Danny Ward - Is this right?

Mightydrumming · 19-07-2015 09:33PM #1

Spotted this on the oul news feed this evening. Apparantly it took place in Dún Laoghaire Garda station?

Loved the 'hard man' act which left him on the floor... Dope!

Do you think it's right?

https://www.facebook.com/adriankandjeremyd/videos/vb.454739867973243/787027431411150/?type=2&theater

Tin Foil Hat · 19-07-2015 09:35PM

It's assault.

jungleman · 19-07-2015 09:36PM

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Spotted this on the oul news feed this evening. Apparantly it took place in Dún Laoghaire Garda station?

Loved the 'hard man' act which left him on the floor... Dope!

Do you think it's right?

https://www.facebook.com/adriankandjeremyd/videos/vb.454739867973243/787027431411150/?type=2&theater

He's a paedophile and an obvious danger to children, but I don't think anyone should be bullied and assaulted like that. He's a disgusting pervert and they're brain-dead thugs. No-ones a winner, really.

eviltwin · 19-07-2015 09:36PM

Ward was convicted of raping a child wasn't he? He deserves everything he gets.

Charlie19 · 19-07-2015 09:39PM

Those phone in shows are vile. Nothing short of the trash that be on jerry springer.

Tin Foil Hat · 19-07-2015 09:40PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Ward was convicted of raping a child wasn't he? He deserves everything he gets.

We don't live in country where random skangers get to decide what people deserve and to dole out beatings on a whim.

Señor Fancy Pants · 19-07-2015 09:41PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

We don't live in country where random skangers get to decide what people deserve and to dole out beatings on a whim.

No, we live in a country where convicted child rapists are set free.

eviltwin · 19-07-2015 09:43PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

We don't live in country where random skangers get to decide what people deserve and to dole out beatings on a whim.

Don't get me wrong, I don't condone this and I wouldn't support vigilantes but I don't have any sympathy for the bastard.

Mightydrumming · 19-07-2015 10:01PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Ward was convicted of raping a child wasn't he? He deserves everything he gets.

But why should he get the brunt of it? There were 479 rape cases in Ireland in 2010 alone. I can't find a number of child rape cases but I'm sure there are more than a few.

I'm not sticking up for him in any way, shape or form but I don't see the fairness in singling one person out?

19-07-2015 10:07PM

First dig was a cracker in fairness. I'd say the bloke is raging he couldn't edit the slip out of his video. A funny sound effect would've made it better. All in all, I give it a good 7/10.

Streetwalker · 19-07-2015 10:10PM

That slip lol

Richard Hillman · 19-07-2015 10:13PM

Punching somebody and recording it whilst being in a Garda station. Ireland's dumbest criminals right there.

meeeeh · 19-07-2015 10:17PM

I bet the same hero is already or will be some day beating his own child just because... There are people who enjoy beating others, some deck the first person they meet and others like to pretend there is actually some reason behind it.

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Fleawuss · 20-07-2015 12:03AM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

We don't live in country where random skangers get to decide what people deserve and to dole out beatings on a whim.

Unfortunately it has been my experience that we do. We shouldn't. But the reality is a bit different.

Howyanow50 · 20-07-2015 12:03AM

2 scumbags

syklops · 20-07-2015 12:05AM

Alright I'll say it. Where the flip were the guards in all of this?

Taco Chips · 20-07-2015 12:06AM

The Guards have your man in custody. Who the hell does that other knacker think he is to follow him into the station and assault him like that? One is a paedo, the other is a mindless thug. Society is the loser here and no one to be admired. What if that video was used as part of a clemency appeal for Ward?

20-07-2015 12:09AM

syklops wrote: »

Alright I'll say it. Where the flip were the guards in all of this?

They're the ones filming it.

20-07-2015 12:09AM

One is a paedophile scumbag. The other is a violent scumbag. Both scumbags, no matter how you cut it.

Also - you have to wonder about how stupid these people are -

1: You assault someone in a Garda Station
2: You record said assault, with face in full view, and put said video up online.

Hammer89 · 20-07-2015 12:15AM

Firstly, there's nothing big about assaulting somebody who clearly won't fight back. I don't care if it's Danny Ward or Hitler on the receiving end of the punch. It's cowardice. End of.

Secondly, this is absolutely not about justice, or taking the law into your own hands. It's a knacker acting in the knowledge that a) there's a camera on him and b) the subsequent footage will catapult him to 'legendary' status in his community and Facebook. That's what it is, and I'm cringing at the thought of how much praise he's most likely received since this footage has emerged.

In a nutshell, if camera phones and Facebook didn't exist then neither would this incident. Never in a million f*cking years.

conorh91 · 20-07-2015 12:20AM

I'm not defending Danny Ward, but we should probably remember the other character also appears to be in custody in a Garda Station.

I presume he wasn't there to have his passport form stamped.

A certain degree of social stigma is part of the criminal process, but I'd draw the line at assault and battery.

Vigilante justice is the polar opposite of law and order. We have a well trained police force in this country and a regulated justice system. I don't see a role for criminals in that system, they're surplus to requirements in every way. That includes Danny Ward, and Truck Turner there too.

tonycascarino · 20-07-2015 12:22AM

The guy punching is obviously stupid but there's no sympathy from me for the paedophile

thebaz · 20-07-2015 12:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

One is a paedophile scumbag. The other is a violent scumbag. Both scumbags, no matter how you cut it.

yeah but one scumbag is way worse than the other , no matter how you cut it - raping a child , lowest of the lows

pablo128 · 20-07-2015 12:52AM

conorh91 wrote: »

I'm not defending Danny Ward, but we should probably remember the other character also appears to be in custody in a Garda Station.

I presume he wasn't there to have his passport form stamped.

A certain degree of social stigma is part of the criminal process, but I'd draw the line at assault and battery.

Vigilante justice is the polar opposite of law and order. We have a well trained police force in this country and a regulated justice system. I don't see a role for criminals in that system, they're surplus to requirements in every way. That includes Danny Ward, and Truck Turner there too.

I have a 6 yr old daughter. If I met your man and knew he raped a child, there's not a Garda in the country would stop me giving him a good boot in the teeth. Fair play to that chap. I hope if he's prosecuted that the judge goes easy on him.

NachoBusiness · 20-07-2015 01:20AM

Can't find anything online about what this chap Ward did, or how long he served (appreciate that there is a good reason for that) but it kinda makes it hard to have an opinion on the whole thing, or at least an informed one.

I would have thought in this day and age courts could call for these people to be electronically tagged for the rest of their life. I know that wouldn't guarantee that they would not commit a similar crime but at least convicting them and giving them a longer sentence would be a mere formality if evidence of their whereabouts at the time could so easily be verified.

As for these vigilantes. They are almost always scumbags themselves just trying to get a little attention for themselves.

syklops · 20-07-2015 01:21AM

Omackeral wrote: »

They're the ones filming it.

Meanwhile Paudge eats his wagon wheel.

syklops · 20-07-2015 01:24AM

thebaz wrote: »

yeah but one scumbag is way worse than the other , no matter how you cut it - raping a child , lowest of the lows

Which one is more likely to violently kick the sh1t out of you or me while we are wandering down the sea front in Dun Laoighre? Both should be behind bars for a long time.

conorh91 · 20-07-2015 01:35AM

pablo128 wrote: »

I have a 6 yr old daughter. If I met your man and knew he raped a child, there's not a Garda in the country would stop me giving him a good boot in the teeth. Fair play to that chap. I hope if he's prosecuted that the judge goes easy on him.

The same man might easily be the subject of an AH thread next week for being given a lenient sentence for some other offence with a stack of convictions behind him.

Someone will inevitably say "I can't believe you can go to prison for importing garlic and this lad gets off… wha…."

Not being a child abuser doesn't turn a garden variety criminal into the hero.
Not being a common thug or thief doesn't turn a tax evader into the hero.

etc etc etc etc

pablo128 · 20-07-2015 01:40AM

conorh91 wrote: »

The same man might easily be the subject of an AH thread next week for being given a lenient sentence for some other offence with a stack of convictions behind him.

Someone will inevitably say "I can't believe you can go to prison for importing garlic and this lad gets off… wha…."

Not being a child abuser doesn't turn a garden variety criminal into the hero.
Not being a common thug or thief doesn't turn a tax evader into the hero.

etc etc etc etc

I'm not a garden variety criminal, common thug or thief, nor do I regard myself as a hero. Yet I would do the same or more as that chap did.

There are times when you have to make a stand, if for nothing else to dissuade others from doing the same thing.

Danny Ward - Is this right?

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