Leaked IAAf report on doping

average_runner wrote: »

You just don't get it. ITS NOT ABOUT OTHER SPORTS, ITS ABOUT GETTING ATHLETICS CLEAN.

Is it about getting it clean or getting it perceived to be clean? If it's the latter then the other sports are very relevant. Copy them. Just don't test the athletes. Simple.

ThisRegard wrote: »

Cyclists aren't being tested now?

I obviously wasn't referring to cycling.

average_runner wrote: »

It's about making athletics the best example to follow.

Well Santry this weekend will be full of good role models, at all levels of ability. I hope your proposed embargo on watching athletics won't be extending to that.

IAAF statement

Key points:

The published allegations were sensationalist and confusing: the results referred to were not positive tests. In fact, ARD and The Sunday Times both admit that their evaluation of the data did not prove doping.

The data on which the reports were based was not ‘secret’ – the IAAF published a detailed analysis of this data more than four years ago.

The Sunday Times’ story is based on the allegation that 6 specific athletes recorded suspicious results which we did not follow up. In fact, as the newspaper was told before publication, each test led to intensive follow up, as a result of which the 6 athletes were subsequently caught cheating and banned.

The IAAF wants to stamp out all doping in sport and welcomes greater public debate. There is no perfect system for catching drug cheats, but the IAAF has been at the forefront of drug testing for many years. Under its pioneering Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) system, more athletes have been banned for cheating by the IAAF than all other sports federations and national anti-doping agencies put together

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pconn062 wrote: »

I wonder how many people horrified by these revelations even know the Nationals are on this weekend? I'd guess not many. (Not aimed at anyone in this thread in particular, but the armchair athletics experts that have cropped up since this report was released).

That be mainly down to the organisation. I was racing in dun laoghire last Monday, not one mention of it or any flyers.

Always get the feeling Irish athletics likes to hide this event

average_runner wrote: »

No, my attitude is when there is money to be made in sport, drugs will be a problem. I have always said soccer was rife with it.

I just dont want to bring other sports into this thread as it takes away the importance of this thread

Also some sports are going the right way, Tyrone had to wait till 8pm in Croke park to be tested after their last match, didn't complain either. If that was a professional sports person from other sports, there would of been tantrums especially soccer

I don't think waiting to give a blood test is a big deal in any sport - Leinster didn't leave Twickenham on the day of the 2012 Heineken Cup final until about midnight, and as far as I remember it was because Brian O'Driscoll had been asked to give a sample but was dehydrated and couldn't provide a sample for ages. From the brief chat we got to have with the players when they did emerge, it didn't seem like anything other than standard operating procedure.

pconn062 wrote: »

Or it could be that they don't really care about athletics except when something like this crops up, like the people who become athletics experts for a few weeks when the Olympics come around. I think the promotion for the Nationals this year has been better than others, if you follow AI on Facebook and twitter it's been all over it (although it could of course be improved).

I agree with certain points that each of you are making. You are 100% correct that many people are only interested in stories like this when it comes to athletics.

But in no way can the promotion for this event be considered anything more than appalling. Promoting it on the AAI site, FB and Twitter does nothing except get people within athletics to attend, most of whom would be attending anyway. They need to attract the casual athletics fan, somebody who enjoys the big major championship once a year, or the general sports fan. They need broader promotion to achieve this. They also fail to take advantage of the running boom. Fun running and athletics may as well be different sports given the disconnect. Why not put flyers in the goodie bags, or have a fun run on the morning of nationals, finishing on the track, or in the park behind the track, with free entry for all participants to nationals after.

pconn062 wrote: »

Or it could be that they don't really care about athletics except when something like this crops up, like the people who become athletics experts for a few weeks when the Olympics come around. I think the promotion for the Nationals this year has been better than others, if you follow AI on Facebook and twitter it's been all over it (although it could of course be improved).

The problem with those two media outlets is that you got to be following them, now if your new to running you might not do that. I don't use facebook but love twitter so have seen it there. I was just surprised there was no push at it.

A Super injunction you say. I wonder will It apply in Scotland...?

Carawaystick wrote: »

A Super injunction you say. I wonder will It apply in Scotland...?

It didnt Help Ryan Giggs too much.......

Chivito550 wrote: »

Apparently the female GB athlete in question has taken out a super-injunction on this matter. Linford Christae mentioned on a tweet too, which is sort of hilarious given his history.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristieLinford/status/628129944527327232

Think the female athlete and him have a bit of history hence the schadenfreude..

Chivito550 wrote: »

If it is who we all believe it to be, and she is clean, then she needs to come out and explain exactly what is going on. By becoming very silent on the matter it just raises serious suspicion, particularly given her usual outspoken nature.

It will be very interesting to see if she will be in Beijing with the BBC or not. That could be quite telling, as she may get hounded by journalists there.

Didn't she also say not too along ago that Mo needs to address the accusations get raised instead of staying quiet? Maybe I am wrong here.

average_runner wrote: »

Didn't she also say not too along ago that Mo needs to address the accusations get raised instead of staying quiet? Maybe I am wrong here.

There haven't been any accusations, right?

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

There haven't been any accusations, right?

Why the injunction so?

Djoucer wrote: »

Where's the evidence that there is an injunction in relation to any of this?


UK media report today that a male sports star has taken one out with regard to his private life and an affair.

Which is what Linford might be referring to.

There's no proof at all tbh. A lot of talk about it on the Letsrun threads.

A super injunction prevents the media even reporting that there is an injunction though. If there is one we won't hear about it.