Caitlyn Jenner ESPN 'courage' award rigged in exchange for exclusive interview

Boring username · 17-07-2015 11:50AM #1

Caitlyn Jenner presented a rousing speech while accepting ESPYS courage award on Wednesday night.

But all was not as it seemed.

Accusations have been made that the award was rigged and Jenner's rep asked ESPN to give her the award in exchange for PR plugs for her new show and an upcoming interview with Diane Sawyer.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/caitlyn-jenner-espys-award-rigged-20150717-giefvc.html

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/caitlyn-jenner-espys-award-demands/

Whatever your opinions on the whole transgender issue, this is utterly pathetic. Although not entirely surprising, considering the mentality of the Jenner and Kardashian clan.

Yes, it was a big personal change for Jenner. But to suggest this was somehow deserving of a bravery award is a farce, an embarrassment, and a disgusting and sneaky thing to do by Caitlyn and her PR people.

They basically hijacked a bravery award for personal gain and publicity.

Now I know there will be those who consider any criticism of transgender people here as transphobic, but this is beyond the pale in my opinion. And fwiw, I would consider myself a supporter of equality. What I don't support is people hijacking legitimate causes for their own agenda.

Previous winners of the Arthur Ashe courage award include Nelson Mandela, Muhammad Ali, Pat and Kevin Tillmann, and the passengers of Flight 93 on 9/11:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ashe_Courage_Award

Do you ever get the feeling you've been had?

Note: Please, please, PLEASE don't let this degenerate into transgender bashing, or loosely throwing about the 'transphobic' label because someone you support is being legitimately criticised on their manipulative actions. We are discussing the actions here of an individual, not their sex or gender.
Thank you.

17-07-2015 11:52AM

If true, then it truly spits in the face of what courage and bravery actually are.

Little CuChulainn · 17-07-2015 11:52AM

It's also important to remember that Jenner killed someone. Hit their car and pushed it into oncoming traffic. This has been forgotten in the hero worship. Should be in jail, not getting an award.

Merces · 17-07-2015 11:59AM

The Kardashian clan are attention whores and total bores. She's not that courageous. Even if she is rejected by friends and family she has the Kardashians and celebrity status as a safety net. Something 99.9% of transsexuals don't have. She also has no financial worries unlike most transexuals who experience a high level of employment discrimination. The award was a joke regardless of whether it was rigging or not.

drunkmonkey · 17-07-2015 12:03PM

Where's Sinead O'Connor when you need her...would love her 2 cent..

17-07-2015 12:06PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Where's Sinead O'Connor when you need her...would love her 2 cent..

Sinéad O'Connor's rant, which was equally as attention seeking, should be rendered null & void when you remember that that very same magazine had a glam picture of the Boston Marathon Bomber on its front cover, making him look like a rock star.

KKkitty · 17-07-2015 12:12PM

While her speech was powerful if it was rigged the organisers should be ashamed of themselves.

Egginacup · 17-07-2015 12:15PM

Boring username wrote: »

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/caitlyn-jenner-espys-award-rigged-20150717-giefvc.html

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/caitlyn-jenner-espys-award-demands/

Whatever your opinions on the whole transgender issue, this is utterly pathetic. Although not entirely surprising, considering the mentality of the Jenner and Kardashian clan.

Yes, it was a big personal change for Jenner. But to suggest this was somehow deserving of a bravery award is a farce, an embarrassment, and a disgusting and sneaky thing to do by Caitlyn and her PR people.

They basically hijacked a bravery award for personal gain and publicity.

Now I know there will be those who consider any criticism of transgender people here as transphobic, but this is beyond the pale in my opinion. And fwiw, I would consider myself a supporter of equality. What I don't support is people hijacking legitimate causes for their own agenda.

Previous winners of the Arthur Ashe courage award include Nelson Mandela, Muhammad Ali, Pat and Kevin Tillmann, and the passengers of Flight 93 on 9/11:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ashe_Courage_Award

Do you ever get the feeling you've been had?

Note: Please, please, PLEASE don't let this degenerate into transgender bashing, or loosely throwing about the 'transphobic' label because someone you support is being legitimately criticised on their manipulative actions. We are discussing the actions here of an individual, not their sex or gender.
Thank you.

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize. Says it all. Nothing is sacred.

foggy_lad · 17-07-2015 12:16PM

Ah sur its America where it's always about the Dollar!

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Sheep Lover · 17-07-2015 12:17PM

"My change of gender wasn't for publicity".....

Gatling · 17-07-2015 12:19PM

Nice op another very thinly veiled let's attack another celebrity thread despite the little mod plea

Gatling · 17-07-2015 12:21PM

Egginacup wrote: »

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize. Says it all. Nothing is sacred.

Heard Vladimir Putin demanded it but the noble prize said he had to come out of the closet first

Ant695 · 17-07-2015 12:24PM

My personal take on the whole thing is that if someone wants to change gender go for it it's a personal decision and has no real impact on other people beyond their sensibilities and desire to be offended.
On the other hand I am sick of hearing about jenner not because I have a problem with the decision but because the only way there will be acceptance for things like this is when it isn't a big deal.
He wanted to become a woman now he is great doesn't need to be in the news and it doesn't require a reality show about her going shopping etc... That just puts it in the spotlight and opens it up for hateful people to be ignorant about it.

In relation to the actual award it's a complete disgrace for her to be put into a category with the previous winners of it and shows just how desperate for attention that whole family are.

seamus · 17-07-2015 12:27PM

Egginacup wrote: »

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize. Says it all. Nothing is sacred.

You really hate Obama, don't you?

Anyway, these are private awards given out by ESPN. Not exactly renowned, respected or impartial.

Commercial organisation in profited-motivated decision shocker.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 17-07-2015 12:28PM

He/she is an absolute disgrace. Too much time spent with kris Jenner, the woman who thought it was okay to leak her own daughters porn video

Gatling · 17-07-2015 12:31PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

He/she is an absolute disgrace. Too much time spent with kris Jenner, the woman who thought it was okay to leak her own daughters porn video

And make her family millions in the process

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 17-07-2015 12:32PM

Gatling wrote: »

And make her family millions in the process

The only thing I'd personally love more than millions of dollars is my mother not broadcasting me sucking someone's cock for the whole world to see.

Gatling · 17-07-2015 12:37PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

The only thing I'd personally love more than millions of dollars is my mother not broadcasting me sucking someone's cock for the whole world to see.

It was all planned apparently,
Didn't seem to bother Kim to much I'm just suprised we haven't seen the 3 honeymoon tapes with the 3 husbands

Egginacup · 17-07-2015 12:43PM

Goes to show how venal, vapid and vacuous the "entertainment" / "celebrity" world is out there.

Son Of A Vidic · 17-07-2015 12:43PM

Egginacup wrote: »

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize. Says it all. Nothing is sacred.

What a stain to put on the award. I think the Noble Peace Prize became a complete joke after that.

Penn · 17-07-2015 12:45PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

He/she is an absolute disgrace.

I ask you to punch a 90 year old woman in the face. You do it. Which of us is worse?

Fact is, at this stage it's simply "Accusations have been made...", but even so, which is worse; Jenner (or Jenner's rep) asking ESPN to do it, or ESPN for actually doing it?

Egginacup · 17-07-2015 12:48PM

seamus wrote: »

You really hate Obama, don't you?

Anyway, these are private awards given out by ESPN. Not exactly renowned, respected or impartial.

Commercial organisation in profited-motivated decision shocker.

I'm trying to highlight the meaningless of these awards now if they can be hijacked by money or special interests.

Samaris · 17-07-2015 12:52PM

Bad Horse wrote: »

I ask you to punch a 90 year old woman in the face. You do it. Which of us is worse?

Fact is, at this stage it's simply "Accusations have been made...", but even so, which is worse; Jenner (or Jenner's rep) asking ESPN to do it, or ESPN for actually doing it?

Eh, both are pretty pathetic and very self-entitled. I am pretty fed up with hearing about the whole clan at this stage. I will not attack Jenner for being transgender, or make snarky comments about the Olympic awards won while being in a male body, but I'm quite happy to dislike the person based on their personality and decisions and -if this is true-, it's pretty disgraceful.

I reckon true equality is to be able to have an asshole in the ranks and their actions to not automatically speak for the entire group. -If this is true-, then Jenner's a bit of an asshole.

seamus · 17-07-2015 12:54PM

Egginacup wrote: »

I'm trying to highlight the meaningless of these awards now if they can be hijacked by money or special interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_controversies#Peace

Obama is one of the least controversial recipients of it. One could argue that special interests have been motivating the nobel award for the best part of a century, and Obama's is nothing new.

retro:electro · 17-07-2015 01:00PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

It's also important to remember that Jenner killed someone. Hit their car and pushed it into oncoming traffic. This has been forgotten in the hero worship. Should be in jail, not getting an award.

This. She should be in jail as she is responsible for killing that woman. Also her two youngest were filmed during the week driving recklessly with their feet hanging out the window as the drove around LA. Disgusting family. Wish they would all go away.

Gatling · 17-07-2015 01:09PM

anna080 wrote: »

This. She should be in jail as she is responsible for killing that woman.

Shouldn't there be a trial at least or should it be Straight to jail .
Then again it was a RTA involving multiple vehicles

The Backwards Man · 17-07-2015 01:12PM

Most awards are commercially motivated, a bar I ran once won the Tennent's pub of the year. I could say it was because I am the greatest barman of all time, but in reality it was because we sold the most Tennent's.

NachoBusiness · 17-07-2015 01:20PM

Why was what Kanye West said cut from the end of the video of the award ceremony?

"Yo, Caitlyn, I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you finish, but Frank Maloney went from Peckham boxing promoter to trans woman. One of the most courageous moves of all time! Of all time!! "

RDM_83 again · 17-07-2015 01:26PM

seamus wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_controversies#Peace

Obama is one of the least controversial recipients of it. One could argue that special interests have been motivating the nobel award for the best part of a century, and Obama's is nothing new.

Its always been controversial but Obama was a new low, he hadn't actually done anything when he was nominated. Kissinger was Machiavellian realpolitik player but at least he was doing stuff (good and bad), at the time he was nominated all Obama had done was say "Change" a lot and been African-American.

tonycascarino · 17-07-2015 01:29PM

Wish Bruce Jenner would go away. Too much about him already.

eviltwin · 17-07-2015 01:30PM

I'm a full supporter of transgender rights but I'm so over Caitlyn Jenner. I completely appreciate she's having the time of her life being her true self and making up for lost time but the exploitation of her story is getting ridiculous.

Caitlyn Jenner ESPN 'courage' award rigged in exchange for exclusive interview

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