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ISIS sympathizer arrested in dublin but then released

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-antiterror-unit-arrest-islamic-state-suspect-in-dublin-31381972.html

    It appears an ISIS sympathizer released without charge last monday. I am just saying that just the fact he was going to join ISIS via turkey should be more then enough to charge him with terrorist offences.

    The fact that he was released without charge presumably means they didn't have enough to prove that he was travelling to join IS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Jesus. Anybody that listened to the testemony of teenage yazidi women held as sex slaves to be violently gang raped nightly by IS soldiers in last nights C4 documentary should be furious.
    Personally I'd have told the turks, 'never heard of the guy, you can keep him'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I wonder where he was Radicalised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Is he irish?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    I wonder where he was Radicalised.

    He probably got some mad notions in Zaytoons after a few too many pints in the Turks Head. There's something sinister about those two establishments being beside each other.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    The fact that he was released without charge presumably means they didn't have enough to prove that he was travelling to join IS.
    If they're not sure that they can charge him with any specific crime, the DPP makes a decision about whether or not a prosecution is going to proceed.

    You can't charge someone and detain them unless you have something to charge them with. Even then you can't detain them unless you can show a court that they're a danger to themselves, the public, or they're likely to abscond.

    There's a good chance this guy's passport has been seized and he's required to sign on every day. So he's not going anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    seamus wrote: »

    There's a good chance this guy's passport has been seized and he's required to sign on every day. So he's not going anywhere.

    Yep, from the article:

    "He was brought to a city centre garda station for questioning about the eastern European passport which he had been travelling with, and which has now been seized."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Not surprising really. Aprox 80 countries have supplied ISIS fighters so at least a few has to come from Ireland..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Maybe they just got their wires crossed given the amount of lads with stupid beards and idiotic head wear in Dublin at the moment?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    I wonder where he was Radicalised.

    Probably CNBC, Fox or Sky News.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭nelly17


    When I read they released him I thought to my self they will probably do more good long term if they get something by keeping him under survellence - hopefully thats whet they're up to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    If he hasn't broken the law, they have no grounds to arrest & charge him...

    They can however, detain him to 'help with inquiries'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I would hazard a guess there are already quite a few here as we have plenty of other imported criminals most unknown as there are no proper checks done.

    Ireland and the UK are way too soft and only a matter of time till something happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    If he hasn't broken the law, they have no grounds to arrest & charge him...

    They can however, detain him to 'help with inquiries'.

    Having seen that documentary last night about the women and girls, it suddenly occurs to me that much important research needs to be done into the kind of injuries falling down those stairs in old Garda stations can cause. Entirely voluntary, of course. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    eamonnq wrote: »
    Yep, from the article:

    "He was brought to a city centre garda station for questioning about the eastern European passport which he had been travelling with, and which has now been seized."

    I hope it's legitimate and the only one he is in possession of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I hope it's legitimate and the only one he is in possession of.

    Well if it is deport him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Well if it is deport him.

    ...after we find out about the stairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Well if it is deport him.

    That's what we should do .

    But you can expect the following why and he hasn't done anything wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    The Gardai have an Anti-Terror Squad ! ! !

    Is this just the public order unit with different US style badges or stickers to distinguish them as anti terror police?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    The Gardai have an Anti-Terror Squad ! ! !

    Is this just the public order unit with different US style badges or stickers to distinguish them as anti terror police?

    I wonder which country was the first to name one of it's police units the anti-terror squad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    biko wrote: »
    Not surprising really. Aprox 80 countries have supplied ISIS fighters so at least a few has to come from Ireland..

    At least 40 Irish have joined ISIS, which is 40 too many in my opinion. And at least 3 have been killed in fighting.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-people-islamic-state-2192482-Jul2015/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    At least 40 Irish have joined ISIS, which is 40 too many in my opinion. And at least 3 have been killed in fighting.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-people-islamic-state-2192482-Jul2015/

    Sure when they come back they will have got all that infidel killing out of their systems. Sure they would probably even vote on SSM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭Public_Enema


    conorhal wrote: »
    Personally I'd have told the turks, 'never heard of the guy, you can keep him'.

    And the Turks would happily turn a blind eye and let him train in comfort. Turkey certainly isn't an enemy of Daesh and they would rather destroy the Kurds than destroy Daesh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    And the Turks would happily turn a blind eye and let him train in comfort. Turkey certainly isn't an enemy of Daesh and they would rather destroy the Kurds than destroy Daesh.
    For anyone wondering what Daesh is - it's another name for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

    In 2014, Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said: “This is a terrorist group and not a state. I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists. The Arabs call it ‘Daesh’ and I will be calling them the ‘Daesh cutthroats’.”

    British Ministers could start calling Isis 'Daesh' to prevent propaganda effect, Michael Fallon says
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-ministers-could-start-calling-isis-daesh-to-prevent-propaganda-effect-michael-fallon-says-10389316.html
    The term 'Daesh' is based on an Arabic acronym of their name, and has pejorative meaning in Arabic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    The Gardai have an Anti-Terror Squad ! ! !

    probably as well manned and funded as the fraud squad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    And the Turks would happily turn a blind eye and let him train in comfort. Turkey certainly isn't an enemy of Daesh and they would rather destroy the Kurds than destroy Daesh.


    And don't forget the Turks have been opening the border for ISIS to conduct attacks against the Kurds in Kobane. Allowing Turkey into the EU will be the greatest geo-political disaster of the last 100 years.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11697764/Isil-reenters-key-Syria-border-town-of-Kobane-live.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    And the Turks would happily turn a blind eye and let him train in comfort. Turkey certainly isn't an enemy of Daesh and they would rather destroy the Kurds than destroy Daesh.

    A guy I know from college is Kurdish and left college to fight ISIS and protect his family. I hope he decimates them.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    The Gardai have an Anti-Terror Squad ! ! !


    Yup

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Detective_Unit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    biko wrote: »
    For anyone wondering what Daesh is - it's another name for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

    In 2014, Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said: “This is a terrorist group and not a state. I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists. The Arabs call it ‘Daesh’ and I will be calling them the ‘Daesh cutthroats’.”

    British Ministers could start calling Isis 'Daesh' to prevent propaganda effect, Michael Fallon says
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-ministers-could-start-calling-isis-daesh-to-prevent-propaganda-effect-michael-fallon-says-10389316.html
    The term 'Daesh' is based on an Arabic acronym of their name, and has pejorative meaning in Arabic.


    And in a decision that will surprise no-one, the left wing BBC sympathisers and useful idiots point blank refuse to refer to IS/ISIS as Daesh. This is the same BBC that refused to call the Charlie Hebdo murderers 'terrorists'. And the same BBC that more or less appointed itself as the PR wing of the Labour party for the recent general election.

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/david-cameron-bbc-won-t-to-refer-to-is-as-daesh-1-3816315

    Happily, the Tories will soon be gutting the BBC and clearing out the extremist leftie halfwits and apologists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Flatzie_poo


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    The Gardai have an Anti-Terror Squad ! !

    It's really just Brenda Fricker with a wooden spoon.

    It's enough to keep me on the straight and narrow anyway!! :D


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