agent' so, knowing he was keen on you, you decided to put the boot in and tell him you were sleeping with your ex as revenge for denting your pride. Nice! No wonder he got thick with you.

    Decide what you want and act decently would be my advice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    I'm afraid this situation is entirely of your own making. You guys had quite a fun set up by the sounds of things and your bid to make him jealous backfired. He mightn't have been quite ready to propose a romantic sail into the sunset but no guy wants to hear about sexual conquests concurrent with their involvement either. I think he has behaved entirely as one would expect given the situation. If you DO like him then stop playing games but I'd be wary that you may face missed the boat on this particular occasion unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭OnTheCouch


    OP you seem slightly confused as to your true feelings towards this person. The two times you have met up with him everything seems to have gone really well. Now you do say in fairness that you don't want a relationship. But then when he confirmed this in words to you, you took it quite badly and decided to inform him that you slept with your ex, which you must have known was going to be quite hurtful, given it was clear he liked you. And in defence of internet guy, he seemingly acted quite gentlemanly about it, even though deep down he may have been seriously gutted. But it's inevitable now he's going to go quiet, 'lick his wounds metaphorically' so to speak. So yes, you could argue that he should have said straight up that he liked you, but as others have mentioned, it did seem patently obvious through his actions etc. There was no real need as far as I can see to mention the meetup with your ex, usually honesty is the best policy but here it almost certainly was a case of what he doesn't know won't hurt him, especially as you weren't official or anything.

    I'm just curious, and yes I may be getting dangerously close to none of my business territory, but are there any specific reasons why you don't want a relationship now? Or more specifically, why not with internet guy? Like is there something about him that even though you get on like a house on fire when together, would make you think twice about wanting to be seen in public with him, as a couple? For instance, perhaps he dresses really badly, is maybe quite unattractive, is his behaviour sometimes not politically correct, which may dissuade you from introducing him to people, or is there a significant age gap between you (older/younger)?

    You do seem slightly undecided as to whether you simply want to play the field or get into something more serious. I think this happens frequently enough when the heart and the head want different things so to speak. It does appear that you wanted internet guy to show his hand, which would have been doubly advantageous for you: your self-esteem would have received a boost and the ball would then have been in your court, you could decide then whether to reciprocate his feelings or say no, you would have had the power essentially. When he verbalised the situation that you ostensibly wanted, I assume that it was unexpectedly hurtful to you, that logically it was the correct thing to say, but deep down it felt like a rejection. So you decided to lash out and hurt him and now you may have lost him for good.

    Sorry if some of that sounds harsh, but that's the way I see it. I hope some of these answers can help you do something about the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Christ. If you like someone, you don't express it by giving them the cold shoulder, popping up to tell then you're hooking up with your ex but it doesn't mean you don't like them, and then berating them for not responding with enthusiasm to that particular revelation.

    If some guy did the above to me I'd tell him to take a walk off a cliff and then wonder how I ended up getting involved with such a muppet in the first place. Seriously. No offence OP, but you sound about 13 with the blatant attention seeking and game playing over text.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭CaraMay


    Op the guy is hardly going to jump for joy when he finds out you are jumping from his bed to your ex's and back again. Nobody would. Are you happy to keep doing this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 annabann


    There's no game playing here. I've been totally honest with him. When he asked me at the start what I wanted from this I said a bit of fun and if something comes of it then ok. I have no doubt that he's not seeing others as well. I had a pretty ****y ending to a long term relationship last year so am in no space to rush into anything else. The thing with my ex (a diff guy and was never anything serious) was a one off so I'm not seeing him. But that's neither here nor there.
    When I was told I was a free agent I joked about saying I knew I was and who says I hadn't availed of it already. His reply was to say exactly and to ask me who. So I told him to be both honest with him and to answer his direct question. If it bothered him why would he ask to know more? Again no games I offered the truth when he asked. Didn't think he'd get cool about it. I assumed he was doing the same. It knocked me back when he said it was a little weird.
    To answer another poster yes I do like the guy a lot. I wouldn't spend time with him if I didn't. Maybe I'm invested more than I think too but just don't want to get involved in a relationship after being through the ringer with someone else. I wanted to play the field and have some fun while I got back to feeling like I wanted a relationship. So this arrangement suited me. I'm not sure where to go from here with this guy. I know I should encourage him to tell me exactly what's going on in his mind about it. But that's if he ever speaks to me again. I've no intention of seeing my ex again or starting anything with him. I'd love to be brave enough to text this guy and say something. He says he's not bothered yet he cut me off pretty quick. Wouldn't it be great if we could all be upfront about feelings. I should just ask him is this just a sex thing for him or not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭laserlad2010


    Ask him on a date. If he says no then you've lost nothing because in your eyes he's not going to speak to you again anyway.

    If you do go on a date just ask if he wants to go on another one, and another one, and repeat ad nauseum until you guys become official or die a painful breakup death.

    "who says I haven't already" Jesus H. Christ. Here's the bottom line. This guy has given you lots of indicators that he likes you more than just the odd ride. He gives you a chance "you're a free agent" to let him know you're interested in just him... But, no, annabann smashes that one right outta the park!! So then he's trying damage limitation for himself, trying to gauge just how little interest you have in anything serious by asking with whom you are sleeping... and BOOM!! ANOTHER HOME RUN!! He finds out that he's now competing with an ex! Time to press the eject button and move on, because to him you're not worth it, simple as.

    Stop making excuses, text him. Or don't text him. Make a decision and stick to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    annabann wrote: »
    When I was told I was a free agent I joked about saying I knew I was and who says I hadn't availed of it already. His reply was to say exactly and to ask me who. So I told him to be both honest with him and to answer his direct question. If it bothered him why would he ask to know more? Again no games I offered the truth when he asked.

    No, you told him to provoke a reaction because his saying you were a 'free agent' riled you. You wanted to press him, to make him jealous for the benefit of your own ego. And you got your little ego boost when he got silent with you. He obviously cares, bingo, happy days.

    I'm not pointing this out to be a dick; I'm simply trying to make you see why your behaviour has caused him to cut you off. It's not caring, considerate behaviour that would encourage the guy to pursue anything with you. It screams headwrecker and timewaster. Why mention your ex if it was a one-off and you have no intention of seeing him again? If I was interested in a guy and had hooked up with someone else, the last thing I'd want was him to know about it and have the picture of me with my ex in his head. To think that I was potentially off the market again. That would be madness.

    Quit all this texting bullsh1t and be an adult here. If you want to see the guy again, apologize for messing with his head and ask him out so you can talk about things. Tell him you like him and don't know how he feels given how things have been between the two of you and that has caused you to be a bit inconsistent in your contact with him and you're sorry for that. And take it from there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 annabann


    Well I just got it out of him that it was just a bit of fun for him too. I explained that I do like him and that I wouldn't spend anytime on him if I didn't. I asked him right out is it just a bit of fun for u. He said yes it is. I just said as was my intention that I didn't want anything but at the same time I had great time for him and we had a laugh. I said that I just wanted his take on it. I finished by saying I was prob just pissing him off now and that I'd leave him be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    You told him 'if something comes of it that'd be ok'. What he heard is 'there is a chance that something will come of this'. If you didn't want a relationship you shouldn't have led him to believe there was a chance of a relationship. No wonder he's gotten cool since finding out you're sleeping with your ex


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    annabann wrote: »
    Well I just got it out of him that it was just a bit of fun for him too. I explained that I do like him and that I wouldn't spend anytime on him if I didn't. I asked him right out is it just a bit of fun for u. He said yes it is. I just said as was my intention that I didn't want anything but at the same time I had great time for him and we had a laugh. I said that I just wanted his take on it. I finished by saying I was prob just pissing him off now and that I'd leave him be.

    Well, of course he said that.

    You messed him about by telling him you were off shagging someone else. Why would he admit to wanting anything other than sex now? He's going to try save his dignity by making out like it's just a laugh for him too.

    I think you should just leave this one be and learn how to conduct yourself in a fcuk buddy situation. Telling them about other people you sleep with is a crappy thing to do.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yea, have to agree that if I found out a girl I was interested in (and actively pursuing, because, like other have mentioned, he most definitely is pursuing you) got with an ex, it would somewhat put me off a tiny bit. It just kind of seems like you played this whole thing kinda badly and are now facing the consequences of that. Now - this isn't to say that you shouldn't have slept with your ex, because like has been pointed out, you're a "free agent" and can sleep with whoever you want, but just the way you handled it with this particular guy was a bit wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    You put him in a position where he could say very little without losing face.

    In future a good idea not to talk to men about other men.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    He is in defensive mode now. Of course he is going to say the right words to you. The situation is one where he cant express hurt or annoyance because hes not supposed to feel them. He had no claim on you, its how you set it up. So why on earth do you expect him to express feelings for you when you have explicitly told him its just fun, and gone further than that with physical proof that he isnt important to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭OnTheCouch


    annabann wrote: »
    I have no doubt that he's not seeing others as well.

    Do you mean he is seeing others? Because the way it's written makes it sounds like you know he's only got eyes for you, which would be inconsistent with other stuff you have mentioned.

    And if it is a typo...do you know this for a fact or are you just assuming? In my experience this is often a misconception women have of men, that being if they are single, they are shagging everything that moves, which, although certainly true in many cases, is definitely not the case for all men. He does sound like he's put all his eggs in one basket, despite what he said when you asked him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 annabann


    No definate proof. But ya he's meeting other girls online. Plenty of new female adds on his Facebook and I also noticed him online on pof this morning. So Yip reckon I can take it as a given. But look he was also a free agent to do what he wanted. I'm not going to contact him anymore about this. I'm only getting very short replies so no point. I actually think at this stage he's ego is not bruised he's just not interested and never was. He was just out for friends with benefits as we agreed it would be. I think What I said first day was fun and whatever happens happens


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭prettyrestless


    annabann wrote: »
    No definate proof. But ya he's meeting other girls online. Plenty of new female adds on his Facebook and I also noticed him online on pof this morning. So Yip reckon I can take it as a given. But look he was also a free agent to do what he wanted. I'm not going to contact him anymore about this. I'm only getting very short replies so no point. I actually think at this stage he's ego is not bruised he's just not interested and never was. He was just out for friends with benefits as we agreed it would be. I think What I said first day was fun and whatever happens happens

    OP you clearly don't want to listen to the advice that was offered and that's entirely your choice. Just try to have a bit more common sense. Even if there's no commitment, and you're both open to seeing other people there's no need to be sharing details of who you're banging. No one wants to hear that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    annabann wrote: »
    No definate proof. But ya he's meeting other girls online. Plenty of new female adds on his Facebook and I also noticed him online on pof this morning. So Yip reckon I can take it as a given. But look he was also a free agent to do what he wanted. I'm not going to contact him anymore about this. I'm only getting very short replies so no point. I actually think at this stage he's ego is not bruised he's just not interested and never was. He was just out for friends with benefits as we agreed it would be. I think What I said first day was fun and whatever happens happens

    Well yeah, of course he's going to be back on POF and sending you short replies. What do you expect after telling him you slept with someone else?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    OP, the fact you're not acknowledging your fault in this proves what's been said about you not being mature and self aware to handle this.

    The guy clearly liked you. You made sure to tell him you were a free agent and then told him of your thing with the ex.
    And now you're surprised he's off with you?

    As with most men, I'm not in the market for a head wrecker or someone who comes loaded with drama and attention seeking. I'm not surprised at all he's distanced himself.

    You need to learn to see this from a different perspective than your own and maybe see how he got burned, and then had no choice but to hide the hurt by saying "ah yeah, it was just fun."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 annabann


    No I'm taking it on board. Guess it's just my own insecurity that thinks he didn't like me. So any advice on how I can fix this if I've hurt him? Should I just leave him alone or try to give him some space and then talk to him again. I do like him I didn't want to hurt him.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What do you want, OP? Do you even know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    annabann wrote: »
    No I'm taking it on board. Guess it's just my own insecurity that thinks he didn't like me. So any advice on how I can fix this if I've hurt him? Should I just leave him alone or try to give him some space and then talk to him again. I do like him I didn't want to hurt him.

    Then tell him you like him.

    Be honest to him with your feelings and that you made a mistake by provoking a reaction from him.

    This is not a game of car and mouse, just own up to your feelings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 annabann


    I just did. I was completely honest with him. I told him that I started to like him in the last couple of weeks and that it freaked me out because it was only meant to be a bit of fun. That to stop myself getting attached I was with someone else to nip it in the bud. ****ed up I know but I have good reason to protect myself. I said nothing because nobody wants to be the one to lay their cards on the table and be vulnerable. I said that he made it clear that he didn't like me when he said it was just a bit of fun to him. But that was ok because that was the original deal. Then I just came straight out and said did he want to stop and cut contact. He's read the message but hasn't replied. So I guess I have my answer now for sure.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    annabann wrote: »
    I just did. I was completely honest with him. I told him that I started to like him in the last couple of weeks and that it freaked me out because it was only meant to be a bit of fun. That to stop myself getting attached I was with someone else to nip it in the bud. ****ed up I know but I have good reason to protect myself. I said nothing because nobody wants to be the one to lay their cards on the table and be vulnerable. I said that he made it clear that he didn't like me when he said it was just a bit of fun to him. But that was ok because that was the original deal. Then I just came straight out and said did he want to stop and cut contact. He's read the message but hasn't replied. So I guess I have my answer now for sure.

    I just wanted to bold out that line to you and point out just how stupid it was. You acted the way you did, because you didn't want to feel vulnerable? Here's the thing-- somebody has to. Somebody has to lay their cards on the table, otherwise how on Earth would anything get started? And he did. He laid his cards on the table, but you just picked them up and tore them up.

    Something kind of tells me that this might be a lost cause ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    annabann wrote: »
    I just did. I was completely honest with him. I told him that I started to like him in the last couple of weeks and that it freaked me out because it was only meant to be a bit of fun. That to stop myself getting attached I was with someone else to nip it in the bud. ****ed up I know but I have good reason to protect myself. I said nothing because nobody wants to be the one to lay their cards on the table and be vulnerable. I said that he made it clear that he didn't like me when he said it was just a bit of fun to him. But that was ok because that was the original deal. Then I just came straight out and said did he want to stop and cut contact. He's read the message but hasn't replied. So I guess I have my answer now for sure.

    I don't blame him for not replying. You've come across as a headwrecker and someone who has no idea what they want. Use this as a lesson for the future!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    annabann wrote: »
    No I'm taking it on board. Guess it's just my own insecurity that thinks he didn't like me. So any advice on how I can fix this if I've hurt him? Should I just leave him alone or try to give him some space and then talk to him again. I do like him I didn't want to hurt him.

    Jesus lads - hold on now. Maybe both have been playing some sort of game. But both are responsible adults. He had every opportunity also to say something if he did like her!

    OP I dont see what youve done wrong - you are a free agent (as he also told you) bar feeding the man's ego. And by the sounds of it, he has a fragile one.


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