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Spelling "his" as "he's" - what's going on?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


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    It takes me longer to work out what the person is saying. So it is working less efficiently than before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    It's on account of The Thick. I blame them funny Braaaane rays from smartphones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Isreal. If you're going to lecture me on the complexities of geo-political Middle Eastern politics, at least try and get the name right. Hippy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Some people haven't read many books/newspapers and I assume they spell like they pronounce words.

    Your/you're and their/there are extremely common.
    My favourite example is people miswriting "thought" as "taught", very much an Irish thing as you can hear the accent in your head as you read it :D


    The thing is that we are not allowed to correct people's mistakes and therefore new users will think Your is the correct way to spell You're, but that's another discussion.
    If I make an obvious mistake over and over again, please correct me. I want to improve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    ...
    *I saw a sign up yesterday saying 'Road Diesel: €1.28'
    I think that is reasonable communication. It distinguishes it from rebated diesel which is sold for use in agricultural vehicles that are not used on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    biko wrote: »
    Some people haven't read many books/newspapers and I assume they spell like they pronounce words.

    Your/you're and their/there are extremely common.
    My favourite example is people miswriting "thought" as "taught", very much an Irish thing.


    The thing is that we are not allowed to correct people's mistakes and therefore new users will think Your is the correct way to spell You're, but that's another discussion.
    If I make an obvious mistake over and over again, please correct me. I want to improve.

    I see the miswriting of "taught" as "thought" much more often!

    The "he's" thing is definitely an accent one. In social media it's annoying, but inconsequential. On professional documents, it's appalling!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,557 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    What annoys me is that social media is almost entirely text driven so users have to be able to read to start with. You'd think that with the more reading they're doing that users would eventually develop better language skills, especially with the amount number of people actively correcting spelling and grammar mistakes, but the opposite seems to be true.
    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


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    Ah piss off, anyone who uses text speak in a CV needs their head examined, as does anyone defending them. It's just annoying on FB or in texts but I cn stil understnd wen sum1 tlks lyk dis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


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    Allowing oneself to be pulled around by the nose by thick people is the cause of most of the trouble in today's world. I'll pass, thank you. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


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    Degeneration rather than evolution.

    If I had a car with no doors, windows, bonnet or boot lid, it still functions as a car but it looks like a piece of sh*t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,970 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    Anyone else notice an increase in the number of people spelling the word 'his' as "he's" on social media?

    Since then I've noticed people on radio pronouncing 'his' as 'he's'.

    It's the new "Your, You're" -

    I've only noticed it with Irish people on "social media" and it's largely a "cluchie" accent in written form.

    BTW, this has nothing to do with language evolving as another poster said. It's simply bad English. "His" and "he's" are completely different items.

    An example of evolving language would be "He is" and "He's". "He's" in common usage is a relatively new construct. 150 years ago, the majority of speakers and writers would not have used such abbreviation and simply have said/written "he is", "they are", or "I am" and opposed to "he's", "they're" or "I'm".

    But "his" and "he's" is just wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I haven't noticed this yet, but there is something which was pointed out to me that I now notice all the time:

    Local car dealerships offer every new car with '1 years free road tax'.. should in fact be '1 year free road tax'.

    Im not sure which is right or which is wrong, but Im used to '1 years...'


    It should be motor tax, but that is a whole other discussion.
    Cyclists, am I right?:D

    /runs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    What annoys me is that social media is almost entirely text driven so users have to be able to read to start with. You'd think that with the more reading they're doing that users would eventually develop better language skills, especially with the amount of people actively correcting spelling and grammar mistakes, but the opposite seems to be true.

    I think Social Media is having the opposite effect to be honest. When I was growing up there was no such thing as the internet, let alone social media. I read books which would have been edited by someone who had a grasp of the English language. I'm sure even my comics had been given the once-over by someone. When I got older I read newspapers and magazines. In school we sat through grammar classes and were taught the difference between there and their, your and you're.

    Nowadays people do a lot of their reading from online sources such as Boards and Facebook. Because there is nobody to edit these online posts, people are picking up these grammar errors by osmosis and running with them. "Should of" is one that I started noticing a few years ago and it seems to have spread like wildfire. "He's" is a newer one and it's going to go the same way.

    In the education system there does not seem to be any price to pay for poor grammar any more. There's no incentive for people to bother spelling words properly or to do their best to write sentences that make sense. I'm pretty sure I heard that DCU had had to start up a grammar class for its students because what they were writing was so poor. That to me is pretty shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    People writing 'worse' when they mean 'worst' is really annoying. And not an example of a language 'evolving' whatsoever because I don't initially know what the person means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭setanta1984


    The one that really gets me is "should of", "would of" etc.

    Makes my stomach turn every time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭b318isp


    The one that really gets me is "should of", "would of" etc.

    Makes my stomach turn every time.

    This, multiplied by a million.

    Where most digressions are errors in spelling or assembly of a word or words, this is not even the right word.

    have/of - while there may be some phonetic similarity, it's primary school level education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


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    An open-wheel racing machine with one seat, the weight of a whippet and a power-to-weight ratio of over a thousand horsepower per ton from an engine that revs to 20,000 RPM and is tuned to a state of tenseness just shy of rupture has about as much to do with a roadgoing "car" as a fish has to do with a privet hedge. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    People writing 'worse' when they mean 'worst' is really annoying. And not an example of a language 'evolving' whatsoever because I don't initially know what the person means.

    People who write 'worser' are the worst.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    hardCopy wrote: »
    People who write 'worser' are the worst.

    The worst is not, so long as we can say, "This is the worst"! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    They made an excellent documentary that predicts where this decline in society will lead us to. I suggest you check it out if you can.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/?ref_=nv_sr_1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


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    Point well and truly missed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I've only noticed it with Irish people on "social media" and it's largely a "cluchie" accent in written form.

    BTW, this has nothing to do with language evolving as another poster said. It's simply bad English. "His" and "he's" are completely different items.

    An example of evolving language would be "He is" and "He's". "He's" in common usage is a relatively new construct. 150 years ago, the majority of speakers and writers would not have used such abbreviation and simply have said/written "he is", "they are", or "I am" and opposed to "he's", "they're" or "I'm".

    But "his" and "he's" is just wrong.

    Culchie me hole. I didn't learn much at school, and many of my peers likewise, but we learned how to fcuking spell.

    Laziness and ignorance, that's your causes of grammar going down the Suwannee.

    And yeah, that's spelled correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    It's more an indication that you lack a valuable skill required in todays world.
    [...]

    More of an indication that, for whatever reason, some people lack valuable grammer and spelling skills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I've only noticed it with Irish people on "social media" and it's largely a "cluchie" accent in written form...

    I have a "culchie" accent. In fact I sound exactly like Pat Shortt doing his "Maurice Hickey" character. It probably comes across in the way I spell right enough. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


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    Who is the pedant now?


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