Spelling "his" as "he's" - what's going on?

zoobizoo

Anyone else notice an increase in the number of people spelling the word 'his' as "he's" on social media?

Since then I've noticed people on radio pronouncing 'his' as 'he's'.

It's the new "Your, You're" -

Harry Palmr

The web is raisin a generation who cannot spell.

Captain Flaps

Your right, its just another dilution of our language, their getting worse and worse!

Thats one of the worse examples I've seen to be fare though

donegaLroad

zoobizoo wrote: »

Anyone else notice an increase in the number of people spelling the word 'his' as "he's" on social media?

Since then I've noticed people on radio pronouncing 'his' as 'he's'.

It's the new "Your, You're" -

I haven't noticed this yet, but there is something which was pointed out to me that I now notice all the time:

Local car dealerships offer every new car with '1 years free road tax'.. should in fact be '1 year free road tax'.

Im not sure which is right or which is wrong, but Im used to '1 years...'

BattleCorp

You should see some of the job application forms that I have to sort through. I seriously question the standard of education at times.

Believe it or not but I've seen a cv written in text speak.

seamus

It's to do with accents.

Listen to some people pronounce "his" and it sounds more like "he's". Then when they go to write it, they write what they hear in their head.

murpho999

What I don't get is that along with the "your" and "you're" mix up is that people can reverse it and say- "Here's you're jacket". Mind boggles.

Harry Palmr

donegaLroad wrote: »

I haven't noticed this yet, but there is something which was pointed out to me that I now notice all the time:

Local car dealerships offer every new car with '1 years free road tax'.. should in fact be '1 year free road tax'.

Im not sure which is right or which is wrong, but Im used to '1 years...'

I'd go with One Years Road Tax for Free.

Paulownia

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The web is raisin a generation who cannot spell.

It is now respectable not to be able to spell, I have been admonished at work for pulling people up for poor spelling, ''he may have spelling difficulties'' you know, that sort of thing. It drives me mad!
we even get CV's in text speak in my work!
Poor illegible handwriting is also deemed to be above criticism.

murpho999

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'd go with One Years Road Tax for Free.

I would go with Motor Tax as there is no such thing as Road Tax in Ireland anymore.

Lemsiper

This has been going on for years. I think its especially prevalent in sporting commentary on Irish networks.

Harry Palmr

murpho999 wrote: »

I would go with Motor Tax as there is no such thing as Road Tax in Ireland anymore.

But but but...! :mad: I think most people still think road tax. Old habits die hard there.

donegaLroad

murpho999 wrote: »

I would go with Motor Tax as there is no such thing as Road Tax in Ireland anymore.

'1 years free motor tax' ?



*I saw a sign up yesterday saying 'Road Diesel: €1.28'

Badly Drunk Boy

I've always been really good at spelling and grammar but lately, I've had to take an extra second to confirm in my head that I'm right about certain things.


YOU INTERNET THICKOS ARE TRYING TO CONTAMINATE MY MIND!!

Permabear

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whiskeyman

Wierd...

whisky_galore

Heard a news report on radio describing conditions as 'Dickinson' as opposed to 'Dickensian'.

zeffabelli

It's touch screen.

Badly Drunk Boy

Harry Palmr wrote: »

But but but...! :mad: I think most people still think road tax. Old habits die hard there.

Well let these people die with the road tax! They probably only got their driving licences in the amnesty in the 1979 so can't drive properly. :pac:

whisky_galore

Harry Palmr wrote: »

But but but...! :mad: I think most people still think road tax. Old habits die hard there.

There was no 'road tax' before 'motors'.

...unless you count turnpikes...

El Weirdo

People who mix up "been" and "being" really fucking annoy me.

Captain Flaps

'They don't pay road tax' is still something I hear from drivers regarding cyclists a fair bit, and was said to me because I had the audacity to operate a non motorised vehicle on a main road.

Oh actually, one that really grinds my gears is 'could of' and 'should of' instead of 'could have' and 'should have'.

Trent Houseboat

"Year's" is correct as it's possessive. Today's attendance. This week's weather.

whisky_galore

There, their and they're...it's not rocket science.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Somtimes it's a case of the spellchecker ****ing about and automatically changing it. Its done it to me a few times and its getting to the point where I can't be arsed going back to changing it.

anonanymore

Loosing it !!!!!!!!!!

Conall Cernach

What annoys me is that social media is almost entirely text driven so users have to be able to read to start with. You'd think that with the more reading they're doing that users would eventually develop better language skills, especially with the amount of people actively correcting spelling and grammar mistakes, but the opposite seems to be true.

draiochtanois

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donegaLroad

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It was Canadian visitors that thought it was grammatically incorrect, and that it should have been '1 year..'

but now that I think of it, we say '1 day's notice..' which is grammatically correct.... (as pointed out in #23)

murpho999

draiochtanois wrote: »

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That is not evolution it's just bad grammar.

As someone said it's the difference between knowing your sh1t and knowing you're sh1t!

Permabear

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zoobizoo

draiochtanois wrote: »

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It takes me longer to work out what the person is saying. So it is working less efficiently than before.

jimgoose

It's on account of The Thick. I blame them funny Braaaane rays from smartphones.

Boring username

Isreal. If you're going to lecture me on the complexities of geo-political Middle Eastern politics, at least try and get the name right. Hippy.

biko

Some people haven't read many books/newspapers and I assume they spell like they pronounce words.

Your/you're and their/there are extremely common.
My favourite example is people miswriting "thought" as "taught", very much an Irish thing as you can hear the accent in your head as you read it


The thing is that we are not allowed to correct people's mistakes and therefore new users will think Your is the correct way to spell You're, but that's another discussion.
If I make an obvious mistake over and over again, please correct me. I want to improve.

draiochtanois

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P. Breathnach

donegaLroad wrote: »

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*I saw a sign up yesterday saying 'Road Diesel: €1.28'

I think that is reasonable communication. It distinguishes it from rebated diesel which is sold for use in agricultural vehicles that are not used on the road.

Malari

biko wrote: »

Some people haven't read many books/newspapers and I assume they spell like they pronounce words.

Your/you're and their/there are extremely common.
My favourite example is people miswriting "thought" as "taught", very much an Irish thing.


The thing is that we are not allowed to correct people's mistakes and therefore new users will think Your is the correct way to spell You're, but that's another discussion.
If I make an obvious mistake over and over again, please correct me. I want to improve.

I see the miswriting of "taught" as "thought" much more often!

The "he's" thing is definitely an accent one. In social media it's annoying, but inconsequential. On professional documents, it's appalling!

Alun

Conall Cernach wrote: »

What annoys me is that social media is almost entirely text driven so users have to be able to read to start with. You'd think that with the more reading they're doing that users would eventually develop better language skills, especially with the amount number of people actively correcting spelling and grammar mistakes, but the opposite seems to be true.

FYP

Captain Flaps

draiochtanois wrote: »

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Ah piss off, anyone who uses text speak in a CV needs their head examined, as does anyone defending them. It's just annoying on FB or in texts but I cn stil understnd wen sum1 tlks lyk dis

jimgoose

draiochtanois wrote: »

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Allowing oneself to be pulled around by the nose by thick people is the cause of most of the trouble in today's world. I'll pass, thank you. :pac:

whisky_galore

draiochtanois wrote: »

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Degeneration rather than evolution.

If I had a car with no doors, windows, bonnet or boot lid, it still functions as a car but it looks like a piece of sh*t.

Tony EH

zoobizoo wrote: »

Anyone else notice an increase in the number of people spelling the word 'his' as "he's" on social media?

Since then I've noticed people on radio pronouncing 'his' as 'he's'.

It's the new "Your, You're" -

I've only noticed it with Irish people on "social media" and it's largely a "cluchie" accent in written form.

BTW, this has nothing to do with language evolving as another poster said. It's simply bad English. "His" and "he's" are completely different items.

An example of evolving language would be "He is" and "He's". "He's" in common usage is a relatively new construct. 150 years ago, the majority of speakers and writers would not have used such abbreviation and simply have said/written "he is", "they are", or "I am" and opposed to "he's", "they're" or "I'm".

But "his" and "he's" is just wrong.

paulbok

donegaLroad wrote: »

I haven't noticed this yet, but there is something which was pointed out to me that I now notice all the time:

Local car dealerships offer every new car with '1 years free road tax'.. should in fact be '1 year free road tax'.

Im not sure which is right or which is wrong, but Im used to '1 years...'

It should be motor tax, but that is a whole other discussion.
Cyclists, am I right?:D

/runs

Ursus Horribilis

Conall Cernach wrote: »

What annoys me is that social media is almost entirely text driven so users have to be able to read to start with. You'd think that with the more reading they're doing that users would eventually develop better language skills, especially with the amount of people actively correcting spelling and grammar mistakes, but the opposite seems to be true.

I think Social Media is having the opposite effect to be honest. When I was growing up there was no such thing as the internet, let alone social media. I read books which would have been edited by someone who had a grasp of the English language. I'm sure even my comics had been given the once-over by someone. When I got older I read newspapers and magazines. In school we sat through grammar classes and were taught the difference between there and their, your and you're.

Nowadays people do a lot of their reading from online sources such as Boards and Facebook. Because there is nobody to edit these online posts, people are picking up these grammar errors by osmosis and running with them. "Should of" is one that I started noticing a few years ago and it seems to have spread like wildfire. "He's" is a newer one and it's going to go the same way.

In the education system there does not seem to be any price to pay for poor grammar any more. There's no incentive for people to bother spelling words properly or to do their best to write sentences that make sense. I'm pretty sure I heard that DCU had had to start up a grammar class for its students because what they were writing was so poor. That to me is pretty shocking.

speedboatchase

People writing 'worse' when they mean 'worst' is really annoying. And not an example of a language 'evolving' whatsoever because I don't initially know what the person means.

draiochtanois

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setanta1984

The one that really gets me is "should of", "would of" etc.

Makes my stomach turn every time.

Permabear

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b318isp

setanta1984 wrote: »

The one that really gets me is "should of", "would of" etc.

Makes my stomach turn every time.

This, multiplied by a million.

Where most digressions are errors in spelling or assembly of a word or words, this is not even the right word.

have/of - while there may be some phonetic similarity, it's primary school level education.

jimgoose

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An open-wheel racing machine with one seat, the weight of a whippet and a power-to-weight ratio of over a thousand horsepower per ton from an engine that revs to 20,000 RPM and is tuned to a state of tenseness just shy of rupture has about as much to do with a roadgoing "car" as a fish has to do with a privet hedge.