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D4 accent

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Im from the inner city,born and bred,and obviously speak with an inner city accent.Therefore, I MUST be a scummy,lazy miscreant.And there was me in my ignorance thinking that I was a normal Joe Soap.Your post makes me see the value in conversing with my betters,and realising my place in the world.Thanks for that..God where are my manners,what i meant to say was nice one bud.
    Could I be so bold as to ask where you hail from yourself friend?
    If you're so law-abiding, why did you choose a well known cartoon criminal for your avatar? Explain that one huh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Seems to be particular with girls, my cousins (female) are from Meath, Portmarnock, Kilkenny - and they all speak with the exact same D4 twang.

    Funny thing is their brothers speak with the respective local accents ... funny that.


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    the_monkey wrote: »
    Seems to be particular with girls, my cousins (female) are from Meath, Portmarnock, Kilkenny - and they all speak with the exact same D4 twang.

    Funny thing is their brothers speak with the respective local accents ... funny that.

    Males engage in a different carry on they try to ditch/naturalise their middle class accents as if they are ashamed of it start talking about the lads ect. Thats equally as daft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    I knew a girl whos sister spent a couple of years in Australia and came back with a bit of an Aussie accent.. and guess what, she started to pick up the Aussie accent from her sister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Smartguy wrote: »
    At least a d4 accent can be understood and is clear, there are plenty of authentic irish accents that sound like complete gibberish.

    Not true.

    I found myself some years ago conversing with a lad on a balcony overlooking the Liffey in the docklands area. We were discussing the merits of the view. He spoke with the accent being being discussed in this thread (though I share doubt about the appropriateness of "D4" as a label). It is not really an accent anyway, more an affectation.
    He directed my attention to something in the streets below that was "in the ride". I was stumped as to what he meant. "Ride?", I thought feeling awkward and embarrassed, "is he talking about a horse? somebody riding a motorbike? somebody engaging in an al fresco sex act". Three "what?"s and three "in the ride"s later and the penny dropped - he is saying "in the ROAD".

    He had completely mangled the vowel sound to the point where road became ride. Just as well there is no such thing as a rain debate!

    Our pals in Kilgarvan are nigh on impossible to understand but that is not down to accent. Otherwise the barman would also be incomprehensible. That is just indistinct speech and drunken mumblings.

    That vast majority of south Dublin residents are pleasant to listen to. There is a great spectrum of accents there. Also shame on those doing down the glorious, time-honoured, and unaffected inner city Dublin accent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Eponymous


    The best place to watch Leinster games without the snobs is actually at the game. Little tip from a real Leinster fan.
    The terrace, specifically!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TomBtheGoat


    Neyite wrote: »
    I've a cousin who visited Boston for three weeks in the fifties, came home with a yank drawl and still has it, in the wilds of the west of Ireland. I crack up when she offers me a Caww-fee rather than a Coffee, and regales me with stories of her stint in Bawwwstin. :D

    Reminds me of my cousin who spent six weeks in London and came back a cockney Londoner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Reiver


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    I am in a train and there are a group of teenagers with that very annoying "D4" accent. Fake American sounding. Does this accent annoy other people? I don't know why but I can't stand it.

    Then again I'm from Kerry and I'm sure the rest of the country can't stand the Kerry accent...

    Bollocks.

    People love our accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Males engage in a different carry on they try to ditch/naturalise their middle class accents as if they are ashamed of it start talking about the lads ect. Thats equally as daft.
    You contradicting yourself there, you said accents evolve but in the above statement you admit they don't ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    topper75 wrote: »
    Not true.

    I found myself some years ago conversing with a lad on a balcony overlooking the Liffey in the docklands area. We were discussing the merits of the view. He spoke with the accent being being discussed in this thread (though I share doubt about the appropriateness of "D4" as a label). It is not really an accent anyway, more an affectation.
    He directed my attention to something in the streets below that was "in the ride". I was stumped as to what he meant. "Ride?", I thought feeling awkward and embarrassed, "is he talking about a horse? somebody riding a motorbike? somebody engaging in an al fresco sex act". Three "what?"s and three "in the ride"s later and the penny dropped - he is saying "in the ROAD".

    He had completely mangled the vowel sound to the point where road became ride. Just as well there is no such thing as a rain debate!

    Our pals in Kilgarvan are nigh on impossible to understand but that is not down to accent. Otherwise the barman would also be incomprehensible. That is just indistinct speech and drunken mumblings.

    That vast majority of south Dublin residents are pleasant to listen to. There is a great spectrum of accents there. Also shame on those doing down the glorious, time-honoured, and unaffected inner city Dublin accent.
    Americans also have trouble understanding them, so if they go to the trouble of putting on an accent to be more clear they should stay away from the d4 one.


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    Sam Kade wrote: »
    You contradicting yourself there, you said accents evolve but in the above statement you admit they don't ;)

    Its a subset of an accent to be more correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    When I was growing up (80's and 90's) the accent you refer to was known as a Foxrock Accent. It seems that in recent years (just around Ross O Carroll Kellys time) it became D4. I grew up in D4. There is no such accent in D4. The accent people are referring to is most commonly heard in Blackrock (Co. Dublin) Dalkey (Co. Dublin) and parts of the Northside (Castleknock and Sutton for example). It'd be nice if D4 could get it's actual honest reputation back. Any of the accents you hear around there that sound like a "D4 accent" are invariably not local. Ringsend, Irishtown, Baggot street, South Lotts and most of Sandymount just has normal people in it. It has it's own accent but it's not like the one reffered to as D4 (or, more correctly, as DORT(DART) speak).

    Sorry but that's absolute rubbish. I lived and worked in and around D4 and D4 land (UCD) for years. The DORT accent is very much local.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    An interesting point the media is a good reflection of where things are at culturally.

    The bank of Ireland ad for mortgages, the one with the Steve and Rachel characters, the character of Steve has been give a D4 type accent because it has come to be associated( for males ) with being an idiot and possible a bit thick, however the character on the couch has been give a light Dublin accent which has come to be associated with being an all-rounder and something that will appeal to everybody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭MysticalRain


    I love how these threads about the D4 accent always pan out...

    People living in a Dublin speaking with a ridiculously funny accent...
    ...blame culchies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It is a bit ridiculous though when you hear muppet women from the likes of Thurles catching on to the accent after 2 weeks in UCD. It's all about fitting in with the peer group, it's just not fashionable to be speaking in bog. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    They sound like men


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    You think that's bad, Christ the j1 students fobs (fresh off the boat) used to have a fully fledged American accent within two weeks.
    They would come into the bar speaking to Irish people living in the states for donkeys years who while living with and working with never picked up the accent.... Yet here these kids are picking it right up in two weeks.
    Amazing or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    If you're so law-abiding, why did you choose a well known cartoon criminal for your avatar? Explain that one huh?

    I envy his prison sculpted body,and hair that just can't be tamed.Totally opposite to myself :o
    I'm just a very well endowed,very shady looking nerd.A number cruncher,if you will.


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