Man batters dog to death.

NorthStars · 28-07-2015 07:56PM #1

Not sure where to start on this one so I'll post the link first.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/man-avoids-jail-after-violently-killing-dog-in-public-park-1.2299771

What kind of a sick individual does something like this to an animal?

The judge seems to be living on a different planet too claiming that the guy is 'a contributing member of society' and that 'he didn't want to deprive the man's child of having a dog'.

Blame the anti-depressants seems to be the main defence.

If this guy is capable of doing this to an animal, what else is he capable of doing?

mikom · 28-07-2015 07:58PM

The most chilling bit.........

He further noted that Dowling cares for a child

snubbleste · 28-07-2015 07:58PM

Would it be different if it was a rat or a pigeon or a termite

SpaceTime · 28-07-2015 08:00PM

We should immediately inform the pharmaceutical regulation agencies and the FDA about this dangerous side effect!

Can the judge not look at medical evidence before making a pronouncement like that based on zero science ?!

At the very least get a psychiatrist's opinion on the medication and its possible side effects

thomasm · 28-07-2015 08:00PM

With this and the other threads on lenient sentencing you feel the need to have a clean out of the judiciary at this stage. They seem to be removed from reality

Señor Fancy Pants · 28-07-2015 08:00PM

Ansolute scumbag.

He repeatedly slammed the dog into the ground and thought he was "doing the right thing"!

Sickening.

mikom · 28-07-2015 08:00PM

snubbleste wrote: »

Would it be different if it was a rat or a pigeon or a termite

They'd probably die quicker.

The_Valeyard · 28-07-2015 08:01PM

What the f*ck. How could someone be so cruel. Serious issues there. Poor creature .

omahaid · 28-07-2015 08:03PM

What judge was involved? I bet I can guess. Is that petition to sack him still going?

Encrypted Pigeon · 28-07-2015 08:04PM

mikom wrote: »

snubbleste wrote: »

Would it be different if it was a rat or a pigeon or a termite

They'd probably die quicker.

:eek:

strandroad · 28-07-2015 08:04PM

omahaid wrote: »

What judge was involved? I bet I can guess. Is that petition to sack him still going?

This judge apparently:

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/11/18/who-is-judge-nolan-jailing/

Fr_Dougal · 28-07-2015 08:08PM

One witness saw Liam Dowling (44) swing the Jack Russell dog overhead by its lead and smash it to the ground up to 30 times as he crossed a park area by Clonliffe College.

Sicko.

anewme · 28-07-2015 08:12PM

Very upsetting reading

between reading this and then that disgusting American Dentist who paid to slaughter a majestic lion, you would have to wonder who the ANIMALS are?

Birneybau · 28-07-2015 08:14PM

anewme wrote: »

Very upsetting reading

between reading this and then that disgusting American Dentist who paid to slaughter a majestic lion, you would have to wonder who the ANIMALS are?

The things being killed?

That judge is a facking joke. Won't bar yer man from keeping animals as it would be wrong to deny the child.

Encrypted Pigeon · 28-07-2015 08:14PM

Are judges in this country actually accountable to anyone? Some decisions you read about are baffling.

Birneybau · 28-07-2015 08:15PM

Encrypted Pigeon wrote: »

Are judges in this country actually accountable to anyone? Some decisions you read about are baffling.

A lot of them are from the same judge, that is, this one...again.

KungPao · 28-07-2015 08:16PM

I won't be reading that. Animal cruelty sickens me and enrages me.

Hope he's locked up for a long time, banned from ever owning a pet and looking after children.

Medusa22 · 28-07-2015 08:18PM

I just cannot believe that the judge stated that he wouldn't ban Dowling from keeping animals because he didn't want to deprive his child of a pet. That man should never be allowed to have an animal ever again, he could have brought the dog to the DSPCA and had him euthanised humanely at the very least, or brought him to a no-kill shelter that would have him fostered or rehomed. There was no need to do this, and I'm sure that the child will be far more traumatised knowing that his/her father beat their 9 year old pet to death than by being not allowed to have another pet.

When the Sun Hits · 28-07-2015 08:21PM

When withdrawing from antidepressants I was uncontrollably aggressive and was smashing plates all over the place. Doctors like to underplay the effects of these medications unfortunately.

Horrible incident obviously.

RaRaRasputin · 28-07-2015 08:35PM

Well at least he is being named in the papers which increases the chances of someone deciding to give him a taste of his own medicine.
I'm getting quite tired of these drink/ drug excuses, esp. prescription drugs
where you have the chance to talk to someone about the effects.

But since he got off so lightly, let's hope his child doesn't get sick, because clearly this doesn't seem to be a worry for the judge.

pawrick · 28-07-2015 08:36PM

These judges are a joke and bring shame to the country every time we hear of these cases. He'd probably get more of a punishment if he didn't have a dog licence.

When the Sun Hits · 28-07-2015 08:39PM

RaRaRasputin wrote: »

I'm getting quite tired of these drink/ drug excuses, esp. prescription drugs
where you have the chance to talk to someone about the effects.

Doctors are either totally dishonest or lacking in awareness when in come to the effects of SSRIs.

I'm not excusing his behavior because I don't actually think the meds were the cause for what he did, but your comment is not accurate with regards to SSRIs. Doctors are like dodgy car salesmen when it comes to antidepressants.

Vojera · 28-07-2015 08:40PM

Jebus! Whatever about his reasons for committing this horrific act, he doesn't even get a ban from keeping animals?

What community service is he likely to get? Any chance he'd have to work with an animal rescue in the hopes that he fully appreciates what he did?

moc moc a moc · 28-07-2015 08:41PM

thomasm wrote: »

With this and the other threads on lenient sentencing you feel the need to have a clean out of the judiciary at this stage. They seem to be removed from reality

This Martin Nolan character in particular is notorious for ridiculous lenience, I remember his name coming up many times in conjunction with suspended sentences for violent animals with dozens of previous convictions. He and his ilk need to go.

Let's remember the name 'Judge Martin Nolan' next time the politicians come knocking looking for votes, folks. 'Judge Mary Ellen Ring' is another one to bring up while we're at it.

Dave_The_Sheep · 28-07-2015 08:43PM

KungPao wrote: »

I won't be reading that. Animal cruelty sickens me and enrages me.

Hope he's locked up for a long time, banned from ever owning a pet and looking after children.

Well, I hate to break it to you, but the answer is "none of the above".

Absurd decision from Nolan. Again.

RDM_83 again · 28-07-2015 08:44PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

We should immediately inform the pharmaceutical regulation agencies and the FDA about this dangerous side effect!

Can the judge not look at medical evidence before making a pronouncement like that based on zero science ?!

At the very least get a psychiatrist's opinion on the medication and its possible side effects

He should have at least demanded he had a psycological assesment or similar, I am open to idea that sometimes a person isn't in full control of their actions due to their mental state but at least get that assessed by a qualified person, if its going to be a mitigating factor then they should at least be treated!

hatrickpatrick · 28-07-2015 08:44PM

The thread title badly needs to be edited to include "and gets no jail time". :mad:

F*ck the Irish courts. Seriously, f*ck them. If this sh!te goes on much longer I'm going to find myself advocating vigilantism more and more, which really isn't something I want to support. But scumbags not suffering any real consequences for their scumbaggery is an absolute affront to civilised society. Something has to change.

omahaid · 28-07-2015 08:51PM

He was shuffled off to family court the last time his decisions were bringing some scrutiny on the judiciary - http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/01/14/to-the-family-court-with-you/

RaRaRasputin · 28-07-2015 09:40PM

When the Sun Hits wrote: »

Doctors are either totally dishonest or lacking in awareness when in come to the effects of SSRIs.

I'm not excusing his behavior because I don't actually think the meds were the cause for what he did, but your comment is not accurate with regards to SSRIs. Doctors are like dodgy car salesmen when it comes to antidepressants.

That's why they come with leaflets. Every antidepressant comes with a leaflet that lists side effects such as mentioned and asks you to seek clarification. If the doctor is little help I am not surprised, but then you look elsewhere...as I said, I am tired of people blaming their shortcomings on others.

Streetwalker · 28-07-2015 09:51PM

NorthStars wrote: »

Not sure where to start on this one so I'll post the link first.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/man-avoids-jail-after-violently-killing-dog-in-public-park-1.2299771

What kind of a sick individual does something like this to an animal?

The judge seems to be living on a different planet too claiming that the guy is 'a contributing member of society' and that 'he didn't want to deprive the man's child of having a dog'.

Blame the anti-depressants seems to be the main defence.

If this guy is capable of doing this to an animal, what else is he capable of doing?

Eh doing it to another animal?

When the Sun Hits · 28-07-2015 09:57PM

RaRaRasputin wrote: »

That's why they come with leaflets. Every antidepressant comes with a leaflet that lists side effects such as mentioned and asks you to seek clarification. If the doctor is little help I am not surprised, but then you look elsewhere...as I said, I am tired of people blaming their shortcomings on others.

Leaflets are written by the pharma companies, they do not have adequate information. It's disingenuous to dismiss doctors advising patients into taking meds as a person's "shortcomings". Medical professionals should be aware of all the properties and possible side effects of anything they prescribe. It's one of the things they're paid to know.

Man batters dog to death.

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