Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Winston Payne · 16-07-2015 04:00PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Valdes is good. He had it handy at Barca as he never really had anyone to come in and challenge him. I don't think he would have been number one for so long at another top club, though.

That said, he'd be a handy backup for any top team and would be a good signing for Atleti right now. Oblak still has a way to go and Moya just isn't up to it.

I think LVG is being a dick about the situation, though. Just come out and say he's not needed or you don't want him. Trying to paint him as something he's not is just poor form.

Valdes refused to turn out of the under-21's. That's unacceptable behaviour. Van Gaal also played him in the last game of the season partly to help him move and he's a dick now? How do you figure that?

marklazarcovic · 16-07-2015 04:08PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Brendan Rodgers must have one of the worst records in history in terms of money spent and what he's won

300 million at Liverpool if Benteke goes through

utd have spent that since ferguson retired,and won ????

Iused2likebusts · 16-07-2015 04:09PM

Winston Payne wrote: »

Valdes refused to turn out of the under-21's. That's unacceptable behaviour. Van Gaal also played him in the last game of the season partly to help him move and he's a dick now? How do you figure that?

Or maybe LVG is just flexing his muscles to show the players and the fans he is the main man . It doesnt make much sense to play him in the last game of the season to help him move on if he then says the stuff he said last night. Id imagine there is a bit more to this than we currently know. It could be something like DDG will now be staying for the season.

Winston Payne · 16-07-2015 04:11PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Or maybe LVG is just flexing his muscles to show the players and the fans he is the main man . It doesnt make much sense to play him in the last game of the season to help him move on if he then says the stuff he said last night. Id imagine there is a bit more to this than we currently know. It could be something like DDG will now be staying for the season.

Picking him against Hull was practical more than anything. "See, he's not broken guys!". Clubs will take a chance that his attitude will be better next time.

Rayne Wooney · 16-07-2015 04:23PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

utd have spent that since ferguson retired,and won ????

Two different managers

Sheepy99 · 16-07-2015 04:25PM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

utd have spent that since ferguson retired,and won ????

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RasTa · 16-07-2015 04:32PM

I don't really see the point in Benteke going to Liverpool, similar to Lukaku going to Everton. Not a sideways move obviously but not a huge step up.

HalloweenJack · 16-07-2015 04:34PM

Winston Payne wrote: »

Valdes refused to turn out of the under-21's. That's unacceptable behaviour. Van Gaal also played him in the last game of the season partly to help him move and he's a dick now? How do you figure that?

He did play for the U-21s, that's the thing.

ERG89 · 16-07-2015 04:34PM

RasTa wrote: »

I don't really see the point in Benteke going to Liverpool, similar to Lukaku going to Everton. Not a sideways move obviously but not a huge step up.

Villa were almost relegated last season........:rolleyes:
They had a cup run but those two domestics cups mean sweet FA
Neither of them are too good for where they'd be

Utopia Parkway · 16-07-2015 04:36PM

RasTa wrote: »

I don't really see the point in Benteke going to Liverpool, similar to Lukaku going to Everton. Not a sideways move obviously but not a huge step up.

Villa were battling relegation last season. As bad a season as Liverpool had they were still in the hunt for 4th in early April. And that was without having a decent striker available almost the entire season.

Bounty Hunter · 16-07-2015 04:36PM

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Despite this odd sneering tone I hear in my head each time I read your message, Valdes is more than just a goalkeeper for Barcelona fans. He's an academy product, a local boy done good, he's a treble winner, a legend at the club, the greatest goalkeeper in Barcelona's history.

Maybe he played with the best Barcelona team and he did come through their system and was there for a long time but you really think he was a better keeper than Zubizaretta?

not that it means everything but:

Andoni Zubizaretta 126 caps for Spain
Victor Valdes 20 caps for Spain

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funny how the day all the Benteke to Man Utd rumours appear Liverpool trigger his clause when for the past few weeks all that was reported was that they were unwilling to meet the 32.5m price tag

RasTa · 16-07-2015 04:40PM

ERG89 wrote: »

Villa were almost relegated last season........:rolleyes:
They had a cup run but those two domestics cups mean sweet FA
Neither of them are too good for were they'd be

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Villa were battling relegation last season. As bad a season as Liverpool had they were still in the hunt for 4th in early April. And that was without having a decent striker available almost the entire season.

Yeah but he is still not moving to a CL club which you would think given the fee. You can have Lacazette for £2.5m more if what their president said today is true.

GavRedKing · 16-07-2015 04:41PM

RasTa wrote: »

I don't really see the point in Benteke going to Liverpool, similar to Lukaku going to Everton. Not a sideways move obviously but not a huge step up.

If Benteke joins Pool or Utd its a huge step up from Villa.

Regarding Lukaku, depends on where you see his move from, if its WBA to Everton, its a step up, if its Chelsea to Everton, its a step down.

Id consider his move WBA to Everton though as he didnt really play for Chelsea, so step up for me.

Bounty Hunter · 16-07-2015 04:43PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Id consider his move WBA to Everton though as he didnt really play for Chelsea, so step up for me.

either way I think Lukaku considered it a stepping stone

rob316 · 16-07-2015 04:44PM

RasTa wrote: »

I don't really see the point in Benteke going to Liverpool, similar to Lukaku going to Everton. Not a sideways move obviously but not a huge step up.

Must try harder :rolleyes:

Giggsy11 · 16-07-2015 05:14PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

He did play for the U-21s, that's the thing.

Tevez played in CL games but also refused to warm up in 1 game. Similarly Valdes played in 3 games but didn't play in few games when asked to as per Van Gaal.

MightyMandarin · 16-07-2015 05:26PM

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah but he is still not moving to a CL club which you would think given the fee. You can have Lacazette for £2.5m more if what their president said today is true.

Isn't our aim of spending loads of money, actually to get into the CL? That's what our goal is, and considering what the teams above us (aside from Arsenal) are spending, we're spending far, far less.

I really don't want to be 'that guy' either, but United spent the guts of 150m last summer despite not being a CL team. They got there eventually, but that was down to spending the money (and even then we ran you quite close). And despite what looks like a major splurge from Liverpool again, our net spend is quite low as we've sold a lot (too many) of our top players in the past few years.

Lacazette wanted CL football this season afaik, but yeah we should've thrown the money at him as he suits our style better than Benteke imo.

Paully D · 16-07-2015 05:32PM

zerks wrote: »

Kaboul undergoing medical at Sunderland.

Shockingly **** signing.

Not that I think he's a bad player (while he has lost pace, playing in a side constantly defending like Sunderland would probably be ideal for him) but he has had missed so many games due to injury the last few seasons.

The club will never, ever learn. :rolleyes:

Iused2likebusts · 16-07-2015 05:37PM

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah but he is still not moving to a CL club which you would think given the fee. You can have Lacazette for £2.5m more if what their president said today is true.

What exactly are you trying to say. Do you think it's a bad move for benteke, Liverpool or both ?

marklazarcovic · 16-07-2015 05:52PM

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Gavlor · 16-07-2015 06:47PM

Evans for 8million... Not sure how I feel about that.

https://twitter.com/telefootball/status/621733890575724544

MightyMandarin · 16-07-2015 06:53PM

Gavlor wrote: »

Evans for 8million... Not sure how I feel about that.

Is he better than Stones or Jagielka? Nope.
Is he worth 8m? In this market, possibly, but 8m is a lot for a 3rd choice CB for Everton.

Bounty Hunter · 16-07-2015 06:55PM

Jagielka is aging and Stones is still more potential and rep than real quality yet so I think he will do well there and United fans should be happy as I doubt the move would happen if they were not close to signing someone (Otamendi I assume)

Ranchu · 16-07-2015 06:57PM

I think it's mental. He will just be third choice. Granted there is no real back up with Distin and Alcatraz gone but 8 million is too much.

Wilberto · 16-07-2015 06:58PM

That's really weird. When I started a FIFA career a while back as Everton, bizarrely, Johnny Evans was actually one of the first players I signed!

Now I'm left with a strange sense of déjà vu!

bradlente · 16-07-2015 07:34PM

Will Stones definitely be there come September?Martinez might start tinkering around with 3 at the back as well.

CantGetNoSleep · 16-07-2015 07:49PM

Sheepy99 wrote: »

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At the moment this was the only thread I follow in the soccer forum because I can't stand the little 13 year old b1tches you come across in those super threads but if this one turns the same I'll give up altogether

MightyMandarin · 16-07-2015 07:56PM

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

At the moment this was the only thread I follow in the soccer forum because I can't stand the little 13 year old b1tches you come across in those super threads but if this one turns the same I'll give up altogether

Better get packing so

Every thread is a Man Utd v Liverpool thread; it's the Godwin's law of football forums.

yabadabado · 16-07-2015 09:12PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Is he better than Stones or Jagielka? Nope.
Is he worth 8m? In this market, possibly, but 8m is a lot for a 3rd choice CB for Everton.

Yes he is better than Stones,Stones may go on to be top quality but at this time Evans is the superior player.Evans will be first choice when available.
Jagielka will be 33 in a few weeks so needs replacing soon.2 from Jags,Evans and Stones with Evans/Stones being the long term plan.

Wilberto · 16-07-2015 09:16PM

Also, Distin has moved on as well so his place in the squad needs to be replaced.

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