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Why are there Tricolours in British ports, but no British flags in Irish sea ports?

  • 29-07-2015 11:58AM
    #1
    LordSutch
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    That " Tricolour festival fllag thread" got me thinking about something we noticed on our holidays across the water this summer, re Welsh hotels/pubs and lots of Tricolours flying.

    How come Tricolours are so prevalent at Hotels, Restaurants & Pubs at Welsh sea ports like Holyhead & Fishguard, yet there are no Welsh flags or Union flags flown from Hotels in Dublin, Rosslare or Dun Laoghaire?

    Was in Dun Laoghaire only yesterday and there are no Welsh or Union flags to be seen, yet British tourists are all over the place.

    Surely it would be a nice welcome to Ireland for travellers from Britain to see their flags flying outside hotels & pubs on this side of the Irish sea just as Tricolouurs are flown at Welsh ports and towns . . .

    Any ideas why we don't reciprocate on the flags issue?


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  • #2
    the dark phantom
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    There's enough of them flying in Antrim and Down as it is..


  • #3
    Herb Powell
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    It's political correctness gone mad


  • #4
    Axel Lamp
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    Idiots will get offended.


  • #5
    Knasher
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    I take it you slept through the day when they covered Irish history in class.


  • #6
    padohaodha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭padohaodha


    Kinda obvious really...there's still a large minority who would not be happy seeing a union jack flying in Ireland...
    LordSutch wrote: »
    That " Tricolour festival fllag thread" got me thinking about something we noticed on our holidays across the water this summer, re Welsh hotels/pubs and lots of Tricolours flying.

    How come Tricolours are so prevalent at Hotels, Restaurants & Pubs at Welsh sea ports like Holyhead & Fishguard, yet there are no Welsh flags or Union flags flown from Hotels in Dublin, Rosslare or Dun Laoghaire? Was in Dun Laoghaire only yesterday and there are no Welsh or Union flags to be seen, yet British tourists are all over the place.

    Surely it would be a nice welcome to Ireland for travellers from Britain to see their flags flying outside hotels & pubs on this side of the Irish sea just as Tricolouurs are flown at Welsh ports and towns . . .

    Any ideas why we don't reciprocate on the flags issue?


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  • #7
    Axel Lamp
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    the dark phantom wrote: »
    There's enough of them flying in Antrim and Down as it is..

    And rightly so as Antrim and Down (amongst others) are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.


  • #8
    Trent Houseboat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    What is this, boards.ni? Can't move for flag chats.

    In answer to the question, you often see English, Welsh and Scottish flags outside Dublin city pubs pubs during the six nations.


  • #9
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    Think the union flag is up at Dublin airport, at least it was last time I was there. So maybe it's a sea faring thing!


  • #10
    newballsplease
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    Axel Lamp wrote: »
    And rightly so as Antrim and Down (amongst others) are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    And........ We're off


  • #11
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,385 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    More mature and less insecure.


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  • #12
    csallmighty
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    Fleg


  • #13
    Nodin
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    Knasher wrote: »
    I take it you slept through the day when they covered Irish history in class.


    He cried when they got to around 1921 or so.


  • #14
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Axel Lamp wrote: »
    Idiots will get offended.

    No need to be so harsh on yourself.


  • #15
    Herb Powell
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    Seriously though, I'm fairly sure I've seen plenty hotels etc with ample fleg.


  • #16
    conorh91
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    Why are you so obsessed with Britain?

    Really, why?


  • #17
    Crooked Jack
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    That " Tricolour festival fllag thread" got me thinking about something we noticed on our holidays across the water this summer, re Welsh hotels/pubs and lots of Tricolours flying.

    How come Tricolours are so prevalent at Hotels, Restaurants & Pubs at Welsh sea ports like Holyhead & Fishguard, yet there are no Welsh flags or Union flags flown from Hotels in Dublin, Rosslare or Dun Laoghaire?

    Was in Dun Laoghaire only yesterday and there are no Welsh or Union flags to be seen, yet British tourists are all over the place.

    Surely it would be a nice welcome to Ireland for travellers from Britain to see their flags flying outside hotels & pubs on this side of the Irish sea just as Tricolouurs are flown at Welsh ports and towns . . .

    Any ideas why we don't reciprocate on the flags issue?

    You southerners are obsessed with flags.


  • #18
    LordSutch
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    conorh91 wrote: »
    Why are you so obsessed with Britain?

    Really, why?

    Why are the Welsh so obsessed with the Tricolour?

    Really why?


  • #19
    Herb Powell
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    I don't think they are.


  • #20
    PirateShampoo
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    Being a Welsh man myself I think I've a good perspective on this subject.


    Its because we just don't care.


  • #21
    Nodin
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    conorh91 wrote: »
    Why are you so obsessed with Britain?

    Really, why?

    Sutch is a self confessed southern unionist.


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  • #22
    LordSutch
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    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    Being a Welsh man myself I think I've a good perspective on this subject.


    Its because we just don't care.

    You fly the Tricolour on Welsh Hotels, Restaurants & pubs because you just don't care?
    Surely the opposite is true re the tourist market?


  • #23
    Samaris
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    I'd say there's a couple of reasons for it.

    Firstly, historical reasons - people emigrating to the UK, and putting a bit of a welcome out to those following them. So it's not unlikely that these areas have quite a high proportion of those of Irish descent. There's not been the same thing of British people emigrating to Ireland in droves, so there's just not the same sense of wanting to "claim" a little bit of it.

    Secondly, let's face it, we -are- all focussed on the UK. It's our nearest land-mass. Those ports are -far- more important to us than to the UK. More important ones for them would be point-of-entry into the main European land-mass.


  • #24
    PirateShampoo
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    You fly the Tricolour on Welsh Hotels, Restaurants & pubs because you just don't care?
    Surely the opposite is true re the tourist market?

    That's exactly why we don't, we really couldn't give a toss about the whole British / Irish history baggage Bollox


  • #25
    Brian2208
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Brian2208


    When the 6 nations are on you'd see a lot of English, Welsh and Scottish flags flying outside pubs and hotels. It's not like they're never around


  • #26
    LordSutch
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    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    That's exactly why we don't, we really couldn't give a toss about the whole British / Irish history baggage Bollox

    I hope we're not talking about the whole "Irish history baggage bollox" as you put it...

    but rather why, in this new 21st century relationship between Britain & Ireland are we not reciprocating by flying Welsh flags (or union jacks) on hotels & pubs around our ports via a vis the large influx of Welsh/British tourists during the summer months.


  • #27
    Herb Powell
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    It's almost as if we're a nation of individuals who have the right to choose for ourselves whether we'd like to fly a flag in front of our homes and businesses


  • #28
    c_man
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    Samaris wrote: »
    There's not been the same thing of British people emigrating to Ireland in droves, so there's just not the same sense of wanting to "claim" a little bit of it.

    Well... nah.


  • #29
    Crooked Jack
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    Samaris wrote: »
    There's not been the same thing of British people emigrating to Ireland in droves, so there's just not the same sense of wanting to "claim" a little bit of it.

    http://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sciences/1910-how-many-british-immigrants-are-there-in-other-people-s-countries


  • #30
    WesternZulu
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Why are the Welsh so obsessed with the Tricolour?

    Really why?

    I lived in Wales for 3.5 years and never saw the Irish tricolour being flown so you're talking ****e LordSutch and only looking for a reaction.


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  • #31
    Paramite Pie
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    Temple Bar is full of flags of other nations on hotels & hostels. It's more common to see English, Welsh & Scottish flags than it is to see a Union Jack however.


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