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selectamatic wrote: »now without getting argumentative as thankfully the farming forum on boards isn't a place where these childish shenanigans thrive, I might put forward a theory. Farms in the west of Ireland are generally smaller than farms in other parts of Ireland meath kildare tip etc.. therefore smaller tractors have always been popular. With the result that many smaller classics stayed active longer in these farms than in other larger operations. A man could run a decent farm with just a massey 165, a ford 4000 or a davy brown 995 not a bother of this I'm sure. In the late 90's these smaller farmers started to upgrade to handy small 4x4 tractors however the smaller tractors were retained as their handiness makes them invaluable to small farms. At this stage there is no point in selling a roughish small 70's tractor thats been on a farm since nearly new as it's an appreciating asset. Ireland is slightly unique in this respect and I certainly wouldn't confine it to the "West" its all down to the farm, the land type and the farmer themselves, As said it's all down to the individuals fondness for machinery and mechanical skills as repairs will be needed but then they're not something that has to be plugged into a laptop so they are more accessible to a majority of people. I may be biased in my view we actually have 4 pre 1990 tractors but all earn their keep and all are appreciating in value so it's make absolutely no sense to get rid of them. Our most "battered" tractor is actually a 995 david brown that has the factory original 16speed crawler gearbox and its running like a trooper granted it's tinwork is due a bit of tlc however all lights are present all strength bearing structures are solid (rollframe etc.) and when you get it in the right conditions its a force to be reckoned with. To this day I have yet to see a 2wd 70hp tractor of any age out perform it on heavy wet soil conditions so it's future looks bright
Just my two cents worth anyways, if the tractors are present and there's jobs for them why would ya get rid of them.
Great post selectamatic. The 995/6 1210 etc are a good tractor. However the Zetor 6718 I would rate higher. Great traction and very frugal like the browns but with a superior cab and driving position.0 -
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kids put up a picture of the kittens on snapchat and we found the owner, they collected them there and never even said thanks
think the parents wanted rid
Ah no, they'll just be dumped elsewhere
I bet the kids were told the kittens went missing and they were thrown in a box at your lane. I can't abide people who are cruel to animals, you'd want to be an absolute heartless cnut to dump animals not able to fend for themselves. 0 -
CloughCasey1 wrote: »We have a 4255 TWD for all heavy work. Bales, muck spreading, mowing, topping any trailer work when I hire in a digger bringing home turf and fertilizer etc etc. Next is the 135 for spraying, tedding, shaking fert, any box work around the farm and any lighter and then we have the 35 with front loader. I'd be lost without it!! Loading and unloading round bales of straw and stacking 2 high in small tight west of ireland sheds and doesn't tare up the yard like a 4WD would plough the place doing same job. Unloaded an artic of straw last yr and the trucker was amazed by it. Use it for cleaning out the dung from straw shed and dung sted. Have scraper that attaches to front loader for scraping out the passage once a wk in winter. Have half a barrell filled with concrete at the back for counter weight. It flies in around the shed no bother. Power steering would help but tis good training! Only thing id like to add is for the old shear grab hoist that I put on back of 4255 for droping bales into ring feeder for a neighbour with horses. Could you put on a bale grab for stacking silage bales two high?
Also have see men make up a frame for using a normal bale lifter on the front loader and it seems to work grand, that said a bale of silage might be a bridge too far for the aul 35, it'd lift it no doubt I'd say, some of the old power loaders can lift a frightening amount of weight especially the original alo quicke ones but it might be unnecessary abuse on the 35's front axle I believe the general rule of thumb was 4wd tractors are better suited to loading silage bales purely down to the fact the front axle is naturally beefier. An industrial 35/135 would be some job for ya there's heavy duty front axles on them the size of steel girders!
+1 on the old zetors there an unappreciated tractor for sure, up until the late 90's I feel Zetor made great tractors the move to the "drop front" design sparked a decline in build quality.
The cab ergonomics of the browns and their succeltibility to a bit of corrosion for sure was their Achilles heal, but get them in a field and they punch well above their weight.
In general farmers will always have a soft spot for 70's tractors it's what they grew up with and the dam things were built so well I just can't see them going anywhere too soon 0 -
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The 70's ????? I'm only a young lad around here with ye !selectamatic wrote: »Also have see men make up a frame for using a normal bale lifter on the front loader and it seems to work grand, that said a bale of silage might be a bridge too far for the aul 35, it'd lift it no doubt I'd say, some of the old power loaders can lift a frightening amount of weight especially the original alo quicke ones but it might be unnecessary abuse on the 35's front axle I believe the general rule of thumb was 4wd tractors are better suited to loading silage bales purely down to the fact the front axle is naturally beefier. An industrial 35/135 would be some job for ya there's heavy duty front axles on them the size of steel girders!
+1 on the old zetors there an unappreciated tractor for sure, up until the late 90's I feel Zetor made great tractors the move to the "drop front" design sparked a decline in build quality.
The cab ergonomics of the browns and their succeltibility to a bit of corrosion for sure was their Achilles heal, but get them in a field and they punch well above their weight.
In general farmers will always have a soft spot for 70's tractors it's what they grew up with and the dam things were built so well I just can't see them going anywhere too soon
Is it me or are Zetors gone dear on DD in the last year did you notice ?0 -
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much the same situation here our newest is 1984! that said its a 4wd 885xl and they did remain largely unchanged throughout their long production run so it's a tad more advanced than many tractors of that age. I feel all tractors should be worked no point really having them just to look at There's many jobs that can still be done with dexta's and 35's and the likes so no point keeping them in a shed gathering dust! 0
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I wonder will today's modern tractors stand the test of time and be around in working order in 30+ years.selectamatic wrote: »much the same situation here our newest is 1984! that said its a 4wd 885xl and they did remain largely unchanged throughout their long production run so it's a tad more advanced than many tractors of that age. I feel all tractors should be worked no point really having them just to look at There's many jobs that can still be done with dexta's and 35's and the likes so no point keeping them in a shed gathering dust!
An older neighbour (single man) splashed out in 2013 and treated himself to a new VW Passat. He previously had a second hand 01 that served him well.
He had to get the timing belt/chain changed after X amount of miles. He nearly died when he realised that you have to replace the water pump at the same time as the timing belt. He said that the whole job cost him nearly €700 including the service.0 -
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Base price wrote: »I wonder will today's modern tractors stand the test of time and be around in working order in 30+ years.
An older neighbour (single man) splashed out in 2013 and treated himself to a new VW Passat. He previously had a second hand 01 that served him well.
He had to get the timing belt/chain changed after X amount of miles. He nearly died when he realised that you have to replace the water pump at the same time as the timing belt. He said that the whole job cost him nearly €700 including the service.
does he ever get out of the passat ? think the belt change is (depending on model) about 100k miles , some going in 2 years 0 -
selectamatic wrote: »Also have see men make up a frame for using a normal bale lifter on the front loader and it seems to work grand, that said a bale of silage might be a bridge too far for the aul 35, it'd lift it no doubt I'd say, some of the old power loaders can lift a frightening amount of weight especially the original alo quicke ones but it might be unnecessary abuse on the 35's front axle I believe the general rule of thumb was 4wd tractors are better suited to loading silage bales purely down to the fact the front axle is naturally beefier. An industrial 35/135 would be some job for ya there's heavy duty front axles on them the size of steel girders!
+1 on the old zetors there an unappreciated tractor for sure, up until the late 90's I feel Zetor made great tractors the move to the "drop front" design sparked a decline in build quality.
The cab ergonomics of the browns and their succeltibility to a bit of corrosion for sure was their Achilles heal, but get them in a field and they punch well above their weight.
In general farmers will always have a soft spot for 70's tractors it's what they grew up with and the dam things were built so well I just can't see them going anywhere too soon
I'd never even attempt to lift a silage bale with 35. Not meant for that torture. The silage bale lifter I have is off an old mchale shear grab on back of 4255 and was wondering could I use a hydraulic bale lifter attached to the hoist on the back of 4255 to stack 2 high.0 -
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ah well I was thinking that alright especially when you said the 35 had no power steering a man would want a fair pair of arms to turn the wheel in that scenario I'm sure you'd be able to sort something for the hoist (Hydraulic mast is what we call them) I've seen both normal bale handlers and hydraulic bale handlers fitted to rear mounted forklift style masts for tractors so I'm sure a shear grab mast would be much the same principal. Just make sure you have enough spool valves to operate it and then its a matter of welding up brackets to suit. Also a good weight at the front would be necessary as the whole ensemble would weigh a nice bit hanging off the lift arms. 0
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