The 2015 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

keane2097 · 09-08-2015 03:06PM

Mergal wrote: »

The penalty incident was just a bad call by the ref I wouldn't blame him for that but during that game he took a shoulder where there was zero contact with his face and went down holding his face in a clear attempt to con the ref a la McCann yesterday. He's a gifted footballer but he regularly does that sort of crap. When big name players like him and Sean Cavanagh are doing this sort of crap it becomes acceptable by everybody and starts becoming the norm, and that's the pity.

This was an incident on the stand side early in the game. I'm still genuinely baffled by it.

If you go to 1:40 in the video here you can see it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbxpYRgwr8&feature=youtu.be

JOD solos the ball high, Kerrigan comes across with a big swing of his arm, gets nowhere near the ball and hits O'Donoghue straight into the puss.

RTE never show a replay and the whole country starts off on this rant about a dive that never happened.

aveytare · 09-08-2015 03:07PM

keane2097 wrote: »

This was an incident on the stand side early in the game. I'm still genuinely baffled by it.

If you go to 1:40 in the video here you can see it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbxpYRgwr8&feature=youtu.be

JOD solos the ball high, Kerrigan comes across with a big swing of his arm, gets nowhere near the ball and hits O'Donoghue straight into the puss.

RTE never show a replay and the whole country starts off on this rant about a dive that never happened.

Ah come on I love James (erm not in that way) but he's definitely making the most of that.

09-08-2015 03:09PM

aveytare wrote: »

Ah come on I love James (erm not in that way) but he's definitely making the most of that.

Somebody must of thrown a rock from the stand to go down like that :eek:. I hope he recovered.

whats_my_name · 09-08-2015 03:09PM

North of 32 wrote: »

I'll get out of the way of everyone's vendetta against Tyrone now.

Seriously this whole attitude that everyone has a vendetta against Tyrone is getting tiresome at this stage. Tyrone always cross the line when it comes to things like this...face facts, ye are a dirty team, probably thee dirtiest team in the championship. If you just play ball & left the theatricals at home ye have a serious good team. The way ye opened up the monaghan defence was nice to see & if ye continued with that you could of easily won by more as we had no answer for you. But you didn't play ball when Monaghan started to put it up to you, ye had to resort to diving, sledging, feigning injury to see out the match.

What sickens me is that we have another massive discussion about the rules of the game after another Tyrone v Monaghan quater final. I felt very hard done by the first time when Sean Cavanagh made that tackle on McManus but at the end of the day what man wouldn't do it. Yesterday was just an embarrassment for Tyrone, an embarrassment for the officials & the GAA in general. And how anyone can try to condone that is beyond me!

Jippo · 09-08-2015 03:14PM

aveytare wrote: »

Ah come on I love James (erm not in that way) but he's definitely making the most of that.

Watch it again on YT.

CatFromHue · 09-08-2015 03:15PM

aveytare wrote: »

Ah come on I love James (erm not in that way) but he's definitely making the most of that.

I dunno, when you watch it on the youtube clip it does look like it'd be sore and was right in the face too.

keane2097 · 09-08-2015 03:15PM

aveytare wrote: »

Ah come on I love James (erm not in that way) but he's definitely making the most of that.

Click the video link, it's as plain as day.

aveytare · 09-08-2015 03:21PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Click the video link, it's as plain as day.

Just looked at the video, yeah looks like he did get hit on the face. The gif was a bit misleading.

Jippo · 09-08-2015 03:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Somebody must of thrown a rock from the stand to go down like that :eek:. I hope he recovered.

In fairness now I have to say that Mayo always seem to play fair by and large.

09-08-2015 03:30PM

Jippo wrote: »

In fairness now I have to say that Mayo always seem to play fair by and large.

It doesn't win you All Irelands though!. Nobody will remember in 30 years how fair we were. Its during the game that decisions should be made as the bad decisions are costing teams All Irelands. The refs have video available to them in croke park. They should just start using it from the quarters onwards at least.

Jippo · 09-08-2015 03:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It doesn't win you All Irelands though!. Nobody will remember in 30 years how fair we were. Its during the game that decisions should be made as the bad decisions are costing teams All Irelands. The refs have video available to them. They should just start using it from the quarters onwards at least.

It isn't because ye aren't dirty that ye haven't won.

Ye need to stop blaming the refs for starters. That is a losing mentality.

Kalyke · 09-08-2015 03:38PM

Jippo wrote: »

It isn't because ye aren't dirty that ye haven't won.

Ye need to stop blaming the refs for starters. That is a losing mentality.

Would you say the Ref "influenced" the result in Limerick last year one way or the other?

09-08-2015 03:42PM

Jippo wrote: »

It isn't because ye aren't dirty that ye haven't won.

Ye need to stop blaming the refs for starters. That is a losing mentality.

You seriously think Cormac Reillys shocking performance had no impact on who won the semi final replay and hence the final last year ??? Seriously! admit it or not you know a lot better than that. It was disturbing watching a replay of some of those consistent decisions in favour of Donaghy.

Its all good and well not blaming the ref if you are on the winning side, i don't think you will find many supporters of the teams that play Kerry will agree with you.

There is too much for a ref to follow anymore. Most of the umpires act like dummies and won't contribute. Video refereeing of major incidents would take all the pressure off the referee and also stop alot of the playacting that is now happening, as those feigning injury would be getting booked.

elefant · 09-08-2015 03:46PM

keane2097 wrote: »

This was an incident on the stand side early in the game. I'm still genuinely baffled by it.

If you go to 1:40 in the video here you can see it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbxpYRgwr8&feature=youtu.be

JOD solos the ball high, Kerrigan comes across with a big swing of his arm, gets nowhere near the ball and hits O'Donoghue straight into the puss.

RTE never show a replay and the whole country starts off on this rant about a dive that never happened.

*gif clip*

I missed that game. Is this the incident where all the JOD diving stuff came from?

keane2097 · 09-08-2015 03:48PM

elefant wrote: »

I missed that game. Is this the incident where all the JOD diving stuff came from?

That's the one I hear people going on about all the time anyway.

People were saying he dived for the penalty as well which will tell you the sort of master minds you're dealing with.

Jippo · 09-08-2015 03:49PM

Kalyke wrote: »

Would you say the Ref "influenced" the result in Limerick last year one way or the other?

Yes or no that isn't the point.

Champion teams don't let the ref have a say in the outcome. Mayo lost for many reasons one of them was that the referee made a number of poor decisions.

However ye can't control the referee. Ye can control getting destroyed at midfield, leaving Cafferkey on Donaghy for the entire game and not closing out the first game.

By blaming the referee and not accepting that ye had a part to play in your defeat leaves ye open to going another 64 years without Sam.

By God many Kerry people were insufferable after 2011 by the way.

09-08-2015 03:56PM

Jippo wrote: »

Yes or no that isn't the point.

Champion teams don't let the ref have a say in the outcome. Mayo lost for many reasons one of them was that the referee made a number of poor decisions.

However ye can't control the referee. Ye can control getting destroyed at midfield, leaving Cafferkey on Donaghy for the entire game and not closing out the first game.

By blaming the referee and not accepting that ye had a part to play in your defeat leaves ye open to going another 64 years without Sam.

By God many Kerry people were insufferable after 2011 by the way.

Its very very rare you hear a ref been discussed after a Rugby game. It seems to happen after every GAA game now. Thats because in Rugby if its questionable its checked within seconds and there is no doubt afterwards. It would improve the game and remove the cynicism.

Jippo · 09-08-2015 03:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Its very very rare you hear a ref been discussed after a Rugby game. It seems to happen after every GAA game now. Thats because if its questionable its checked within seconds and there is no doubt afterwards. It would improve the game and remove the cynicism.

You are either not listening nor not hearing and I don't know which one it is.

DanielODonnell · 09-08-2015 05:21PM

whats_my_name wrote: »

Seriously this whole attitude that everyone has a vendetta against Tyrone is getting tiresome at this stage. Tyrone always cross the line when it comes to things like this...face facts, ye are a dirty team, probably thee dirtiest team in the championship. If you just play ball & left the theatricals at home ye have a serious good team. The way ye opened up the monaghan defence was nice to see & if ye continued with that you could of easily won by more as we had no answer for you. But you didn't play ball when Monaghan started to put it up to you, ye had to resort to diving, sledging, feigning injury to see out the match.

What sickens me is that we have another massive discussion about the rules of the game after another Tyrone v Monaghan quater final. I felt very hard done by the first time when Sean Cavanagh made that tackle on McManus but at the end of the day what man wouldn't do it. Yesterday was just an embarrassment for Tyrone, an embarrassment for the officials & the GAA in general. And how anyone can try to condone that is beyond me!

yes they think Brolly is anti Tyrone but his mother was from Tyrone

Dirty Dingus McGee · 09-08-2015 05:23PM

DanielODonnell wrote: »

yes they think Brolly is anti Tyrone but his mother was from Tyrone

Maybe that's why he hates them.

aveytare · 09-08-2015 05:37PM

There's a bit of history between Tyrone and Brolly going back to the pre-Mickey Harte era, for whatever reason. Loved Tyrone when they were going well though. Confusing guy, is Joe.

OldMrBrennan83 · 09-08-2015 05:43PM

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aveytare · 09-08-2015 05:47PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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People say that now but at the time they came in for a lot of stick - not across the board obviously.

OldMrBrennan83 · 09-08-2015 05:53PM

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K-9 · 09-08-2015 06:41PM

Hibbeler wrote: »

I'm sorry but I feel you're wrong to equate what happened yesterday with the hard Meath teams of the Boylan era and indeed the Cork teams of that era. Those teams yes were very physical and agressive and gained a reputation for it. But the reputation let's face it is based on the other teams not being able to handle it. There is a difference to being a strong physical side and being cynical for the sake of it as was the case yesterday.

You'd have to feel that if a Meath/Cork player from that time had fallen over to get someone sent off because someone crumpled his hair ala McCann yesterday he'd hear about it from his own teammates

Cahalane against Derry?

Nah those Meath and Cork teams were dirt. Listening to off the ball and Wee James from Down mentioned how the Meath players loved being able to shake Down players hands at the after dinner reception in 91.

Meath and Cork despised each other, no respect either until later years.

That Meath team was pure dirt and Cork probably the same, just Meaths reputation stuck.

JohnBoy26 · 09-08-2015 07:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You seriously think Cormac Reillys shocking performance had no impact on who won the semi final replay and hence the final last year ??? Seriously! admit it or not you know a lot better than that. It was disturbing watching a replay of some of those consistent decisions in favour of Donaghy.

Its all good and well not blaming the ref if you are on the winning side, i don't think you will find many supporters of the teams that play Kerry will agree with you.

There is too much for a ref to follow anymore. Most of the umpires act like dummies and won't contribute. Video refereeing of major incidents would take all the pressure off the referee and also stop alot of the playacting that is now happening, as those feigning injury would be getting booked.

You're still sour over last year. Seriously build a bridge and get over it. Mayo coughed up big leads in both games when they had golden opportunities to put Kerry away. As usual they failed to do so. It's not the refs fault that mayo couldn't sustain a lead. In the end the better team with the better footballers won.

09-08-2015 07:24PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Mayo coughed up big leads in both games when they had golden opportunities to put Kerry away. As usual they failed to do so. It's not the refs fault that mayo couldn't sustain a lead. In the end the better team with the better footballers won.

Its very questionable if they Kerry were the better team. Mayo sideline decisions were very very poor but Mayo played with 14 in alot of the first game, the second game the referee was worth several points to Kerry(who inexplicably didn't have Donnacha walsh sent off for conceding a deliberate penalty when he was already on a yellow).With all that they were only beaten in extra time of the 2nd game. I can say clearly Kerry would not of been in Last years All Ireland only for the incompetence/clear favouritism of Cormac Reilly.But then your from Kerry your hardly going to have any problems with a referee when they helped you get to an All Ireland.

You'd love to brush those decision under the table and slam down any discussion on it but its becoming too common(Cork penalty this year) to ignore and the non Kerry media is finally starting to highlight it.

Amprodude · 09-08-2015 07:27PM

Hammer Archer wrote: »

In the 1990 final, Mick Lyons got a hell of a punch from a Cork player (the highlights are on YouTube). His reaction? Walked away while rubbing his cheek.

To equate the antics of certain players yesterday to the Meath or Cork teams of that time shows up a complete lack of knowledge.

It was going to him. If you saw the lead up before Colm o Neill struck him, Lyons was giving him nasty little digs and Colm eventually struck him. It's there to be seen. I'm not being biased here but the footage is there to be seen.

Amprodude · 09-08-2015 07:29PM

keane2097 wrote: »

This was an incident on the stand side early in the game. I'm still genuinely baffled by it.

If you go to 1:40 in the video here you can see it easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbxpYRgwr8&feature=youtu.be

JOD solos the ball high, Kerrigan comes across with a big swing of his arm, gets nowhere near the ball and hits O'Donoghue straight into the puss.

RTE never show a replay and the whole country starts off on this rant about a dive that never happened.

Come on Keane go to specsavers will you. He didn't strike him at all.

robbiezero · 09-08-2015 07:32PM

Hammer Archer wrote: »

In the 1990 final, Mick Lyons got a hell of a punch from a Cork player (the highlights are on YouTube). His reaction? Walked away while rubbing his cheek.

To equate the antics of certain players yesterday to the Meath or Cork teams of that time shows up a complete lack of knowledge.

Couldn't agree more. Thoroughly enjoyed watching that Meath team and other teams of that era play. No comparison with the sort of nonsense that went on yesterday.

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