Scumbags knock cyclist of bike Video mod warning post 50

rubberdiddies · 27-07-2015 10:55am

haven't seen the video because the link is down and probably better off not seeing it.

however I have been seeing an increasing amount of 'violence' videos on Facebook lately that turn out to be staged. People simply doing it just for like and shares.

i hope this is the case here

Jawgap · 27-07-2015 10:58am

I think the lad's facebook profile has gone.

tomasrojo · 27-07-2015 10:58am

wingnut wrote: »

Another recent case - what the hell is wrong with these people. Given the potential injuries I think 10 months was lenient. Banned from driving for five years but we all know how well driving bans are enforced here.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/man-who-pushed-boy-off-bicycle-sentenced-to-10-months-in-jail-1.2264289

Think that's the same case mentioned a few posts back.

wingnut · 27-07-2015 10:59am

Words can't express how badly I want the perpetrators to face consequences for their actions. Haven't seen the video either as its down now.

beyondbelief67 · 27-07-2015 11:03am

Last night when I had looked at the video there were some comments on it stating he had copied them and what they had done.
A quick look on those lads pages and you would never of thought they could do anything like that, nothing on their page to indicate they would find that kind of thing fun at all, unlike the person who posted it
Also when Facebook sends the response that something doesn't breach there rules. There is a part on the message where you can appeal and put into proper words why you think it should be removed. That worked for me a few times.

Jawgap · 27-07-2015 11:04am

Stickybottle have a photo sequence from the video

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/video-taunting-thugs-push-cyclist-into-ditch-from-moving-car-as-they-film/

brooke 2 · 27-07-2015 11:37am

wingnut wrote: »

Words can't express how badly I want the perpetrators to face consequences for their actions. Haven't seen the video either as its down now.

Well, as the guy was so wrapped up in his own 'bravado' as to upload the video under his own name, the Gardai should have little problem in tracking him down, if they so wish. Let's hope this has happened!! Reminds me of the time the lads uploaded the video of their pals taking part in a sulky race on a public road a few years ago! How witless are they to do it on their own FB pages!! Goes to show how 'untouchable' they feel they are.

check_six · 27-07-2015 11:41am

Imagine having to get back on the road after that incident. You'd be a bag of nerves. In your mind every single car that passed you could have another gang of lunatic scumbags in it. That horrible case of the 13 year old getting shoved off his bike in a similar manner mentioned that the poor lad struggles to go out on the bike at all if he's not in a group.

The potential for getting really badly banged up is huge. What kind of moron could contemplate actually carrying out a sociopathic attack like this?

Dcully · 27-07-2015 11:49am

Video is up again now, absolute morons.

randomname2005 · 27-07-2015 11:50am

check_six wrote: »

The potential for getting really badly banged up is huge. What kind of moron could contemplate actually carrying out a sociopathic attack like this?

What kind of group of morons - this is not just one person, it required a group effort and nobody in the car thought it was a bad idea, out of the at least 3 people ( driver, shover and camera person) there.

I wonder what kind of bull crap excuse would be brought up if this went to court.

Charlie19 · 27-07-2015 11:52am

It's being discussed on 98fm at the moment, apparently the guy is OK which is good news. It happened in Derry according to one of the callers.

tomasrojo · 27-07-2015 11:54am

randomname2005 wrote: »

What kind of group of morons - this is not just one person, it required a group effort and nobody in the car thought it was a bad idea, out of the at least 3 people ( driver, shover and camera person) there.

I find that group behaviour often aligns with the attitudes of the stupidest person in the group.

randomname2005 · 27-07-2015 11:55am

tomasrojo wrote: »

I find that group behaviour often aligns with the attitudes of the stupidest person in the group.

Unfortunately true

Dcully · 27-07-2015 11:55am

The guy in some part involved is having a good laugh on his FB page about it all and 98fm discussing it.
Blood boiling here.

check_six · 27-07-2015 11:59am

randomname2005 wrote: »

What kind of group of morons - this is not just one person, it required a group effort and nobody in the car thought it was a bad idea, out of the at least 3 people ( driver, shover and camera person) there.

I wonder what kind of bull crap excuse would be brought up if this went to court.

This is a good point. That previous case in Monaghan with the 13 year old only lists one person convicted of the crime (Thomas McCarron, Killydreen, Emyvale, Monaghan). He got a 10 month sentence. I would have thought you'd need at least two people to carry out this kind of attack so it looks like Thomas' accomplice got away with it. You'd like to see the whole group in court to answer for their actions.

jon1981 · 27-07-2015 12:03pm

There would be a serious attempt of eye gouging if someone was to grab hold of my bike leaning out of a car!

Deedsie · 27-07-2015 12:09pm

jon1981 wrote: »

There would be a serious attempt of eye gouging if someone was to grab hold of my bike leaning out of a car!

I'd like to think the same but you'd be afraid you would end up under a wheel of the car or something. Best bet is to hit the breaks and try get the registration/description of the car. Phone AGS straight away saying the direction they are travelling.

That dickhead is just laughing at the fact it is being discussed on radio is really pissing me off. Surely someone will have reported him to AGS/PSNI etc? Whoever dragged him up will have surely seen it by now?

jon1981 · 27-07-2015 12:11pm

Deedsie wrote: »

I'd like to think the same but you'd be afraid you would end up under a wheel of the car or something. Best bet is to hit the breaks and try get the registration/description of the car. Phone AGS straight away saying the direction they are travelling.

That dickhead is just laughing at the fact it is being discussed on radio is really pissing me off. Surely someone will have reported him to AGS/PSNI etc? Whoever dragged him up will have surely seen it by now?

in reality I probably wouldn't have that instinctive reaction. However, I am seriously considering a go-pro cam of some sorts. There are too many bad incidents of late and I think capturing the evidence (and surviving) is probably the more important thing to focus on.

(would still love to gouge their eyes out though

)

tomasrojo · 27-07-2015 12:12pm

Also, don't think they grabbed the bike. Just shoved the cyclist. If you weren't aware they were about to do it, you would have no choice but to fall.

Johnny Jukebox · 27-07-2015 12:24pm

Hopefully there is some cycling blackhat out there who will take umbrage and follow the cyber trail...

STB. · 27-07-2015 12:27pm

The guy who posted it on his FB page certainly like taking pictures of himself!

#gangsta

Falcon L · 27-07-2015 12:33pm

kstand wrote: »

No country does scumbags quite like Ireland. The most feral sociopaths in the world.

You need to travel a bit. These are just the greater spotted scumbag. In some countries they would follow up the attack with a quick knifing and stealing the bike.

Our scumbags are really just cowardly pussies.

rachaell · 27-07-2015 12:43pm

mamax wrote: »

If it was a pedestrian in the video im sure those idiots who liked it and found it funny on Facebook would react differently, why ? Because it could be anyone it happens to next, not just cyclists.

Nearly six thousand people liked this video. Why the hell would you like a video like this one that nearly kills someone??

sconhome · 27-07-2015 12:43pm

This is a despicable act and there are several people on this board who have experienced similar behaviour from drivers, either this carry on or hit 7 run incidents.

This guy obviously doesn't give a flying fvck about anyone and should be dealt with severely. In the comments he clearly regrets his actions

<snip>

Any obstacle in that ditch, a wall, tree, lamp-pot, fence and that cyclist is lucky if they only end up in hospital. Quite likely life changing injuries at the least.

I'm not sure but doesn't there have to be an official complaint from the person that was assaulted in order for the Garda to do anything about this? Attempted manslaughter at the very least.

What a waste of matter these people are. :mad:

Lumen · 27-07-2015 12:46pm

The spelling and grammar alone are enough to warrant a public stoning.

lawred2 · 27-07-2015 12:47pm

sad pathetic scumbags

they have nothing to offer other than vindictive shoite like this

Lord TSC · 27-07-2015 12:59pm

Jaysus.

Was driving through town yesterday when I saw a bunch of idiots like this throw what looked to be a paper cup full of tea out the window right into the fact of a biker. Thought that was horrid.

But that video is despicable. "Wh-hey, I tried to kill a guy". Would love to see the Gardai take him down.

cython · 27-07-2015 1:01pm

AKW wrote: »

This is a despicable act and there are several people on this board who have experienced similar behaviour from drivers, either this carry on or hit 7 run incidents.

This guy obviously doesn't give a flying fvck about anyone and should be dealt with severely. In the comments he clearly regrets his actions

<snip>

Any obstacle in that ditch, a wall, tree, lamp-pot, fence and that cyclist is lucky if they only end up in hospital. Quite likely life changing injuries at the least.

I'm not sure but doesn't there have to be an official complaint from the person that was assaulted in order for the Garda to do anything about this? Attempted manslaughter at the very least.

What a waste of matter these people are. :mad:

Based on a post up the thread, this seems to have happened in Derry, so probably strictly speaking it's the PSNI's responsibility, and the Gardai can only act in response to inquiries/contact from them. A part of me is cynical enough to think that these scrotes knew that when they did this, but then the other part reckons that's giving too much credit to the complete wastes of oxygen responsible for actually videoing and posting that!

Charlie19 wrote: »

It's being discussed on 98fm at the moment, apparently the guy is OK which is good news. It happened in Derry according to one of the callers.

lawred2 · 27-07-2015 1:02pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Jaysus.

Was driving through town yesterday when I saw a bunch of idiots like this throw what looked to be a paper cup full of tea out the window right into the fact of a biker. Thought that was horrid.

But that video is despicable. "Wh-hey, I tried to kill a guy". Would love to see the Gardai take him down.

he'd be back on the street being celebrated by his 'friends' before the day was out..

Lord TSC · 27-07-2015 1:07pm

lawred2 wrote: »

he'd be back on the street being celebrated by his 'friends' before the day was out..

Welcome to Ireland, I guess

Knasher · 27-07-2015 1:20pm

I've had somebody grab my arm while overtaking in a car in traffic all right. They didn't try and hold on, but I'm lucky I didn't fall off the bike. So nothing as bad as what this video showed. The idiots who did it to me, did it right before a red traffic light, and I'm not sure what I would have done if I had caught up to them. But they saw me coming, so they ran the traffic light turned left, and only very narrowly missed a lady pushing her buggy across the road. I guess, in the grand scheme of things, I should be glad that nobody was actually hurt that day.

zurbfoundation · 27-07-2015 1:25pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Welcome to Ireland, I guess

Northern Ireland - it seems it happened up in Derry Londonderry so it looks like a job for the PSNI

ED E · 27-07-2015 1:27pm

zurbfoundation wrote: »

Northern Ireland - it seems it happened up in Derry Londonderry so it looks like a job for the PSNI

Probably a good thing considering how disinterested the Gardai are regarding cyclist safety.

monument · 27-07-2015 1:27pm

zurbfoundation wrote: »

Northern Ireland - it seems it happened up in Derry Londonderry so it looks like a job for the PSNI

Where was that mentioned?

893bet · 27-07-2015 1:34pm

Whats the point of taking a photo of yourself in the mirror giving yourself the finger?

Basically telling yourself to **** off like.

Charlie19 · 27-07-2015 1:34pm

monument wrote: »

Where was that mentioned?

Charlie19 wrote: »

It's being discussed on 98fm at the moment, apparently the guy is OK which is good news. It happened in Derry according to one of the callers.

She seemed genuine enough and said that she was in contact with the cyclists daughter and he is ok.

Bloggsie · 27-07-2015 1:37pm

My wife showed me a video this morning posted on FB by some "hero" who pushed over a cyclist while breaking his A**e laughing, if its the same one as this the one mentioned in this thread, be it in N. Ireland or the ROI they clearly intended to do it and as such the PSNI or the Guards have a responsibility to find them and prosecute them. The argument here can be for what level of prosecution, GBH, attempted manslaughter etc. I am sure that both law enforcement agencies would have the technical smarts to locate the scumbags who did this!

bucketybuck · 27-07-2015 1:41pm

Just had a look at the Facebook page of this <snip> chap.

Dear god what a tool. The state of him in those pictures.

tomasrojo · 27-07-2015 1:42pm

I assume it's assault. No-one killed, so not manslaughter. No intention to kill either. But it should be treated as assault and dealt with severely.

Neil3030 · 27-07-2015 1:46pm

Jesus the fella in the video sounds exactly like Oisin McConville!!

sconhome · 27-07-2015 1:51pm

tomasrojo wrote: »

I assume it's assault. No-one killed, so not manslaughter. No intention to kill either. But it should be treated as assault and dealt with severely.

Assault at the very least.

The actions were premeditated and the intent was there to carry out the act. It was purely down to luck that there was nothing in that ditch that could have killed that cyclist.

You can be sure the car didn't scout the road to make sure it was clear of obstacles before timing their run to coincide with a clear piece of ditch.

Moflojo · 27-07-2015 1:58pm

Is it too much to ask for public lashings to be introduced for crimes such as this?

Would love to see how funny these lads would find it to receive 20 lashes of a bamboo cane on their bare arses.

Put it on Pay per View and use the proceeds to build better bike lanes...

CatFromHue · 27-07-2015 2:01pm

I presume this has been posted

A motorist, who reached out and pushed a 13-year-old schoolboy from a bicycle as he was driving past, has been jailed for 10 months.
Thomas McCarron (22) of Killydreen, Emyvale, Co Monaghan, pleaded guilty to a charge of assaulting and causing harm to Conor McKenna, the young cyclist, who was training at the time on a roadway near Emyvale village in preparation for an Ulster Championship cycling competition.
The boy’s father, Richard McKenna, told Judge Denis McLoughlin at Monaghan District Court that his son was severely injured in the incident on June 23rd last year and was taken to Monaghan General Hospital and later transferred to Cavan General Hospital.
He added that McCarron had “shown no remorse for his action on the day and never apologised”.
An apology was tendered by McCarron in court for what he told the judge was “a stupid action”.
Sentencing McCarron, Judge McLoughlin also banned him from driving for five years, and directed that he make a payment of €1,000 to the boy.

Eamonnator · 27-07-2015 2:04pm

Lumen wrote: »

The spelling and grammar alone are enough to warrant a public stoning.

And filming the sequence in Portrait, what does that deserve?

tomasrojo · 27-07-2015 2:05pm

AKW wrote: »

Assault at the very least.

The actions were premeditated and the intent was there to carry out the act. It was purely down to luck that there was nothing in that ditch that could have killed that cyclist.

You can be sure the car didn't scout the road to make sure it was clear of obstacles before timing their run to coincide with a clear piece of ditch.

Being completely indifferent to someone's safety isn't the same as attempting to kill them, although it is very serious. The act was obviously premeditated, but that doesn't mean any extreme adverse outcome (such as death or incapacitation) would be regarded as premeditated as well. I guess partly it would hinge on whether a judge thought the intention was to amuse by humiliating another person or by hurting them.

(I'm not a lawyer.)

jackofalltrades · 27-07-2015 2:09pm

Pure scumbagary.

Hopefully posting the video online will provide enough evidence for a conviction.
Would love to see the driver getting some sort of penalty as well for being a party to this.

Deedsie · 27-07-2015 2:30pm

I'd have this would be a hit and run case?

DirkVoodoo · 27-07-2015 2:39pm

What's worse, if the Gardai/PSNI do nothing, to me they are just as culpable.

Basically, any scumbags looking at this think: "This is great, loads of attention, media reports, my mates think I'm a legend, look at how many likes my video got...and not a single consequence"

And go off and start doing it themselves. This could become some unfortunate and dangerous viral trend amongst the scrotes.

Come on lads, pull your socks up and nip this one in the bud before someone gets hurt!

omri · 27-07-2015 2:40pm

Perhaps once this guy is located by Gardai or PSNI, the RTE could sponsor an educational program about possible injuries that a cyclist can sustain when pushed off the bike. I would strongly suggest he was given a bike, told to do 20kmph and a volunteer could push this fella of the path between fairview and howth (on the sea side of the path). All infront of cameras including immediate autopsy by the state pathologist. Before this "season finale" the public could vote should that guy wear a helmet or not, and then the Gardai or DPP could explain the possible charges such a person could face for that type of crime.

radia · 27-07-2015 2:49pm

Might get away with deciding on the helmet by a vote, but he'd definitely need to have high vis, and reflectors on front, rear and both wheels to satisfy the gardaí/RSA.

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