Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

padraig.od · 01-07-2015 09:54AM

Eircom subbies pulling fibre in my estate in Kilkenny (Newpark area) this morning. I'm moving out next month

fibrefreak · 01-07-2015 09:55PM

syboit wrote: »

I might have missed it somewhere, but whats the plan with the last 20/30 feet getting into your house ? I know in my case there is a black trunk coming up inside the door, which is behind the skirting board. Would they try to feed the fibre through the same duct as the copper pair wire ?

Yes, the whole idea is to use existing routes, otherwise you would have to dig up your drive. They have had problems in the trial areas with collapsed ducts (as has Siro) - somebody is going to have to pay in those cases

bk · 02-07-2015 12:16AM

fibrefreak wrote: »

Yes, the whole idea is to use existing routes, otherwise you would have to dig up your drive. They have had problems in the trial areas with collapsed ducts (as has Siro) - somebody is going to have to pay in those cases

Or they will use G.Fast from the pole/node.

notahappycamper · 02-07-2015 01:36PM

bk wrote: »

Or they will use G.Fast from the pole/node.

Apart from apartments I wonder how will they decide who gets G.Fast and who will get FTTH directly into their property?

bk · 02-07-2015 03:44PM

notahappycamper wrote: »

Apart from apartments I wonder how will they decide who gets G.Fast and who will get FTTH directly into their property?

I assume it will come down to the cost of running fibre right into the premises. Easy jobs where they can run the fiber overhead or through an existing dust, then probably direct fiber.

If the duct is collapsed and would otherise require digging up a yard/garden/path/driveway then they will probably opt for G.Fast.

ED E · 02-07-2015 04:20PM

Long term eircom are going to want to retire the copper plant, GFast makes that messy. What if at a 6 home DP 5 opt for FTTH and the 6th has a collapsed ug duct? Not worth deploying a node for one customer I suspect. They'll just do what they do now for new lines and say theyll come back when the duct is ready and accessible to them.

Outside apartments I dont see GFast getting any mileage.

notahappycamper · 02-07-2015 05:28PM

As regards say the other parts of Dublin not on the FTTH list, can we speculate that they won't get FTTH until after 2020?

PeadarB · 02-07-2015 06:04PM

bk wrote: »

I assume it will come down to the cost of running fibre right into the premises. Easy jobs where they can run the fiber overhead or through an existing dust, then probably direct fiber.

If the duct is collapsed and would otherise require digging up a yard/garden/path/driveway then they will probably opt for G.Fast.

I would expect that the current ducts in modern housing estates and pole fed DPs would be utilised by eircom, where possible, to feed fibre directly to premises. The older houses, circa 1985, where we live in Letterkenny for instance, are fed via POTS from a central pole serving 8 to 12 houses a time. Our pole in turn is serviced by a duct, which leads back to a ducted junction box which now has the new micro-duct in place. This micro-duct is no more than 6 or 8mm thick so should be relatively easy to shove through the present system.

I've tried, unsuccessfully, to get additional info re this from the eircom crowd on Boards. It now seems that Letterkenny is not in the frame at all for FTTH, or so the eircom Boardsies say!!! :rolleyes:

I'm well out of contract now. Siroooooooo... where are you!!!

syboit · 03-07-2015 09:57AM

jca wrote: »

There's an awful lot of activity here in Enniscorrhy K N vans everywhere. The fibre cabinet on top of bohreen hill has grown a new top.

noticed the same "extension" on the top of our local cabinet. I would suspect its for extra efibre customers. I remember some-one in another thread had the specs on the cabinet and how much users it could take, wonder how many more the extension gives, or is it for ftth.

joe_99 · 03-07-2015 12:11PM

PeadarB wrote: »

I've tried, unsuccessfully, to get additional info re this from the eircom crowd on Boards. It now seems that Letterkenny is not in the frame at all for FTTH, or so the eircom Boardsies say!!! :rolleyes:

Letterkenny is most definitely in the frame for FTTH from eircom. I reckon it'll be one of the first towns to get it.

PeadarB · 03-07-2015 09:53PM

joe_99 wrote: »

Letterkenny is most definitely in the frame for FTTH from eircom. I reckon it'll be one of the first towns to get it.

I'm well aware that it's almost ready in Letterkenny Joe. I suspect Eircom CSRs and the Eircom folks on Boards are being kept in the dark or simply don't know what the current position is

.

http://www.boards.ie/ttfpost/96080735

ED E · 03-07-2015 10:43PM

PeadarB wrote: »

I'm well aware that it's almost ready in Letterkenny Joe. I suspect Eircom CSRs and the Eircom folks on Boards are being kept in the dark or simply don't know what the current position is .

http://www.boards.ie/ttfpost/96080735

This is the great schism. CSRs are retail, wholesale know whats going on but won't talk to you. Just gotta wait till they publish that its live.

Nollog · 03-07-2015 10:46PM

joe_99 wrote: »

Letterkenny is most definitely in the frame for FTTH from eircom. I reckon it'll be one of the first towns to get it.

PeadarB wrote: »

I'm well aware that it's almost ready in Letterkenny Joe. I suspect Eircom CSRs and the Eircom folks on Boards are being kept in the dark or simply don't know what the current position is .

http://www.boards.ie/ttfpost/96080735

Sounds good to me, just moved there.

PeadarB · 03-07-2015 11:29PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

Sounds good to me, just moved there.

Welcome to the party

notahappycamper · 07-07-2015 09:44AM

notahappycamper wrote: »

As regards say the other parts of Dublin not on the FTTH list, can we speculate that they won't get FTTH until after 2020?

Any idea folks on the above?

DoYouEvenLift · 07-07-2015 11:04AM

Is this only launching once all areas have the fibre setup? Or will they just offer it area by area until they're all completed? Or has this already started and some people are already getting Gb Internet here?

Redriddick · 07-07-2015 11:38AM

Whats the story with this??
I live 4-5klm from my exchange and am on 2mb will this improve it???

cunnijo · 07-07-2015 11:54AM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Is this only launching once all areas have the fibre setup? Or will they just offer it area by area until they're all completed? Or has this already started and some people are already getting Gb Internet here?

If I understand correctly Eircom's FTTH services will start to come available as of from August 31st next in 19 of the initial 66 areas listed.

As for SIRO they are saying the autumn for the first 10 towns in their rollout.

godskitchen · 10-07-2015 12:07PM

Some action in Castlebar today from eircom themselves.

Working at a fibre cabinet pulling more fibre or pushing fibre to a housing estate.

First time I have seen any work on the network in ages

Nollog · 10-07-2015 04:10PM

Redriddick wrote: »

Whats the story with this??
I live 4-5klm from my exchange and am on 2mb will this improve it???

Fibre to the home will improve your 2mbps connection speed. You'll go from 2 to 1,000 mbps when it comes to your area.

mobil 222 · 11-07-2015 11:07PM

Id say fibre to the home....over 10 estates in Sligo have been subducted for ftth
Ballaghaderreen and charlestown are been done for fttc
Also backhaul seems to have started fro carrick on shannon to sligo

PeadarB · 14-07-2015 01:04PM

Fibre being blown now in Letterkenny. Per workmen up to half the town now done with sub-duct.

Kilmacrennan Road Letterkenny 140715.jpg

The Cush · 14-07-2015 11:53PM

bk wrote: »

Eircom Wholesale have released the specification details and wholesale pricing of their FTTH products:

http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/news/FTTH_Pricing/

Standalone FTTH Product (Mb/s) - Monthly rental
150/30 €20.50
300/50 €25.50
1000/100 €35.50

POTS based FTTH Product (Mb/s) - Monthly rental
150/30 €6.98
300/50 €11.98
1000/100 €21.98

Note these are the wholesale charges, excluding VAT, etc.

As a comparison VDSL is currently priced at €17.50 and currently increasing to €19.50 (thus the recent Vodafone/Eircom/Sky price increases).

The €19.50 charge leads to a retail price of between, €38 (vodafone VDSL only) to €55 (Eircom including calls etc.).

So 150/30 FTTH should only be about €2 more expensive then their VDSL counterparts, while 1000/100 will have at least a €20 premium.

Also note, that there is a €150 install charge for the ONT, so expect a big up front install fee.

Back in Feb we got the wholesale pricing for FTTH but no retail pricing yet.

Over in the NBP thread a link was posted to the Net1 Packages page with provisional pricing for FTTH. Will the retail pricing from the likes of eircom, Vodafone, Pure Telecom etc. be similar I wonder?

NET1 FIBRE TO THE HOME

• SPEED – 3 packages will be available, 150Mb/s – 300Mb/s and 1Gb/s

• Provisional pricing, €52 / €65 / €99 depending on package

Johnboy1951 · 15-07-2015 12:02AM

For the standalone 1Gb/s FTTH product I see no reason (with competition) that the retail price should be more than ~€65.

Nollog · 15-07-2015 12:29AM

€100 damn.

They did say it'd be a premium product alright.

irishgeo · 15-07-2015 09:47AM

/\/ollog wrote: »

€100 damn.

They did say it'd be a premium product alright.

no they didnt siro did. whats with the low upload speed?

bk · 15-07-2015 09:56AM

irishgeo wrote: »

no they didnt siro did. whats with the low upload speed?

GPON FTTH isn't symmetric, however it is 2:1, so yes the upload speed is much lower then it could be.

I assume Eircom are afraid to make it too attractive to business customers with expensive leased lines.

Hopefully SIRO won't have that concern and would find it attractive to target those leased lines and thus competition should force Eircom to compete better.

murphaph · 15-07-2015 11:48AM

Yeah the whole situation is really dynamic. This stuff could all change overnight, especially pricing! Market share will be what it's all about initially and you can't win market share with high prices acting as a barrier.

DoYouEvenLift · 15-07-2015 11:57AM

If it's €100 the D/U should be 1:1

ED E · 15-07-2015 12:30PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

If it's €100 the D/U should be 1:1

I can see why on paper people would like that, but unless you're hosting a website with high traffic volumes no medium size SME is really gonna push 100Mb US. I'm in the field and rarely push 12Mb US. Even with road warriors dialling in, Exchange running, VOIP node etc you still wont max that.

Its the "Corp" grade customers that will, and they should be on high SLA BIP circuits anyways.

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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