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New post codes not accepted on Ebay

  • 28-07-2015 11:39am
    #1
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭


    So I have tried to add my new post code to my ebay account. I am told that it is invalid?


    So have we now set up nothing that the rest of the world cant understand?

    Typical Irish or an Ebay problem


Comments

  • #2
    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
    Site Banned Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    EBay problem, probably haven't updated the system.


  • #3
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    It's odd, I've added it to Paypal, Amazon and a few others and it's accepted them OK, but ebay seems to not like them somehow, even though my previous default of 0000 seems perfectly OK!


  • #4
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    Alun wrote: »
    It's odd, I've added it to Paypal, Amazon and a few others and it's accepted them OK, but ebay seems to not like them somehow, even though my previous default of 0000 seems perfectly OK!

    If it's other than IE or 0000 etc (like 7 chars) then it attempts to match it to a UK postcode and finds it invalid. AFAIK ebay.ie is basically just the UK site with Euro conversion. Guess they'll change the postcode validation at some point.

    Looks like Paypal, Amazon etc don't validate the postcode field.


  • #5
    moyners
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    MBSnr wrote: »
    If it's other than IE or 0000 etc (like 7 chars) then it attempts to match it to a UK postcode and finds it invalid. AFAIK ebay.ie is basically just the UK site with Euro conversion. Guess they'll change the postcode validation at some point.

    Looks like Paypal, Amazon etc don't validate the postcode field.

    Someone mentioned on the "National Postcodes to be introduced" thread a few weeks before Eircode was officially launched that Paypal was asking for a routing key and four digits when he tried to change his address. It went back to normal a few hours later. So it looks like Paypal at least has plans to validate it.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95975998&postcount=6126


  • #6
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    OK perfect, so looks like I will just need to wait.

    I hope this isn't another complete waste of money


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  • #7
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Ebay issue. Why automatically blame the system?


  • #8
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Ebay issue. Why automatically blame the system?

    It's more fun, and fashionable to blame EirCode.


  • #9
    threeiron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭threeiron


    KwackerJack wrote: »
    I hope this isn't another complete waste of money
    What are you going to buy?


  • #10
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Ebay issue. Why automatically blame the system?

    Because it's Irish!!!

    Voting, banking now post codes!

    I'm not holding up much faith!


  • #11
    KwackerJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    threeiron wrote: »
    What are you going to buy?

    Well, we will be paying for this system whether it works or not!

    But on eBay I'm buying a 90 degree air valve for my motorbike :-)


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  • #12
    MrMorooka
    Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭MrMorooka


    I haven't bothered updating any of my online shopping accounts with eircode- I live in Dublin, my addresses are all fully unique and easy to find, never had any issues with them. It feels like the system is much more useful in rural areas, but most addresses in Dublin don't need it.


  • #13
    brandodub
    Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭brandodub


    MrMorooka wrote: »
    I haven't bothered updating any of my online shopping accounts with eircode- I live in Dublin, my addresses are all fully unique and easy to find, never had any issues with them. It feels like the system is much more useful in rural areas, but most addresses in Dublin don't need it.

    So do I and am still waiting on my first letter arrival with my full eircode !


  • #14
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    What a catastrophe. Eircode should be ashamed.

    (Sarcasm)


  • #15
    moyners
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    Some posters on another thread who've been in contact with eBay customer care have been told that eBay is aware of the problem and working on it.


  • #16
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    That's because it's not a POST code. It does NOT aid delivery of mail.

    It's solely a bureaucratic identifier for your dwelling. Nothing more.


  • #17
    clewbays
    Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭clewbays


    Trick of the Tail wrote: »
    That's because it's not a POST code. It does NOT aid delivery of mail.

    It's solely a bureaucratic identifier for your dwelling. Nothing more.

    ... Apart from a means of distinguishing houses with non-unique addresses from each other to facilitate service delivery, ambulances, online ordering etc. Wake up pal, we have a new genesis!


  • #18
    ManAboutCouch
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭ManAboutCouch


    Eircode data was issued to accredited Value Added Resellers late last week. It will take time for third parties, like eBay, to integrate eircode into their systems.


  • #19
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    How does it facilitate delivery? Without buying the database you can't translate to lat/long, so you can't find your way to an address with it.

    The map tool on eircodes website is so badly designed that it's nearly useless. (If you move or scale the map you lose the original point, as it doesn't drop a fixed pin).

    The only way it would help differentiate dwellings for delivery purposes would be if everyone displayed their eircodes on their gatepost.


  • #20
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    [QUOTE=Trick of the Tail;96569366
    The only way it would help differentiate dwellings for delivery purposes would be if everyone displayed their eircodes on their gatepost.[/QUOTE]

    People will not even display their house number (where they have one) on their gatepost. However, the few who do allow one to find the house one is looking for, so thanks to the few who do display it.

    Given that rural house addresses are related to townlands, most counties do not display these, so there is a start for finding rural addresses. When do you think that will be universal?


  • #21
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Not just ebay. I don't see the code appearing anywhere; not on business cards, addresses on the web, people's email - nowhere.

    Not even on Government addresses.

    So if I phone the police and tell them there is a break-in four doors down from K3K2K1 will they not ask me "where the f*** is that"?


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  • #22
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Schadenfreudia wrote: »
    Not just ebay. I don't see the code appearing anywhere; not on business cards, addresses on the web, people's email - nowhere.

    Google (for example) "Wicklow A98" or "Dublin D01", loads of companies there with their Eircode displayed.


  • #23
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Alun wrote: »
    Google (for example) "Wicklow A98" or "Dublin D01", loads of companies there with their Eircode displayed.

    Just googled "Wicklow A94" and came up with - "A 94-year-old Bray man won worldwide recognition this week - as the globe's longest serving altar boy" !


  • #24
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Schadenfreudia wrote: »
    Just googled "Wicklow A94" and came up with - "A 94-year-old Bray man won worldwide recognition this week - as the globe's longest serving altar boy" !
    Perhaps if you'd tried the correct "Dublin A94" instead you'd have got more hits.


  • #25
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Actually A98 produces much more sensible results. :)

    Yep - it does seem to be coming into use.


  • #26
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    ^^^
    I've been looking for a few things online and have found that a number of companies have started to add an Eircode in their location details. It's mostly places like this and not the average single towns main hardware store. Not bad considering it's only been out a month.


  • #27
    Bray Head
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Bray Head


    MBSnr wrote: »
    ^^^
    I've been looking for a few things online and have found that a number of companies have started to add an Eircode in their location details. It's mostly places like this and not the average single towns main hardware store. Not bad considering it's only been out a month.


    It's a big improvement for businesses in out-of-town office and retail parks with addresses like this:
    Unit 28 Laois Shopping Centre, Portlaoise, Co Laois


  • #28
    1huge1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,174 ✭✭✭1huge1


    I hardly expected everyone to be using it straight away, granted government departments and the public sector should be forced to implement them, but I believe we won't see any real implementation until 12 months in.

    Hopefully by then, google maps will have uploaded it onto their database.


  • #29
    moyners
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    1huge1 wrote: »
    I hardly expected everyone to be using it straight away, granted government departments and the public sector should be forced to implement them, but I believe we won't see any real implementation until 12 months in.

    Hopefully by then, google maps will have uploaded it onto their database.

    Should be relatively easy for Google to add it since they already purchase the Geodirectory database and Eircode is built on that. Saw a guy on twitter with a relative working in Google reckons they're implementing it in September but nothing official.


  • #30
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    moyners wrote: »
    Some posters on another thread who've been in contact with eBay customer care have been told that eBay is aware of the problem and working on it.
    When I tried to do this just after the launch, I had the same issue so I just put the postcode on one of the secondary address lines, no problem.

    I will just wait until they sort out the problem and then "fix" the address.


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  • #31
    byrnefm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭byrnefm


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    When I tried to do this just after the launch, I had the same issue so I just put the postcode on one of the secondary address lines, no problem.

    I will just wait until they sort out the problem and then "fix" the address.
    I tried updating my main postal address on eBay.ie this morning .. and my Eircode is now accepted :). It didn't work on the site last month.


  • #32
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    My account is historically on the UK system, and it's taking the correct Eircodes on the UK site also,

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #33
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    It works partly on ebay now.

    They specifically have an Eircode field now for the main registration address which is great. However if you need to add or update a credit card, the postcode field in that form won't accept the Eircode!

    Also I have to say ebay's site handles Irish addresses really isn't very good. You have to put in both City and County, so yet end up with silly looking addresses like this:

    Dublin, Dublin, D0X XXXX

    Paypal also accepts the Eircode now and handles Irish addresses much better, with only one Dublin, etc.

    Amazon also accepts Eircodes and like paypal, no silly need for separate city and county.

    I'm not sure if any of them are really supporting Eircodes, in terms of actually validating the format of the Eircode and even going further and matching the Eircode with the address entered. It more feels like they just relaxed the validation on the Postcode field.

    Having said that it definitely helps to add the Eircode included. I've had packages where the first line of the address got damaged, so the package made it to the local sorting office, but couldn't be delivered. If the Eircode is at the bottom of the address, then it adds an extra way for them to find you.


  • #34
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    bk wrote: »
    IAlso I have to say ebay's site handles Irish addresses really isn't very good. You have to put in both City and County, so yet end up with silly looking addresses like this

    Dublin, Dublin, D0X XXXX

    It does the same for UK addresses.

    You end up with an address like London, Greater London or York, Yorkshire or Liverpool, Merseyside etc etc.

    County names have not been required by Royal Mail or the UK Post Office for years, and in cases like York, Liverpool, London and other major towns and cities, were never required.

    I think it's because ebay was originally configured to handle US addresses which require a state to be entered, and whoever adapted it for use in the UK and Ireland decided that counties were the nearest equivalent to US states.


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