Liverpool FC News/Gossip/Rumours Summer '15

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Galling because we could have got 14m for him now it looks like we're getting nothing? Not that hard to wrap your head around is it?

So much for YNWA then eh? In your view as soon as a player is no longer required not only should their contract no longer be honoured but they should allow themselves to be traded like a piece of meat against their will and against their own commercial interest.

Do you think this is the etos of LFC? YNWA unless we want to force you to join a club you don't want to move to.

Embarrassing.

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

So much for YNWA then eh? In your view as soon as a player is no longer required not only should their contract no longer be honoured but they should allow themselves to be traded like a piece of meat against their will and against their own commercial interest.

Do you think this is the etos of LFC? YNWA unless we want to force you to join a club you don't want to move to.

Embarrassing.

I think the point he's trying to make is if we're not going to have Borini at the club this season due to being on loan again, it's galling that we didn't end up getting a 14m fee for him last season. Mountain/molehill

Knex. wrote: »

So much fuss and drama being made out of precisely **** all.

WORST FANS! NEVER OUR YEAR!

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

So much for YNWA then eh? In your view as soon as a player is no longer required not only should their contract no longer be honoured but they should allow themselves to be traded like a piece of meat against their will and against their own commercial interest.

Do you think this is the etos of LFC? YNWA unless we want to force you to join a club you don't want to move to.

Embarrassing.

What are you blatthering on about?

LFC(nor any other football club) doesn't exist to indulge players who neither have the talent or the inclination to play football in an effective manner befitting the club.

This ain't a dosshouse brother, we're striving to regain our status as one of the finest football clubs in the world. As has been proven, most recently, with Suarez, the club will stand by a player even in the most serious of circumstances if the player has the mentality or talent to give back.

Anyone remember the reserve boys club from the mid 90s? Mark Wright and a few other big signings, who were failing to do well at the club being forced to play with the reserves.
Good times.


The 1993/94 season was the last of Souness' reign and almost became Wright's last campaign as well. Wright had been absent through injury since March 1994 and in pre-season 1994/95, Roy Evans criticised his poor form and attitude publicly. The double purchase of centre-halves Phil Babb and John Scales hardly increased Wright's chances. Wright returned in March 1995 having made five appearances for the reserves since the end of January. He had been absent from the first team for a whole year and had clearly learnt his lesson as he started at the beginning of the 1995/96 season, rejuvenated.

Taken from http://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/447

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

What are you blatthering on about?

LFC(nor any other football club) doesn't exist to indulge players who neither have the talent or the inclination to play football in an effective manner befitting the club.

This ain't a dosshouse brother.

What are you blathering on about brother? If Borini doesn't have any talent why did LFC buy him and give him a contract? I don't think anyone has ever accused Borini of dossing or not working hard.

It's OK that he's no longer part of the managers plans but that doesn't mean his contract can just be torn up or he can be forced to accept a move he doesn't want.

K-9 wrote: »

Shankly would have loved Borini and Balotelli. YNWA.

Shankly wouldn't have signed either of them but if he had he'd honour their contracts.

You reap what you sow. Treat players poorly by isolating them and guess what? If a transfer doesn't suit them they won't agree to it and they're dead right. Would you allow your employer to sell you to another employer you didn't want to go to?

If either player is in breach of their contract by not training, not being available to play (including for the reserves or U21's) or they are breaking club discipline then by all means throw the book at them, fine then etc but other than that the club needs to accept they made a mistake signing these guys, negotiate a termination of their contracts and let then go otherwise they're just going to hang around and collect the wages they're entitled to for the remainder of their contracts and then leave on a free anyway.

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Shankly wouldn't have signed either of them but if he had he'd honour their contracts.

You reap what you sow. Treat players poorly by isolating them and guess what? If a transfer doesn't suit them they won't agree to it and they're dead right. Would you allow your employer to sell you to another employer you didn't want to go to?

If either player is in breach of their contract by not training, not being available to play (including for the reserves or U21's) or they are breaking club discipline then by all means throw the book at them, fine then etc but other than that the club needs to accept they made a mistake signing these guys, negotiate a termination of their contracts and let then go otherwise they're just going to hang around and collect the wages they're entitled to for the remainder of their contracts and then leave on a free anyway.

Shankly ignored players who were injured and wouldn't talk to them or deal with until they were fit enough to be part of his plans. If the internet was around then, he'd be accused of throwing them under the bus and "YNWA indeed" or that they were being treated like pieces of meat.

Nobody is saying that Borini's contract should be torn up or that a gun should be put to his head to sign for someone else. It's just wishful thinking that he will just please leave. We could have got fourteen million for him last year, almost doubling what we paid for him. His prerogative of course to stay and pick up his high wages.

I have no issue with players wasting their careers to see out their contracts which they negotiated with us. Completely fair and legal. I also have no issue with fans being annoyed with the same players.

If i was a professional footballer I would prefer to be playing football regularly for a manager who actually wanted me, but maybe I'm naive.

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Not what I was thinking about but are you denying it happens?




I'm not emotional about it...I already said I hope he moves on but the way you and others are going on you'd think the fella didn't have a contract. A contract the club gave him. I doubt he held a gun to anyones head for that contract although it's Mario so you never know.



How can you type with your head in the sand?



Outstanding. :rolleyes:

His contract is very incentivised, big success there obviously.

corwill wrote: »

At least they might attract a bid for a permanent transfer if they're playing, it almost worked with Borini.

Yeah, that's because he was playing at Sunderland, on loan. Not at Liverpool.

Alright lads, Liverpool/Bournemouth combined XI

Let's go.

YNWA Borini

You're not wanted anymore

Cartman78 wrote: »

Just to lighten the mood a bit (from the BBC website).....Former Liverpool winger Jimmy Carter, 49, has been inundated with goodwill messages on Twitter - aimed at his former US President namesake, 90, who has revealed he has cancer.

Yes, nothing like an auld cancer story to lighten the mood....:rolleyes:

Boards record for most ":rolleyes:" on one page?