D4 accent

Lia_lia

I am in a train and there are a group of teenagers with that very annoying "D4" accent. Fake American sounding. Does this accent annoy other people? I don't know why but I can't stand it.

Then again I'm from Kerry and I'm sure the rest of the country can't stand the Kerry accent...

The Backwards Man

Are you sure they are D4? My accent gets mistaken for a D4 all the time.

Flippyfloppy

Funny, the biggest D4 head i ever knew hailed from Kerry!

tayto lover

A Kerry accent is a real accent.
These other wannabes have fake accents. Pathetic really.

One eyed Jack

A steady diet of American kids tv in childhood will do that. I often encounter children with either a heavy drawl in their accent, or that migraine inducing inflection. It's not so much D4 any more but a nationwide phenomenon.

Fox_In_Socks

Get used to it because all accents are homogenising.

Lia_lia

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

Funny, the biggest D4 head i ever knew hailed from Kerry!

My cousin (from Kerry) started going to college in Maynooth a few years ago...met her in Dublin a few months after she started and she had a feckin D4 accent! Cringe.

kneemos

Fox_In_Socks wrote: »

Get used to it because all accents are homogenising.

Really!?

Grab All Association

So the children are faking American accents? Since the late 80s their mothers/fathers/Grandparents spoke with Brit accents. D4 is the home of the West Brits.

Fox_In_Socks

kneemos wrote: »

Really!?

Loike, yeah. Absolutely.

John_Rambo

Lia_lia wrote: »

I am in a train and there are a group of teenagers with that very annoying "D4" accent. Fake American sounding. Does this accent annoy other people? I don't know why but I can't stand it

People from Dublin 4 don't have American accents. They have a South Dublin accent (Bob Geldof).

Are you sure these teenagers with American accents were not from America?

Lia_lia

They are definitely not American, no.

Sham Squire

When I was growing up (80's and 90's) the accent you refer to was known as a Foxrock Accent. It seems that in recent years (just around Ross O Carroll Kellys time) it became D4. I grew up in D4. There is no such accent in D4. The accent people are referring to is most commonly heard in Blackrock (Co. Dublin) Dalkey (Co. Dublin) and parts of the Northside (Castleknock and Sutton for example). It'd be nice if D4 could get it's actual honest reputation back. Any of the accents you hear around there that sound like a "D4 accent" are invariably not local. Ringsend, Irishtown, Baggot street, South Lotts and most of Sandymount just has normal people in it. It has it's own accent but it's not like the one reffered to as D4 (or, more correctly, as DORT(DART) speak).

John_Rambo

Lia_lia wrote: »

They are definitely not American, no.

Where were they from?

Sham Squire

Chris___ wrote: »

So the children are faking American accents? Since the late 80s their mothers/fathers/Grandparents spoke with Brit accents. D4 is the home of the West Brits.

Such ignorance.

Aidric

It might be grating but it beats a scummy inner city accent any day.

The Backwards Man

Accents can be deceiving alright, I heard two Labradorians speaking the other day, you'd swear they from The Rosses.

Smartguy

At least a d4 accent can be understood and is clear, there are plenty of authentic irish accents that sound like complete gibberish.

kneemos

Always intrigued how even towns and cities can maintain various accents according to location.

The Backwards Man

kneemos wrote: »

Always intrigued how even towns and cities can maintain various accents according to location.

Townlands even. I could pinpoint where someone lives around here to within a mile or two by their accent. Unless they are German. Then it's just Germany somewhere.

Lia_lia

John_Rambo wrote: »

Where were they from?

Dublin I am guessing, seeing as they are on the Dublin train!

Come one, the D4 accent young people have today does sound a bit American at times. At least I think it does anyway.

Smartguy wrote: »

At least a d4 accent can be understood and is clear, there are plenty of authentic irish accents that sound like complete gibberish.

This is true. I'm from Kerry and can't understand the old fellas out in the country! I don't have a Kerry accent at all. No one can tell where I'm from Would be nice to have an accent I think. A real one.

The Moldy Gowl

What about when they cross the canal into D2?

John_Rambo

Lia_lia wrote: »

Dublin I am guessing, seeing as they are on the Dublin train!

Ah, was this the Dublin to Dublin train that stops only in Dublin? So you’re confusing the American TV accent that a lot of kids have all over the country with a regional Dublin accent? There’s a far cry between the two. In my experience the wealthier kids in Dublin are very active, they play rugby, cricket, football, tennis, hockey, they sail, horseride etc… They aren’t the ones plonked in front of the TV picking up accents from Nickelodeon. So, I’d imagine the kids on the train were just normal teenagers that have watched too much TV.

Lia_lia

^ When did I say they got an American accent from watching TV and not being active? I just think the D4 accent in general sounds like it has a bit of an American twang to it.

John_Rambo

Chris___ wrote: »

So the children are faking American accents? Since the late 80s their mothers/fathers/Grandparents spoke with Brit accents. D4 is the home of the West Brits.

And THAT'S THAT! Spoken like a true British partisan.

John_Rambo

Lia_lia wrote: »

^ When did I say they got an American accent from watching TV and not being active? I just think the D4 accent in general sounds like it has a bit of an American twang to it.

Nope.

"Roight, Dort to town?, Point of Horp, Points of Ken... Castlerock UBER Alles, Roysh?" (thanks Ross)

What part of America has this accent?

Taco Chips

I think it's a lazy insult. I have a decently thick Limerick accent and was told I sound like a D4 by a rude person a while ago

John_Rambo

Taco Chips wrote: »

I think it's a lazy insult. I have a decently thick Limerick accent and was told I sound like a D4 by a rude person a while ago

You shouldn't be going around wearing the Leinster jersey and skinny jeans! What must your parents think?? :eek:

Sam Kade

Smartguy wrote: »

At least a d4 accent can be understood and is clear, there are plenty of authentic irish accents that sound like complete gibberish.

Clear, there's a laugh. If you want to be clear put on a posh English accent not the D4 rubbish

Sam Kade

Lia_lia wrote: »

^ When did I say they got an American accent from watching TV and not being active? I just think the D4 accent in general sounds like it has a bit of an American twang to it.

How exactly does a D4 accent sound like an American accent, unless you are referring to fake accents some Americans use.

Lia_lia

Ah well. I think it sounds a bit American anyway.

chrissb8

It is an accent I hate with a passion up there with the inner city scumbag accent. The o's go on for ever e.g I'd say "Damo" and that grating accent would make it sound like "Damoo". Of course I don't go around hating on people for having that accent but get 10 of them together drinking and being loud and I might start going insane.

Flippyfloppy

John_Rambo wrote: »

Nope.

"Roight, Dort to town?, Point of Horp, Points of Ken... Castlerock UBER Alles, Roysh?" (thanks Ross)

What part of America has this accent?

Obviously it's the inflection used....gettung high pitched at the end of the sentence loike?

fonecrusher1

One eyed Jack wrote: »

A steady diet of American kids tv in childhood will do that. I often encounter children with either a heavy drawl in their accent, or that migraine inducing inflection. It's not so much D4 any more but a nationwide phenomenon.

This ^

Its stomach churning. Its not just children. Were I work I hear these strange half American accents often finishing with this sort of California-esque inflection. Where the feck did this shyte come from????

You know who you are. This isn't an anti-American thing. I just can't handle this phoney American accent business.

Sad bunch.

Stheno

I can't understand a Derry accent, I swear they speak on fast forward

Sonderkommando

Sport the accent of the land, there is know shame in sounding where you are from:)

There was a lass in finance where I work who was sent over to the company HQ in the USA for a few weeks on business, who came back with the worst, hybrid accent I have ever heard. It was cringeworthy when she spoke.

Day Lewin

I read some article somewhere a few years ago, quite serious: the author alleged that the said accent or more correctly, inflection, could be traced to "Friends"

-specifically, that habit of finishing every sentence on an upwards inflection so that they all sound like a question! He claimed that this was never heard commonly in these islands before "Friends"

To which I would add: saying things like
"So - yeah. No. "

and that awful "O" - saying Rain-debate for Roundabout, or Maybile Fayne for Mobile Phone- ugh, (heave)

I think it is an attempt at snobbery, it is specially pervasive among those who set great store by expensive privately-paid education. Keeping up with the Jownses.

Yes, I'm a plain-speaking Dublin snob in my own right.

PS I wish I could remember where I read that article or who it was by, but I can't.

Oneiric 3

Fox_In_Socks wrote: »

Get used to it because all accents are homogenising.

Into what? A D4?

Horrible accent. Fake, ostentatious and ugly on the ear. I can't take anyone seriously who uses it (of which a high percentage seem to be female)

I think the reason it is becoming so popular is that it is the standard accent of RTE and its presenters - and by the Irish media in general. It's as almost as if they are promoting it as the accent of the pseudo-sophisticated. Give me a real, hardcore Dub accent any day.

mada999

Lia_lia wrote: »

Ah well. I think it sounds a bit American anyway.

yeah I hear alot of Americannny twang going around Ireland these days... especially people being interviewed on the radio (especially bloggers etc) and adding in the "ummm i guess, bla bla blaa", "ummmm like".. And whats with people calling their mam, mom

I also agree with the poster who said accents are homogenising.

John_Rambo

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

Obviously it's the inflection used....gettung high pitched at the end of the sentence loike?

katemarch wrote: »

specifically, that habit of finishing every sentence on an upwards inflection so that they all sound like a question

Australian? (upward inflection on the "ian" bit

Oneiric 3

katemarch wrote: »

-specifically, that habit of finishing every sentence on an upwards inflection so that they all sound like a question! He claimed that this was never heard commonly in these islands before "Friends"

This form of speech actually has a term. 'Uptalking'. It is a manner of speech that is not well received by anyone of note.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/caveman-logic/201010/the-uptalk-epidemic

mailforkev

There's the odd phenomena of the female college students from down the country who come to Trinity or UCD for first year and go home at Christmas sounding like they grew up in Killiney. It's generally always girls for some reason.

I've a mate with a girlfriend (mid 30s) who is from a rural town in south east Ireland but sounds like she was in that ****e MTV show The Hills. Unless she reverts to type whenever she visits her hometown she must get an awful slagging.

I spent my childhood and school years in Blackrock and Foxrock so am well used to the social climber faux accent.

RichardCeann

Not a big fan of the Americanised accent certain young Dubs speak with, but at least it's understandable. Check out theselads from Cork. I'm normally well able to understand British/Irish accents, but haven't a breeze what they are saying at times.

knird evol

John_Rambo wrote: »

Australian? (upward inflection on the "ian" bit

The high rising terminal or terminal interrogative is a feature of the American and Australian accent. Can be heard in a certain part of Dublin also. That begins in S. And ends in outhside.

Sam Kade

RichardCeann wrote: »

Not a big fan of the Americanised accent certain young Dubs speak with, but at least it's understandable. Check out theselads from Cork. I'm normally well able to understand British/Irish accents, but haven't a breeze what they are saying at times.

Hey Dicksie it's Killgarvan and they are Kerrymen

John_Rambo

knird evol wrote: »

The high rising terminal or terminal interrogative is a feature of the American and Australian accent. Can be heard in a certain part of Dublin all over Ireland also. That begins in S. And ends in outhside.

I fixed up your post there to represent what's being said throughout the thread! "like, OMG... How Cork are you like"

Lia_lia

RichardCeann wrote: »

Not a big fan of the Americanised accent certain young Dubs speak with, but at least it's understandable. Check out theselads from Cork. I'm normally well able to understand British/Irish accents, but haven't a breeze what they are saying at times.

Always laugh at that video! That is not too far from where I grew up and I still can barely understand them.

Sam Kade

Lia_lia wrote: »

Always laugh at that video! That is not too far from where I grew up and I still can barely understand them.

I aways laugh at Kerry people who pretend not to be able to understand their own.

Lia_lia

Sam Kade wrote: »

I aways laugh at Kerry people who pretend not to be able to understand their own.

I'm from Killarney town, we don't really speak like that.

John_Rambo

Sam Kade wrote: »

I aways laugh at Kerry people who pretend not to be able to understand their own.

Betya yer man's hat's from America? or AustraiLIA? :pac:

silverharp

Lia_lia wrote: »

I'm from Killarney town, we don't really speak like that.

My relatives escaped were brought up about 10 miles inland from cahirsiveen and the old lads always spoke like that , couldnt understand a word