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D4 accent

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  • #62
    Menas
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    The D4 accent is like ... Yock. Hello.


  • #63
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Chris___ wrote: »
    So the children are faking American accents? Since the late 80s their mothers/fathers/Grandparents spoke with Brit accents. D4 is the home of the West Brits.

    the residents of Irishtown and Ringsend might disagree


  • #64
    anncoates
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    An antecedent of that pseudo American drawl accent has been around for years. In Trinity, I always associated it with greater South Dublin and places like Rathgar, Ranelagh, Blackrock etc that went to a small number of private schools in those areas.


  • #65
    Riesen_Meal
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    the residents of Irishtown and Ringsend might disagree

    Defo!

    I'm working in Ballsbridge at the moment, its focking everywhere loike, mind you I'm a northsider, they need to see my passport crossing the East Link....


  • #66
    [Deleted User]
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    This come up on boards a lot.


    Its very had to fake an accident long them so the accent is real in that sense, accents change over time they are not fixed, look up estuary English its an interesting phenomena.


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  • #67
    Sam Kade
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    Lia_lia wrote: »
    I'm from Killarney town, we don't really speak like that.
    Did you ever wander outside it it's not exactly New York city?


  • #68
    VisibleGorilla
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    The real sad issue is that people put it on for so long, that younger generations generally do talk like that... unreal.


  • #69
    Sam Kade
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    This come up on boards a lot.


    Its very had to fake an accident long them so the accent is real in that sense, accents change over time they are not fixed, look up estuary English its an interesting phenomena.
    Wrong, people who change their accents over a short time have false accents. If their accents evolved it would happen gradually over a few generations.


  • #70
    cson
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    Aidric wrote: »
    It might be grating but it beats a scummy inner city accent any day.

    Ah heyor... Leave ih ouuuuu :eek:


  • #71
    gimmick
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    Its those who pronounce their Ts as Ds, Ks as Gs etc is what gets me

    "I was looging at twidder, but my baddery died, and I couldn't recharge it was there was no elecdricidy"

    There is no single location for this ****e, its just carried everywhere by idiots, men and women.


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  • #72
    gimmick
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    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    This form of speech actually has a term. 'Uptalking'. It is a manner of speech that is not well received by anyone of note.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/caveman-logic/201010/the-uptalk-epidemic

    Excellent article. Uptalk is bloody infuriating but I am not sure is it as confined to women as the writer asserts.

    That being said, I know a few women who fall exactly into this and I think a lot of it is down to some women reverting to a horrendous 50s stereotype that they dont want to sound too clever for fear men wont like them.

    In fact, I know such a person. Hates to give an opinion on anything and always plays dumb on stuff even if we all know full well she is only playing it on.


  • #73
    riffmongous
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    the residents of Irishtown and Ringsend might disagree

    Were they not downgraded to D4west? Or was that a sideline in a ROCK book? I honestly can't remember anymore :D


  • #74
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    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Wrong, people who change their accents over a short time have false accents. If their accents evolved it would happen gradually over a few generations.

    The phenomenon of the D4 accent has been noted for at least 25 to 30 years, just because it annoyed you doesn't make it not real, accents evolve.


  • #75
    Sam Kade
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    The phenomenon of the D4 accent has been noted for at least 25 to 30 years, just because it annoyed you doesn't make it not real, accents evolve.
    People change their original accents to the D4 crap that isn't evolving.


  • #76
    ChippingSodbury
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    katemarch wrote: »
    ...
    and that awful "O" - saying Rain-debate for Roundabout
    ...

    Ha ha ha!! I've been trying to figure out how to spell Rain-debate in my head for the last few minutes. I had roin-de-boite but yours is much better!!!


  • #77
    Eugene Norman
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    mada999 wrote: »
    yeah I hear alot of Americannny twang going around Ireland these days... especially people being interviewed on the radio (especially bloggers etc) and adding in the "ummm i guess, bla bla blaa", "ummmm like".. And whats with people calling their mam, mom :confused:

    I also agree with the poster who said accents are homogenising.

    Irish people have picked up American idioms for years. Since the talkies. Not the same as an accent ( neither is up talking which is by the way being replaced by its opposite, the vocal fry I the U.S., that vocalisation where the sentence drawls off at the end).

    And irelands accents arent homogenising that much, I don't hear much American influence on the inner city, north side, tallaght accents in Dublin nor in very many regional accents. Nor is fake American a D4 accent. It does exist. Jedward has it ( where are they from?) but it isn't that common.


  • #78
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    Sam Kade wrote: »
    People change their original accents to the D4 crap that isn't evolving.

    Its most unlikely that circa 1985 a lot of young people in south Dublin decide to change their accents it not as self-conscious as that.

    I was reading a really interesting article about accents, posh accents are judged as well, so apparently its best to have a light neutral lower middle class accent as subconsciously it says I am educated but not posh and it make it harder for people to place you, humans have all sort of unconscious prejustices.


  • #79
    Sky King
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    There are loads of accents in Dublin alone and a lot of them referred to as D4 (and funnily enough these in general don't come from D4).

    Firstly, you have the 'conservative dublin' accent. This is a much older and more established accent than the one you hear the kids speaking today, Think Ryan Tubridy. It's actually quite pleasant to listen to, as this diction is extremely clear and doesn't really have (to my ear) any annoying idosyncracies.

    Then you have the Ross O'Carrol-Kelly Michael McMullen accent which is the oldskool posh dublin accent, most common around the slightly older generations in Dalkey, Foxrock and enviorns. Slightly more irritating.

    The third 'D4 accent' is the one that people complain about mostly, and it is the hybrid D4American accent. It is the most common of the three and is probably the one you are least likely to actually hear in Dublin 4.
    They say things like 'Thots Gadding Badder' (i.e. That's getting better) and end sentences with a questioning tone. This seems to mostly affect a certain type of person (mainly young girls who want to fit in) and a lot of people grow out of it or lose it as they get older. I find it fascinating people who are born, bred and buttered somewhere like Carlow sporting this accent.


  • #80
    harry Bailey esq
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    Aidric wrote: »
    it beats a scummy inner city accent any day.

    Im from the inner city,born and bred,and obviously speak with an inner city accent.Therefore, I MUST be a scummy,lazy miscreant.And there was me in my ignorance thinking that I was a normal Joe Soap.Your post makes me see the value in conversing with my betters,and realising my place in the world.Thanks for that..God where are my manners,what i meant to say was nice one bud.
    Could I be so bold as to ask where you hail from yourself friend?


  • #81
    gimmick
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    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Im from the inner city,born and bred,and obviously speak with an inner city accent.Therefore, I MUST be a scummy,lazy miscreant.

    At least you can admit it.


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  • #82
    harry Bailey esq
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    gimmick wrote: »
    At least you can admit it.

    Must be a bit of culchie in me so,because, as I'm sure you well know, those of us with 'scummy' Dublin accents are schooled from early childhood(by our equally scummy parents)to keep our mouths shut and admit nothing.A trait that will stand us in good stead later on in life when we(inevitably) find ourselves on the wrong side of the table in the interview room of a garda station ;)


  • #83
    farmchoice
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    i find accents really interesting and love the fact that in Ireland we have so many. the UK is the same.
    as a previous poster mentioned there are a good few distinct accents in Dublin and this is true of else where as well. i'm from mayo and can easily identify 5 -6 distinct regional variations on the mayo accent. in fact in my town there are 2 very clearly distinct accents, i doubt someone from else where could tell the difference but if your from my town you could.

    i thinks the reason people get annoyed by the ''D4'' accent is that more often then not its put on. as a Dublin poster pointed out its rarely people from D4 who speak with it. there used to be some really nice south Dublin accents think Cathal o shannon. these seem to be dying out a bit though in favor of the put on nasal whine that is doing the round nowadays.

    again as others have said this put on abomination also has a cork version a carlow version a galway version etc. the problem is i think that it actually seems to be slowly replacing a lot of the existing south Dublin accents even the ross o carroll kelly one which i quite like because its actually unpretentious in its pretentiousness. it thinks its posh but is so thick as to be the dublin equivalent of jackie healy rae's accent.


  • #84
    ibstar
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    It's the vocal fry epidemic. It's spreading like wildfire among the starbucks hipster generation as well as teenagers.


  • #85
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    Its funny about boards, I don't know what people expect is some 18 year old teenager suppose to be self-reflective and say excuse me for talking like my peers and for my somewhat privileged back ground, they should stop talking because they annoy people?

    Its not fake it subset of a typical Southside accent, I always associate it with spin fm which one of my daughter's use to listen to as a teen unless you are an actor its hard to fake an accent long term.


  • #86
    RichardCeann
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    Its funny about boards, I don't know what people expect is some 18 year old teenager suppose to be self-reflective and say excuse me for talking like my peers and for my somewhat privileged back ground, they should stop talking because they annoy people?

    Its not fake it subset of a typical Southside accent, I always associate it with spin fm which one of my daughter's use to listen to as a teen unless you are an actor its hard to fake an accent long term.

    Irish society is very Americanised, some splices of it more so than others and this is reflected in some of the accents here. But they live in fuuuuucking Ireland, not the 51st state or Orange County. The American-Irish accent is somewhat put on and over exaggerated.


  • #87
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    RichardCeann wrote: »
    Irish society is very Americanised, some splices of it more so than others and this is reflected in some of the accents here. But they live in fuuuuucking Ireland, not the 51st state or Orange County. The American-Irish accent is somewhat put on and over exaggerated.

    Maybe I know two teenagers who talk like that, but I also know a teenager who is born and bread in Blackrock and does not have the accent.


  • #88
    Saipanne
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    Fox_In_Socks wrote: »
    Get used to it because all accents are homogenising.

    LOL


  • #89
    Neyite
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    RichardCeann wrote: »
    Irish society is very Americanised, some splices of it more so than others and this is reflected in some of the accents here. But they live in fuuuuucking Ireland, not the 51st state or Orange County. The American-Irish accent is somewhat put on and over exaggerated.

    I've a cousin who visited Boston for three weeks in the fifties, came home with a yank drawl and still has it, in the wilds of the west of Ireland. I crack up when she offers me a Caww-fee rather than a Coffee, and regales me with stories of her stint in Bawwwstin. :D


  • #90
    Speedsie
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    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    And irelands accents arent homogenising that much, I don't hear much American influence on the inner city, north side, tallaght accents in Dublin nor in very many regional accents. Nor is fake American a D4 accent. It does exist. Jedward has it ( where are they from?) but it isn't that common.

    Jedward grew up in Lucan, but their father was from England. Their mother is from a family that has been in the Lucan/Newcastle area for generations.


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  • #91
    BBMcQ
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    You shouldn't be going around wearing the Leinster jersey and skinny jeans! What must your parents think?? :eek:

    The best place to watch Leinster games without the snobs is actually at the game. Little tip from a real Leinster fan.


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