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Why are there Tricolours in British ports, but no British flags in Irish sea ports?

  • 29-07-2015 10:58am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭


    That " Tricolour festival fllag thread" got me thinking about something we noticed on our holidays across the water this summer, re Welsh hotels/pubs and lots of Tricolours flying.

    How come Tricolours are so prevalent at Hotels, Restaurants & Pubs at Welsh sea ports like Holyhead & Fishguard, yet there are no Welsh flags or Union flags flown from Hotels in Dublin, Rosslare or Dun Laoghaire?

    Was in Dun Laoghaire only yesterday and there are no Welsh or Union flags to be seen, yet British tourists are all over the place.

    Surely it would be a nice welcome to Ireland for travellers from Britain to see their flags flying outside hotels & pubs on this side of the Irish sea just as Tricolouurs are flown at Welsh ports and towns . . .

    Any ideas why we don't reciprocate on the flags issue?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    There's enough of them flying in Antrim and Down as it is..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    It's political correctness gone mad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Axel Lamp


    Idiots will get offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    I take it you slept through the day when they covered Irish history in class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭padohaodha


    Kinda obvious really...there's still a large minority who would not be happy seeing a union jack flying in Ireland...
    LordSutch wrote: »
    That " Tricolour festival fllag thread" got me thinking about something we noticed on our holidays across the water this summer, re Welsh hotels/pubs and lots of Tricolours flying.

    How come Tricolours are so prevalent at Hotels, Restaurants & Pubs at Welsh sea ports like Holyhead & Fishguard, yet there are no Welsh flags or Union flags flown from Hotels in Dublin, Rosslare or Dun Laoghaire? Was in Dun Laoghaire only yesterday and there are no Welsh or Union flags to be seen, yet British tourists are all over the place.

    Surely it would be a nice welcome to Ireland for travellers from Britain to see their flags flying outside hotels & pubs on this side of the Irish sea just as Tricolouurs are flown at Welsh ports and towns . . .

    Any ideas why we don't reciprocate on the flags issue?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Axel Lamp


    There's enough of them flying in Antrim and Down as it is..

    And rightly so as Antrim and Down (amongst others) are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    What is this, boards.ni? Can't move for flag chats.

    In answer to the question, you often see English, Welsh and Scottish flags outside Dublin city pubs pubs during the six nations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Think the union flag is up at Dublin airport, at least it was last time I was there. So maybe it's a sea faring thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    Axel Lamp wrote: »
    And rightly so as Antrim and Down (amongst others) are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    And........ We're off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    More mature and less insecure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭csallmighty


    Fleg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Knasher wrote: »
    I take it you slept through the day when they covered Irish history in class.


    He cried when they got to around 1921 or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Axel Lamp wrote: »
    Idiots will get offended.

    No need to be so harsh on yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Seriously though, I'm fairly sure I've seen plenty hotels etc with ample fleg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Why are you so obsessed with Britain?

    Really, why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    LordSutch wrote: »
    That " Tricolour festival fllag thread" got me thinking about something we noticed on our holidays across the water this summer, re Welsh hotels/pubs and lots of Tricolours flying.

    How come Tricolours are so prevalent at Hotels, Restaurants & Pubs at Welsh sea ports like Holyhead & Fishguard, yet there are no Welsh flags or Union flags flown from Hotels in Dublin, Rosslare or Dun Laoghaire?

    Was in Dun Laoghaire only yesterday and there are no Welsh or Union flags to be seen, yet British tourists are all over the place.

    Surely it would be a nice welcome to Ireland for travellers from Britain to see their flags flying outside hotels & pubs on this side of the Irish sea just as Tricolouurs are flown at Welsh ports and towns . . .

    Any ideas why we don't reciprocate on the flags issue?

    You southerners are obsessed with flags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    conorh91 wrote: »
    Why are you so obsessed with Britain?

    Really, why?

    Why are the Welsh so obsessed with the Tricolour?

    Really why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    I don't think they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Being a Welsh man myself I think I've a good perspective on this subject.


    Its because we just don't care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    conorh91 wrote: »
    Why are you so obsessed with Britain?

    Really, why?

    Sutch is a self confessed southern unionist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Being a Welsh man myself I think I've a good perspective on this subject.


    Its because we just don't care.

    You fly the Tricolour on Welsh Hotels, Restaurants & pubs because you just don't care?
    Surely the opposite is true re the tourist market?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    I'd say there's a couple of reasons for it.

    Firstly, historical reasons - people emigrating to the UK, and putting a bit of a welcome out to those following them. So it's not unlikely that these areas have quite a high proportion of those of Irish descent. There's not been the same thing of British people emigrating to Ireland in droves, so there's just not the same sense of wanting to "claim" a little bit of it.

    Secondly, let's face it, we -are- all focussed on the UK. It's our nearest land-mass. Those ports are -far- more important to us than to the UK. More important ones for them would be point-of-entry into the main European land-mass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    LordSutch wrote: »
    You fly the Tricolour on Welsh Hotels, Restaurants & pubs because you just don't care?
    Surely the opposite is true re the tourist market?

    That's exactly why we don't, we really couldn't give a toss about the whole British / Irish history baggage Bollox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Brian2208


    When the 6 nations are on you'd see a lot of English, Welsh and Scottish flags flying outside pubs and hotels. It's not like they're never around


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    That's exactly why we don't, we really couldn't give a toss about the whole British / Irish history baggage Bollox

    I hope we're not talking about the whole "Irish history baggage bollox" as you put it...

    but rather why, in this new 21st century relationship between Britain & Ireland are we not reciprocating by flying Welsh flags (or union jacks) on hotels & pubs around our ports via a vis the large influx of Welsh/British tourists during the summer months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    It's almost as if we're a nation of individuals who have the right to choose for ourselves whether we'd like to fly a flag in front of our homes and businesses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Samaris wrote: »
    There's not been the same thing of British people emigrating to Ireland in droves, so there's just not the same sense of wanting to "claim" a little bit of it.

    Well... nah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Samaris wrote: »
    There's not been the same thing of British people emigrating to Ireland in droves, so there's just not the same sense of wanting to "claim" a little bit of it.

    http://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sciences/1910-how-many-british-immigrants-are-there-in-other-people-s-countries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Why are the Welsh so obsessed with the Tricolour?

    Really why?

    I lived in Wales for 3.5 years and never saw the Irish tricolour being flown so you're talking ****e LordSutch and only looking for a reaction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    Temple Bar is full of flags of other nations on hotels & hostels. It's more common to see English, Welsh & Scottish flags than it is to see a Union Jack however.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I lived in Wales for 3.5 years and never saw the Irish tricolour being flown so you're talking ****e LordSutch and only looking for a reaction.

    I am talking about Hotels, pubs & restaurants near the Welsh ports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I am talking about Hotels, pubs & restaurants near the Welsh ports.

    Plenty of hotels etc in Ireland have Union Jacks etc hoisted up outside.

    You wouldn't be trying to stir the faeces now would you Sutch?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Plenty of hotels etc in Ireland have Union Jacks etc hoisted up outside.

    You wouldn't be trying to stir the faeces now would you Sutch?

    This is becoming tedious.

    I'll ask again this time next year (reciprocal Welsh/Irish flags near ports on Hotels etc).

    Bye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    LordSutch wrote: »
    This is becoming tedious.

    I'll ask again this time next year.

    Bye.

    I'm already counting the days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Wexicanfan


    800 YEARS!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,381 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Axel Lamp wrote: »
    And rightly so as Antrim and Down (amongst others) are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
    no they are the stolen territories which belong to ireland. the union flag is not welcome in the peoples republic.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Reiver


    no they are the stolen territories which belong to ireland. the union flag is not welcome in the peoples republic.

    To be honest those Corkmen say the same about me and my fellow brethren from Kerry.

    You think the feckers would have moved on after all this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    no they are the stolen territories which belong to ireland. the union flag is not welcome in the peoples republic.

    We had it up over city hall for a while bai https://www.flickr.com/photos/artwidak/5741429152


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Because us Republicans don't want British flags flown anywhere in Ireland, so to make us not start a war they keep us happy.


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