Ultra Discussion Thread

Krusty_Clown · 26-07-2015 8:33pm

average_runner wrote: »

I am Sure the gaa training had no effect also cough cough.

We can ask the man himself, if he shows up, but I'm sure it had little to no residual benefit. He retired from hurling 10 years ago and then took up triathlon. I'm sure he played hide and seek when he was a mere lad. Perhaps his superb achievement is as a result of his hide and seek skills?

I'm not part of the anti-GAA brigade. Just questioning the logic of attributing his ultra-running success to his GAA days. I'd say it's more than likely down to years of endurance/trail specific training. Shame to make this a tirade anyway. Better to focus on Paul's significant achievement, rather than using it as a flag-bearing opportunity.

belcarra · 26-07-2015 11:27pm

Well at least it was nice to see Cork win something this weekend!!

kit3 · 27-07-2015 1:39am

Just to clarify, the first part of my post was very much tongue-in-cheek - I wouldn't for a minute think that the achievement was down to hurling training but found the headline funny.

As I said above, great achievement

Itziger · 27-07-2015 9:03am

135 mile Badwater starting in Death Valley tomorrow. 'Our own' Carta is in the field this year. Wish him all the best, especially given the last two bits of news I saw about his prep on social media.

Whiskey shots prior to flying out West and forgetting to pack shorts.

Gotta love the lad. Give it your best shot P and come home safe.

belcarra · 27-07-2015 9:20am

Itziger wrote: »

135 mile Badwater starting in Death Valley tomorrow. 'Our own' Carta is in the field this year. Wish him all the best, especially given the last two bits of news I saw about his prep on social media.

Whiskey shots prior to flying out West and forgetting to pack shorts.

Gotta love the lad. Give it your best shot P and come home safe.

Who did he play Hurling for?;)

ThisRegard · 27-07-2015 10:15am

kit3 wrote: »

but found the headline funny.

Me too, don't know why they didn't just say "Cork man wins....... ".

Itziger · 27-07-2015 11:08am

belcarra wrote: »

Who did he play Hurling for?;)

That's a very good question Bel. Unfortunately the family are Na Piarsiagh (SP?) I believe, our closest rivals - We're Glen Rovers ourselves although incredibly two of my sisters married into that crowd. Don't know if Carta ever really played the stuff, went Stateside young enough.

(I understand your question was tongue in cheek but decided to respond anyway)

Not sure he'll be thinking of hurling training as he winds his way up the last 'hill'.

ultraman1 · 27-07-2015 8:29pm

http://www.zwittyultra.com/remember-you-paid-to-be-in-this-race-daves-blog/2015-badwater-135-preview
best of luck carta
Follow him here and he is in the elite start

ultraman1 · 27-07-2015 8:37pm

http://dbase.adventurecorps.com/individualTd.php?e=5476

menoscemo · 27-07-2015 8:39pm

Did the Irish Rocky Meet the Polish Rocky at the Spartathlon last year?

ultraman1 · 27-07-2015 8:42pm

menoscemo wrote: »

Did the Irish Rocky Meet the Polish Rocky at the Spartathlon last year?

Yea .polish Rocky battered Irish rocky by about 9hrs...

Jotunheim · 28-07-2015 10:03am

ThisRegard wrote: »

Me too, don't know why they didn't just say "Cork man wins....... ".

I thought the headline made sense. Identifying him as a hurler brought a different angle to people's understanding of his achievement by getting the attention of people who had little or no interest in running, never mind ultras, and vice versa would have caught they eye of runners who wouldn't know hurling. It also gives a headline biography to the man, shows his level of proven ability in two different sports.

ultranewbie · 28-07-2015 1:54pm

Hey - just checking in here. I am new to Ultra but would be faster than most of the lads in it. Iam looking to break some Irish records over the next few months. Anyone have a suggestion of the softest ones?

ultranewbie · 28-07-2015 1:55pm

Sorry just to be clear I realise they are all pretty soft tbf

Enduro · 28-07-2015 2:42pm

ultranewbie wrote: »

Sorry just to be clear I realise they are all pretty soft tbf

Go for the 24 hour. That's really easy.

Edit:

Although, given your obvious talent, you're showing a real lack of ambition by just looking at something as soft as the Irishr records. Surely world records would be a more worthy target for a man of your obvious talent.

happygoose · 28-07-2015 3:00pm

ultranewbie wrote: »

Sorry just to be clear I realise they are all pretty soft tbf

Why run far when you can run fast?

menoscemo · 28-07-2015 3:52pm

Itziger wrote: »

That's a very good question Bel. Unfortunately the family are Na Piarsiagh (SP?) I believe, our closest rivals - We're Glen Rovers ourselves although incredibly two of my sisters married into that crowd. Don't know if Carta ever really played the stuff, went Stateside young enough.

(I understand your question was tongue in cheek but decided to respond anyway)

Not sure he'll be thinking of hurling training as he winds his way up the last 'hill'.

I presume this is the man himself?

http://www.the42.ie/irish-man-running-badwater-135-2237593-Jul2015/

Runner Mojo · 28-07-2015 4:26pm

I'd like to push my distance out from a marathon to an Ultra by the end of the year - any advice for a newbie to the field? (When I say newbie, I mean real newbie)

Jotunheim · 29-07-2015 12:01pm

Runner Mojo wrote: »

(When I say newbie, I mean real newbie)

And when you say real newbie, do you mean to running, to marathons or what are we talking here? You may be one of the cover stars for running mags who claims to go from sofa to Sparta within a week of giving up smoking and fried breakfasts, but much more likely you have a longer journey, like the rest of us, so the advice you want will be better if you say where exactly you are now and how you got there.

Runner Mojo · 29-07-2015 12:10pm

Jotunheim wrote: »

And when you say real newbie, do you mean to running, to marathons or what are we talking here? You may be one of the cover stars for running mags who claims to go from sofa to Sparta within a week of giving up smoking and fried breakfasts, but much more likely you have a longer journey, like the rest of us, so the advice you want will be better if you say where exactly you are now and how you got there.

lol - thanks.. yeah, you are right, I didn't exactly give any details.

I used to run quite a bit. Not very fast, but I have a fair few runs behind me.I am back running after a couple of years absence and at the moment my long runs are hitting around the 10 miles.

I have done a few marathons and am training for Dublin at the moment. Never went over a marathon (or finished one thinking I could keep going any further).

Average pace at the moment on a typical short run is 8:58 min/mile and on long runs, around 9:12 min/mile

Can I pretend I look like a cover model, or do I need to share a pic? ;-)

Anyway - any advice on how I should continue after the marathon would be great, thanks

Jotunheim · 29-07-2015 12:31pm

Runner Mojo wrote: »

I used to run quite a bit. Not very fast, but I have a fair few runs behind me.I am back running after a couple of years absence and at the moment my long runs are hitting around the 10 miles.

The inconsistency and long layoff here would, I think, be your biggest concern. You're now trying to go from 0 to 60 without the platform.

Because of that, my response to this....

Runner Mojo wrote: »

Anyway - any advice on how I should continue after the marathon would be great, thanks

...is wait and see how you get on with the marathon. If you can handle the program for that, injury/burnout free and you're still enjoying your running, then make your choices and look to find out how to achieve them. You'll have a physical platform and experience to build on, as opposed to where you are now which seems to me to running before you can walk, a phrase that has even more meaning for an ultra.

I don't know what age you are, but like any long distances runners get better as they mature, up to a point, so unless you have a reason to rush giving it a few more months to arm yourself, then a few more after that to train specifically for an ultra seems a lot more sensible to me than setting a short-term target that it both potentially unobtainable and injurious. There are also lots of ultras to choose from, all year 'round, in lots of different places to suit your schedule, budget etc, so no reason to set the calendar year as your target. There's no rush unless you have a good reason to be in one.

Runner Mojo wrote: »

Can I pretend I look like a cover model, or do I need to share a pic? ;-)

That's what private messages are for, hit me and we'll take it from there :pac:

Good luck with the marathon and enjoy it.

Runner Mojo · 29-07-2015 12:42pm

Jotunheim wrote: »

The inconsistency and long layoff here would, I think, be your biggest concern. You're now trying to go from 0 to 60 without the platform.

Because of that, my response to this....

...is wait and see how you get on with the marathon. If you can handle the program for that, injury/burnout free and you're still enjoying your running, then make your choices and look to find out how to achieve them. You'll have a physical platform and experience to build on, as opposed to where you are now which seems to me to running before you can walk, a phrase that has even more meaning for an ultra.

I don't know what age you are, but like any long distances runners get better as they mature, up to a point, so unless you have a reason to rush giving it a few more months to arm yourself, then a few more after that to train specifically for an ultra seems a lot more sensible to me than setting a short-term target that it both potentially unobtainable and injurious. There are also lots of ultras to choose from, all year 'round, in lots of different places to suit your schedule, budget etc, so no reason to set the calendar year as your target. There's no rush unless you have a good reason to be in one.

That's what private messages are for, hit me and we'll take it from there :pac:

Good luck with the marathon and enjoy it.

I'm 44 ( I think) and although I said after the marathon, I was kinda looking at more, how to keep going and start adding mileage, if that makes sense. But anyway - I think you are right - I was looking at a couple of possible races but maybe I should think in terms of getting capable of the distances first. I'll come back and wait outside the temple after I get the marathon done.

Sending PM with Photoshopped Mens Health pic now... :-)

ultraman1 · 30-07-2015 10:42am

ultraman1 wrote: »

http://dbase.adventurecorps.com/individualTd.php?e=5476

P seems to have stopped ...race was won in 23:27
Polish Rocky pulled up

belcarra · 30-07-2015 10:57am

ultraman1 wrote: »

P seems to have stopped ...race was won in 23:27
Polish Rocky pulled up

Is it not still going?
Only 4 have finished so far and Marshall Ulrich is only 6 positions ahead of Carta.
http://dbase.adventurecorps.com/results.php?bw_eid=74&bwr=Go

ultraman1 · 30-07-2015 11:23am

belcarra wrote: »

Is it not still going?
Only 4 have finished so far and Marshall Ulrich is only 6 positions ahead of Carta.
http://dbase.adventurecorps.com/results.php?bw_eid=74&bwr=Go

Hence I said stopped as couple of dudes have reach next check point dat were around him at last poi t,hopefully there soon....me fone is focked refreshing it

Alfie Tupper · 30-07-2015 11:42am

I reckon he's still going.
He reached the 72 mile checkpoint just before 3am and the last person recorded to have passed the next checkpoint at 90 miles took 9 hours to get there.
Hopefully I'm right.

ultraman1 · 30-07-2015 2:26pm

belcarra wrote: »

Is it not still going?
Only 4 have finished so far and Marshall Ulrich is only 6 positions ahead of Carta.
http://dbase.adventurecorps.com/results.php?bw_eid=74&bwr=Go

Just hit the 92 mile c/p at 28 hrs

Alfie Tupper · 30-07-2015 2:38pm

ultraman1 wrote: »

Just hit the 92 mile c/p at 28 hrs

8.17 for the last section, 18 miles.

ultraman1 · 30-07-2015 2:44pm

Alfie Tupper wrote: »

8.17 for the last section, 18 miles.

prob had a kip....

ultraman1 · 30-07-2015 9:51pm

Throo 122 mile cp at 38 hrs....10 miles left

menoscemo · 30-07-2015 9:54pm

ultraman1 wrote: »

Throo 122 mile cp at 38 hrs....10 miles left

has the course changed? I thought it used to be a 30 hour cut off?

Alfie Tupper · 30-07-2015 10:18pm

32 miles in a little under 10 hours now just the small matter of this to go

"Lone Pine (3610′), Mile 122.7 (Time Station #5)
Lone Pine offers the weary runner and crew all the amenities of a real town: fast food, pizza, restaurants, motels, gas stations, grocery stores, and more, not to mention our Race Headquarters at the Dow Villa. Restock here for the climb to Whitney Portal. Turn left onto the Whitney Portal Road to begin the final leg, the longest and steepest climb of the race (13 miles with 5000 feet of elevation gain). After the turn from Hwy 395, it’s 8.4 miles to Time Station #6, located at the start of the switchbacks. Temperatures will steadily decrease during the ascent (though depending on time of day). Be prepared with extra layers of clothing and rain gear the final few miles; at night it can approach freezing temperature. Be sure your support vehicle is always parked completely off of the road and that you do not block traffic, even for a moment.

Mt. Whitney Trailhead, (8360’), Mile 135
Congratulations! You have finished the world’s toughest foot race! "

Good luck Carta

_Tombstone_ · 30-07-2015 10:27pm

Is a Boardie running in this or who are we rooting for???

TFBubendorfer · 31-07-2015 9:20am

menoscemo wrote: »

has the course changed? I thought it used to be a 30 hour cut off?

Badwater always had a 48 hours cut-off time as far as I can remember back.
Maybe you're thinking of Western States? They have a 30 hours cut-off.

Alfie Tupper · 31-07-2015 9:43am

He has finished but I don't have any times as they aren't updating the results page for some reason.

It is one hell of an achievement, so not only is he a Badwater 135 finisher but as Tommy Tiernan's joke went " more importantly he's from Cork"

Congratulations Carta.

opus · 31-07-2015 12:17pm

He's made it into 'de paper' as well today

Some achievement to complete that event!

CORKMAN COMPLETES 217KM ULTRA MARATHON

belcarra · 31-07-2015 12:54pm

opus wrote: »

He's made it into 'de paper' as well today Some achievement to complete that event!

CORKMAN COMPLETES 217KM ULTRA MARATHON

Why wasn't that heading just "MAN COMPLETES 217KM ULTRA MARATHON"??:pac:

Well done Carta!!

kit3 · 31-07-2015 1:28pm

belcarra wrote: »

Why wasn't that heading just "MAN COMPLETES 217KM ULTRA MARATHON"??:pac:

Well done Carta!!

Guess he was never a hurler then :rolleyes:

Well done Carta !

Edit - posted before I read the article about his GAA background !

ultraman1 · 02-08-2015 10:33am

http://www.6jours-de-france.fr/
Eddie gallen takin on the 6 day race,,,for the craic ,so he says

ThisRegard · 03-08-2015 9:47am

The Journal today has another article on Paul Tierney, again leading the headline with "former Cork hurler" instead of say "Top Irish athlete.....".

Pretty comprehensive interview in fairness which does cover his GAA career, some pretty dopey comments, as is par for the course with the Journal "The former Cork hurler who swapped All-Ireland medals for 100-mile trail runs"
http://the42.ie/2250095
Imagine the amount of column inches Enduro would have got over years had he played hurling or football at even minor level ☺

Cabaal · 08-08-2015 8:04am

Connemara 100 started this morning,
Updates and photos can be seen at https://www.facebook.com/connemara100

Hope the rain stays away for the lads,

DogSlySmile · 28-08-2015 9:01pm

Richard Donovan is running across America.... and he considers it a training run!

Ron Gomall · 01-09-2015 5:31pm

Am a newbie to ultra running, got 2 x 50kms done & want to run further. All training & nutrition info welcome. I came across this training blog of a runner trying to break some Irish records - may be interesting as the weeks/ months pass
Here's the link https://therunningmaster.wordpress.com, I don't know if he's on here as well.
Any good training plans for a first attempt at 50miles/80km ?

ger664 · 01-09-2015 7:42pm

Ron Gomall wrote: »

Here's the link https://therunningmaster.wordpress.com, I don't know if he's on here as well.

:eek:

ultraman1 · 01-09-2015 9:28pm

Ron Gomall wrote: »

training blog of a runner trying to break some Irish records - ma

Sure everyone knows the irish records are quite soft,shud be easy...

Ron Gomall · 01-09-2015 9:33pm

ultraman1 wrote: »

Sure everyone knows the irish records are quite soft,shud be easy...

They don't look easy to me, records are there for a reason !... Because someone went further/ faster than anyone else, running 100miles in 13,14 or 15 hours depending on terrain ain't easy

Am looking forward to learning about the training plans & diet/ nutrition. Have heard so much about fat adaption but not sure whether it takes 3months, 6m, 12m or years before risking it in a race

Enduro · 02-09-2015 9:40am

Feckin hell.... Someone is going to the effort of pretending to post as me in the comments in there. Mad stuff!

Enduro · 02-09-2015 9:44am

Ron Gomall wrote: »

Am looking forward to learning about the training plans & diet/ nutrition. Have heard so much about fat adaption but not sure whether it takes 3months, 6m, 12m or years before risking it in a race

If you really want to learn then best to learn from a qualified expert... worth getting some consultation from the likes of Barry Murray at Optimimum nutrition 4 sport.

As for training plans... there are probably as many ultra training plans as there are ultra runners. Which 80K race are you targetting?

Itziger · 02-09-2015 10:08am

ger664 wrote: »

:eek:

So how many of ye clicked on the link?????

ultraman1 · 02-09-2015 5:20pm

http://ultra168.com/2015/09/02/whats-with-the-utmb-dnf/

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