Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

LuckyLloyd · 16-07-2015 09:19PM

RasTa wrote: »

I don't really see the point in Benteke going to Liverpool, similar to Lukaku going to Everton. Not a sideways move obviously but not a huge step up.

RaaaassssTaaasaa! How's it hanging buddy? I don't think you really believe that post now. I think both scenarios are clearly different:

- step up vs step down
- key man vs squad cover

Still, I'd read a fraction of your post again if I was really bored.

16-07-2015 09:50PM

Utd getting revenge for Moyes sending Evans to Everton

eh i dunno · 16-07-2015 10:37PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Yes he is better than Stones,Stones may go on to be top quality but at this time Evans is the superior player.Evans will be first choice when available.
Jagielka will be 33 in a few weeks so needs replacing soon.2 from Jags,Evans and Stones with Evans/Stones being the long term plan.

Evans better than stones? Stones is a class act and already a far superior player to Evans

RasTa · 16-07-2015 10:50PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

RaaaassssTaaasaa! How's it hanging buddy? I don't think you really believe that post now. I think both scenarios are clearly different:

- step up vs step down
- key man vs squad cover

Still, I'd read a fraction of your post again if I was really bored.

Well is he really going to Liverpool to win trophies? It's a step up from Villa but not a massive one

He'd be a good fit for Arsenal imo but I guess you guys are the only ones willing to match Villa's asking price.

yabadabado · 16-07-2015 10:54PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

Evans better than stones? Stones is a class act and already a far superior player to Evans

Anything to back up these claims that he is far superior to Evans ?

MightyMandarin · 16-07-2015 10:55PM

RasTa wrote: »

Well is he really going to Liverpool to win trophies? It's a step up from Villa but not a massive one

He's coming here to win the league......the league cup, that is :P

Talib Fiasco · 16-07-2015 10:55PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

Evans better than stones? Stones is a class act and already a far superior player to Evans

I agree, he's a real rock at the back.

*gets coat*

eh i dunno · 16-07-2015 11:14PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Anything to back up these claims that he is far superior to Evans ?

I've watched every game that stones played last season and seen enough of Evans in the past 5 years to know who the better player is. Why is Evans moving for 8m and it would take at least 20m to buy stones.

16-07-2015 11:15PM

RasTa wrote: »

Well is he really going to Liverpool to win trophies? It's a step up from Villa but not a massive one

He'd be a good fit for Arsenal imo but I guess you guys are the only ones willing to match Villa's asking price.

That guy eh?

Nobody else wants him. Same as the the other players signed this season.

City and Chelsea don't want him so he's doing a Sterling and using Liverpool as a step to the top

yabadabado · 17-07-2015 12:07AM

eh i dunno wrote: »

I've watched every game that stones played last season and seen enough of Evans in the past 5 years to know who the better player is. Why is Evans moving for 8m and it would take at least 20m to buy stones.

fair play ,are you a season ticket holder with Everton?
I think its fairly obvious why Evans is going for 8m.Surplus to requirements at United and only has 1 year left on his contract.United seldom get good value for out going players.

Ranchu · 17-07-2015 12:45AM

yabadabado wrote: »

Anything to back up these claims that he is far superior to Evans ?

He's probably seen both players play football.

Corholio · 17-07-2015 01:02AM

Stones is a better player than Evans. Evans has regressed while Stones is ever improving. Saying that, I always liked Evans though, always thought he'd become a better player than he has. He could just never completely regularly hold down a place at the back.

17-07-2015 01:18AM

Corholio wrote: »

Stones is a better player than Evans. Evans has regressed while Stones is ever improving. Saying that, I always liked Evans though, always thought he'd become a better player than he has. He could just never completely regularly hold down a place at the back.

Evans is the best CB on the ball currently at United, will look great in a ball playing team like Everton. Gotten a bad reputation because of last season's dodgy start but in the 12 PL games Evans played more than 45 minutes in this season just gone United conceded 5 goals and kept 7 clean sheets. Obviously all not down to him but he did a lot more than people gave him credit for.

Cantona's Collars · 17-07-2015 01:28AM

Liam O wrote: »

Evans is the best CB on the ball currently at United, will look great in a ball playing team like Everton. Gotten a bad reputation because of last season's dodgy start but in the 12 PL games Evans played more than 45 minutes in this season just gone United conceded 5 goals and kept 7 clean sheets. Obviously all not down to him but he did a lot more than people gave him credit for.

Evans problem is simple defending,a long high ball that 99% of defenders will head out causes him nightmares.He also has a tendency to simply give up if a player goes past him.
Yes he's good at carrying the ball out from defence and has great vision and passing but when you can't defend properly that isn't enough.

Winston Payne · 17-07-2015 01:57AM

Evans is weak physically for a centre half, injury prone, never looks a senior player despite the fact that he's twenty seven, and has never really had the spine for the offside trap. Made up to be getting eight million in and seventy grand off the wage bill.

Cantona's Collars · 17-07-2015 07:58AM

Breaking on SSN: Liverpool have triggered Benteke's release clause.

Backstreet Moyes · 17-07-2015 08:08AM

Winston Payne wrote: »

Evans is weak physically for a centre half, injury prone, never looks a senior player despite the fact that he's twenty seven, and has never really had the spine for the offside trap. Made up to be getting eight million in and seventy grand off the wage bill.

How exactly is Evans injury prone besides last season he played 20 + games a season in his United career despite being third choice behind Vidic and Ferdinand for years.

Backstreet Moyes · 17-07-2015 08:11AM

eh i dunno wrote: »

I've watched every game that stones played last season and seen enough of Evans in the past 5 years to know who the better player is. Why is Evans moving for 8m and it would take at least 20m to buy stones.

Because Evans is in his last year of contract, surplus to requirements and United are useless at selling players.

Where are you getting the figure of 20 million from and why are no top clubs looking at him if he is so good.

I suppose being young and English does usually double the price you are actually worth.

17-07-2015 10:32AM

Amazed people think Stones is already better than Evans

LuckyLloyd · 17-07-2015 11:00AM

I don't know, Evans seems to me to be the latest in a long list of Utd players that are supposedly rubbish but yet have contributed strongly on title winning sides.

Lovely Bloke · 17-07-2015 11:01AM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I don't know, Evans seems to me to be the latest in a long list of Utd players that are supposedly rubbish but yet have contributed strongly on title winning sides.

he has been weak and error prone at times though.

Skylinehead · 17-07-2015 11:12AM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Where are you getting the figure of 20 million from and why are no top clubs looking at him if he is so good.

You picked a bad day to post that...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9915820/chelseas-stones-bid-rejected

LuckyLloyd · 17-07-2015 11:13AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

he has been weak and error prone at times though.

So he's not World Class? Sure, I get that. Whether Stones is way better than him seems a lot less certain to me. A club like Utd can probably do better at the position but he's no mug imo.

eh i dunno · 17-07-2015 11:20AM

Skylinehead wrote: »

You picked a bad day to post that...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9915820/chelseas-stones-bid-rejected

Everton wouldn't sell him for 20m. The lad is class act. Could you see Chelsea being interested in Johnny Evans?

Lovely Bloke · 17-07-2015 11:50AM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Whether Stones is way better than him seems a lot less certain to me. A club like Utd can probably do better at the position but he's no mug imo.

I don't care about Stones really, just pointing out that (once again) we are judging a player on whether he's great or shíte - there's never a middle ground with some people.

Alf Veedersane · 17-07-2015 11:54AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

he has been weak and error prone at times though.

More s in the last year or thereabouts. Up until then I wouldn't really have countenanced him being sold.

LuckyLloyd · 17-07-2015 12:06PM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

I don't care about Stones really, just pointing out that (once again) we are judging a player on whether he's great or shíte - there's never a middle ground with some people.

Okay, I don't know why you're arguing with me on this though!!

GavRedKing · 17-07-2015 12:07PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

I've watched every game that stones played last season and seen enough of Evans in the past 5 years to know who the better player is. Why is Evans moving for 8m and it would take at least 20m to buy stones.

Few hours later..............

eh i dunno wrote: »

Everton wouldn't sell him for 20m. The lad is class act. Could you see Chelsea being interested in Johnny Evans?

:pac:

eh i dunno · 17-07-2015 12:21PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Few hours later..............

:pac:

I don't see your point. I said at least 20m which is what Chelsea have bid. Everton don't need to sell so there is no way they will settle for 20m

GavRedKing · 17-07-2015 12:23PM

eh i dunno wrote: »

I don't see your point. I said at least 20m which is what Chelsea have bid. Everton don't need to sell so there is no way they will settle for 20m

Its more the timing of it, TBH, I dont think hes worth much more then 20m but given hes young and English, if Chelsea do want him they'll end up paying about 25-30m.

However, I cant see Everton selling him even if they do sign Evans.

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