Airport security!

Jawgap · 29-07-2015 01:00PM

Remember this from a few years ago....

Audit uncovers major lapses in security at Dublin airport

Dublin airport has been forced into a major review of its security procedures after officials carrying out an EU security audit managed to evade detection while carrying a replica bomb and knives through security checks at the airport, writes Conor Lally.

The lapses occurred during a joint security audit currently being carried out by officials from the European Civil Aviation Conference and the Department of Transport.

The audit, which began on Monday, involved officials concealing illegal items in clothing or in luggage and taking them through security checks.

A replica bomb concealed in luggage went unnoticed. In two other cases knives were concealed in one official's shoe and in the under-garments of another person carrying out the audit.

......lucky for them they didn't try to smuggle a nail clippers through!

wilhelm roentgen · 29-07-2015 01:07PM

A friend of mine, whilst going through airport security had a set of Allen keys confiscated by security (he was going on a cycling holiday and needed them to adjust the hired bike)

‘Sorry sir you can’t bring these in your hand luggage’
‘It’s getting stupid now.’ He said ‘WTF are you going to do with a multi tool on a plane? Unbolt the wings? Poke the pilot in the eye with the 3mm?

Anyway, he confiscated them.

My mate then goes through security, into a newsagent in the depature lounge, and on the front of a cycling magazine in the rack taped to the front in a clear plastic bag are a free set of Allen keys with every copy!

chanelfreak · 29-07-2015 01:13PM

Dublin Airport security is a joke - myself and my dad were flying back to where I live from Dublin at silly o'clock - Dad waltzes through with a bleedin stanley knife in his jacket pocket (which we'd forgotten about and thankfully discovered before he was due to fly back home!) How they didnt spot that, I do not know.

smash · 29-07-2015 01:15PM

chanelfreak wrote: »

Dublin Airport security is a joke - myself and my dad were flying back to where I live from Dublin at silly o'clock - Dad waltzes through with a bleedin stanley knife in his jacket pocket (which we'd forgotten about and thankfully discovered before he was due to fly back home!) How they didnt spot that, I do not know.

A friend of mine had a small Swiss army knife in his bag that's he'd forgotten about. Security let him keep it while at the same time confiscating another friends hair gel.

Masala · 29-07-2015 01:18PM

smash wrote: »

A friend of mine had a small Swiss army knife in his bag that's he'd forgotten about. Security let him keep it while at the same time confiscating another friends hair gel.

I think there is a new rules on 'Blade Lengths'.....so small pocket knives etc may now be allowed. I need someone to confirm this though.!!!

Badly Drunk Boy · 29-07-2015 01:19PM

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

How ridiculous is it?

31.7%

smash · 29-07-2015 01:20PM

Masala wrote: »

I think there is a new rules on 'Blade Lengths'.....so small pocket knives etc may now be allowed. I need someone to confirm this though.!!!

She said something about a small blade, then checked for confirmation and handed it back to him. It's daft.

chanelfreak · 29-07-2015 01:21PM

Masala wrote: »

I think there is a new rules on 'Blade Lengths'.....so small pocket knives etc may now be allowed. I need someone to confirm this though.!!!

See, this is what p*sses me off about airport security -' by all means, bring your blade onto the plane, as it falls within the acceptable range of size but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD leave that goddamn aerosol behind you! I dont care if you can buy another one in Boots, that is NOT getting past my watch dammit' :rolleyes:

BMJD · 29-07-2015 01:27PM

smash wrote: »

A security expert on the radio a few years ago now stated just how stupid the whole process is. A simple a quick scan should rule out weapons. The 100ml of liquid is utterly dumb because you can carry on multiple units anyway. He made a point of stating that if terrorists wanted to cause damage they could easily move to biological warfare which wouldn't be detected going through an airport. Example being that a terrorist could inject themselves with a virus that could take a few hours to gestate and could be spread through the air. When they do this, then we have serious problems.

Great ideas, keep em coming.

Regards,
Ahmed

Voodoomelon · 29-07-2015 01:31PM

It's nothing to do with security any more, it's purely to maintain the profit both the airlines and airport authorities are making since the regulations were brought in.

Can you imagine what the increase in the sale of toiletries and duty free has been since you're now only allowed tiny items and limited quantities of them? Same goes for the sale of items in flight. Not to mention the decreased weight of luggage (easily 100kg of toiletries across an average flight).

Nothing to do with security; once profits increased, there was no going back.

rubadub · 29-07-2015 01:37PM

smash wrote: »

Security let him keep it while at the same time confiscating another friends hair gel.

I had suncream once soon after the ban and copped it would be taken, they had free clear bags so I got 5 or 6 and squirted a bit into each and dumped the bottle. The woman checking asked what it was and thought it was clever, surprised she had not seen similar done before.

The lads were taking the piss out of me, then a few days later after getting roasted "ehh, any of those bags of suncream going".

Hyzepher · 29-07-2015 01:41PM

What's the rules on razor blades now - as it changed? I like travelling with just hand luggage but never allowed to bring razors - until I noticed last time that Boots were selling Razors the other side of security

smash · 29-07-2015 01:41PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

What's the rules on razor blades now - as it changed? I like travelling with just hand luggage but never allowed to bring razors - until I noticed last time that Boots were selling Razors the other side of security

I've never had trouble with Razor blades

Pat Mustard · 29-07-2015 01:44PM

IIRC, most of the more annoying security measures were put in place to encourage passengers to fly, post 9/11. Whatever sense that makes.

On the other hand, if you go by boat or if you fly by private plane, these measures are not required.

So I can only suppose that the security measures are not really about saving lives, more about some weird form of crowd control.

omega man · 29-07-2015 01:45PM

You should try having to go through staff screening multiple times a day, every working day. drives me to despair sometimes.

It's the inconsistencies that bother me most not the necessity for screening.

Hyzepher · 29-07-2015 01:52PM

smash wrote: »

I've never had trouble with Razor blades

They are on the list of prohibited items.

smash · 29-07-2015 01:54PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

They are on the list of prohibited items.

Walked through Dublin and Malaga airport with them just 2 weeks ago.

SpaceTime · 29-07-2015 01:56PM

The only issue I have with it is where in some airports the staff are extremely aggressive and rude.

The two places I find that are the US where the TSA seems to employ former prison guards or something. They can be extremely and totally unnecessarily gruff.

I have also witnessed and experienced incredibly rude treatment in France, actually at smaller airports rather than Paris CDG.

Security is a necessary evil, but flustering and frustrating passengers and being damn aggressive for no reason is probably reducing security by causing scenes for no reason and making it much easier for some terrorist to slip through while you're too busy fighting with some old granny about her bra strap (as I witnessed in the US)

5starpool · 29-07-2015 02:00PM

Jawgap wrote: »

......lucky for them they didn't try to smuggle a nail clippers through!

Nail clippers and razors (normal gilette type ones) are actually allowed through the security check, or at least I've never had an issue with them.

razorblunt · 29-07-2015 02:02PM

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

Heathrow is the worst imo, had to strip to me boxers there one time. Cracking bird in front of me also. Had a Huge stalk going on. Somehow managed to conceal it. Thankfully.

Can't wait until we can rock up 15 minutes before take off and board up.

A budán from just looking at a hot girl? Were you 12?

mad muffin · 29-07-2015 02:18PM

The dumbest security I have ever had to go through, was Dublin to Dubai.

After a seven hour odd flight off the plain and straight through to security again.

X rays and all that crap. And this was straight off the plain trying to catch a connecting flight to Perth.

fleet_admiral · 29-07-2015 02:58PM

Did you pack the bag yourself your grace?

HUUHHHHHHH

syklops · 29-07-2015 03:02PM

Plazaman wrote: »

* put your jacket, mobile phone, coins, belt and shoes in the tray after your carry on bag

No, do what I do and put your mobile, coins and belt into your bag while waiting in the queue. Put wallet, keys etc into your jacket and put that on the tray. Laptop and tablet go in one tray, jacket in the other, take off shoes, go through. Simples.

Riskymove · 29-07-2015 03:39PM

smash wrote: »

Walked through Dublin and Malaga airport with them just 2 weeks ago.

actual razor blades

or like Gillette Mach 3 etc.

Yamanoto · 29-07-2015 03:42PM

Always surprises me to see folks placing passports, wallets & phones into a tray once they reach security screening. I've witnessed countless instances of people who've then gone through the metal detector, only to then find keys, boarding passes or passports have gone walkabout somewhere along the conveyor belt.

If people took a moment prior to entering the screening process to think about just what's required of them, so much of the stress associated with negotiating airport security would simply melt away.

The_Valeyard · 29-07-2015 03:49PM

I always feel guilty going through airport security even if I've done nothing wrong.

smash · 29-07-2015 03:55PM

Riskymove wrote: »

actual razor blades

or like Gillette Mach 3 etc.

Just a Gillette razor and 2 spare blades.

Yamanoto wrote: »

If people took a moment prior to entering the screening process to think about just what's required of them, so much of the stress associated with negotiating airport security would simply melt away.

I think no matter how prepared you are there's the possibility of catching a guard who's determined to put you out no matter what. "Can you take off your shoes/jacket please"

Riskymove · 29-07-2015 03:57PM

smash wrote: »

Just a Gillette razor and 2 spare blades.

"safety " razors and disposables etc are fine to bring on board. Not really an effective weapon

actual razor blades are not allowed

mikhail · 29-07-2015 04:00PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

Always surprises me to see folks placing passports, wallets & phones into a tray once they reach security screening. I've witnessed countless instances of people who've then gone through the metal detector, only to then find keys, boarding passes or passports have gone walkabout somewhere along the conveyor belt.

Well, I considered storing my wallet up my hole, but decided the better of it.

29-07-2015 04:06PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

I have also witnessed and experienced incredibly rude treatment in France, actually at smaller airports rather than Paris CDG.

The most obnoxious people who inhabit this lonely planet (outside of the French civil service) are CDG employees. They are a mix between militiamen and sadist bureaucrats. Even the layout of the terminals, with the exception of Beautiful 2E, are insufferable. It is the most detestable airport in Europe. Even dirty old Beauvais is a cordial place by comparison.

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