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How do you get over being unattractive/plain-looking?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Mr_Spaceman


    anncoates wrote: »
    I had/have two friends that would have been regarded as extremely good looking in the day and they never seemed to 'get' a markedly higher amount of women in proportion to their physical attractiveness.

    On the flip side of this debate, I had a friend who would - by most people's standards - have been regarded as very, very good looking. Boy band looks, kinda thing. The full 'package'.

    Yet, he had next to no confidence and subsequently had next to no success with women.

    A lesson in there, somewhere, I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    (1) grow a whopping shaft
    (2) grow a whopping bank balance


    that should cover most bases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    On the flip side of this debate, I had a friend who would - by most people's standards - have been regarded as very, very good looking. Boy band looks, kinda thing. The full 'package'.

    Yet, he had next to no confidence and subsequently had next to no success with women.

    A lesson in there, somewhere, I think.

    The lesson is that boy band looks are attractive to pre pubescent girls, not actual women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Being physically unattractive is much harder for women than men. We all frequently see men who drew the short straw in the genetic lottery with attractive women - the reverse is rarely seen by comparison.

    So do whatever you can - get in shape, work on your confidence, and you won't have an issue unless you are literally a hunchback.

    As a wise man once said...

    I think it's more difficult for guys. At least we women have make-up. Well applied make-up can make an incredible difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Have this playing in your earphones at full blast every morning when you leave the house



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    I'm a proper fugly (fúcking ugly) :eek:

    Scars on my face, long ZZ Top beard, missing teeth, heavy tattooing etc., but then I'm a biker, kind of goes with the perceived image.

    Long story short, got some dental implants, shaved off the long hair (the beard is staying, look what happened to Samson) & started exercising regularly.

    I look a little better than I did, but the confidence soared & I am now with my OH (who is a stunner & a beauty therapist, but obviously needs a white stick & a labrador :pac:) for the last decade after being single for nearly four decades on & off :cool: :D

    Moral of the story...if a fugly like me can find the love of their life, despite all my aesthetic disadvantages, anyone can ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Most of these replies are bollocks, to be honest. Very few people want to be with someone who is physically unattractive, no matter what their personality is like. It's highly unlikely that people are going to spend enough time on someone they are not physically attractive to realise that they have a good sense of humour and warm personality (and most often these people won't have this as they'll be social cripples, which is a vicious circle). Even then, how many people in the history of humanity have actually changed their mind about someone's attractiveness once they've got over the initial repulsion?

    You just deal with it OP, like you would if you'd lost a leg and the dream of being a sprinter went up in smoke.
    You make the mistake that people can't come to find people physically attractive based on their personality, it's not that they are going out with somebody they are disgusted by.
    That's quite common. It may rarely go from repulsion to adoration but really, what percentage of poeple are people "repulsed" by as opposed to just finding somebody plain looking.

    If you look up the research men are far more looks focused than women, and even then looks is only one of the important criteria to men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Not sure whats worse, being alone, or someone whose only with you cos of the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Mr_Spaceman


    Ush1 wrote: »
    The lesson is that boy band looks are attractive to pre pubescent girls, not actual women.

    Okay, I was being a bit glib. He did have them but remained a very good looker into his late 30s. A real catch, in theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    Speaking of ugly don't feel alone. Hate to use that word but was out visiting the folks yesterday and had to endure an episode of "Fair City". I've never seen such a shocking collection of ugly men. Wrinkles you'd think were accident gashes. Skin the texture of an old bicycle tyre. Pasty as something you'd find in the morgue. And that's with make-up on. Not - Fair city if you ask me.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 369 ✭✭walkingshadow


    I remember a fantastic piece of advice my mother gave me when I was young. She said "Michael, you won't ever be rejected by girls based on what you look like. You'll be rejected based on your abhorrent personality".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Rock 1234


    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Life isn't fair, Now take a look at what gifts and talents you have and think how lucky you are to be alive,

    We all know beautiful people who have bad health, or are suffering in one way or another,

    Use what you have and go out and enjoy Life.

    Good Luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Being ugly doesnt matter if you have a big strong COCK .LOL (if all else fails you can have endless fun playing with yourself )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    anto9 wrote: »
    Being ugly doesnt matter if you have a big strong COCK .LOL (if all else fails you can have endless fun playing with yourself )

    Bit of a bummer if you are female.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Wealth cures ugliness.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Personality can definitely affect how you perceive physical attractiveness imo.

    A plain girl who is bright and bubbly will start to look a lot better while a gorgeous girl who is a bitch will look less so.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭miezekatze


    Just focus on your qualities and the things you like about yourself. I know a lot of people these days are very shallow, but not everyone is. You shouldn't hate yourself like that because of the way you look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    You make the mistake that people can't come to find people physically attractive based on their personality, it's not that they are going out with somebody they are disgusted by.
    That's quite common. It may rarely go from repulsion to adoration but really, what percentage of poeple are people "repulsed" by as opposed to just finding somebody plain looking.

    If you look up the research men are far more looks focused than women, and even then looks is only one of the important criteria to men.
    Although there's the argument that a woman will pull more easily on a night out, but a drunken shag doesn't necessarily mean attraction.

    Otherwise though, yeah I agree - "plain" is no issue for me when a guy has a great personality (sense of humour, intelligent, good to chat to).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Mr_Spaceman


    Like most things in life - and, while it's easier said than done, admittedly - the less of a fcuk you give, the more accepting, content and happier you'll be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Not that many people are actually ugly though really.

    I'm sure most people who think they're fugly are actually fairly normal.
    Being plain looking isn't an affliction. It's normal.

    OP, you need (in no particular order):
    1. Good grooming/hygiene,
    2. Half decent haircut,
    3. Stylish clothes and good shoes,
    4. Get in decent physical shape,
    5. A positive mental attitude, nobody wants to be with a miserable bastard.
    6. Confidence (see 5.)

    Also some people grow into themselves as they age. I'm deffo a sexier beast now in my mid 30s than I was in my early 20s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Nazi haircuts steroids and fluorescent white teeth seems to be the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    There are far more Ugly people than handsome (especially in Ireland ) .I can think of many famous men who are Ugly but succeeded in being very successful in life .Just for an example ,Allen Sugar of UK tv ,with the Apprentice .
    Its how you perceive yourself ,and having confidence that matters i think .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Seriously, have you tried alcohol?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭OneOfThem


    I'd have known far more people that would have sworn til they were blue in the face that they were unattractive, despite not being anything close to it, throughout my life, than people that actually were. So many things can effect you, even right down to the level of perception, when it comes to self assessment. It's not a reliable metric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    I'm bollixed....just don't end up like me, kids, let that be a lesson to ye all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Medusa22


    Ah I don't know, OP. I don't believe in ''soulmates'' or anything but I do think that there will be someone that suits you, looks and personality wise, no matter what you look like, even if you look like quasimodo. Ok, then the girl might look like a female version of quasimodo but if you love her and you find her attractive and she makes you laugh, then who cares?

    I'm definitely no looker but I have gone out with people in the past and I have had people make comments about them, that they didn't think they were good looking enough for me or whatever, but obviously I didn't think that and that is not how I saw them and I didn't appreciate those comments being made.

    No matter what you look like you can improve things, clothes, hairstyles and exercise can all help, and having a good sense of humour helps a lot too. If you aren't expecting to pull miss world then you'll be fine, I know of some men who often complain about being single and that girls don't want them and then I see them trying to pull the most attractive girl in a bar and I just think, well that's a bit out of your league in fairness, of course the girl might find him attractive, but setting your sights a bit lower is always a bit more realistic :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    People always speak about confidence as if it was easy to come by. Sure, a person can work on their confidence, but in general confidence is about belief and you can't make yourself believe what you know deep down just isn't true and so that advice is pretty much pointless. Confidence has to have foundation.
    If a person has a life of never having had anyone negatively comment on how they look, has had tons of compliments growing up on how their physical aspects of their appearance, no shortage of attention from the opposite sex, or same sex.. then naturally they will have confidence in themselves. Such people might not even give the importance of looks a second thought. Sure why would they. You drive on smooth roads your whole life, you're hardly gonna be able to relate to someone whinging about potholes on theirs. Conversely: a person has has a childhood scattered with name calling based on their physical failings, zero attention from anyone that is remotely interested in them.. then naturally, confidence is not going to be all that great, no matter how much the person works on it.

    Oddly enough, I have experienced both. I was quite good looking (as it goes) up until around 17 and had tons of attention from girls, ridiculously so and then, as a result of an illness, it went. So I can relate to both sides of the coin as I once would have not understood where people complaining about such things were coming from, and then I very much could relate. It was like someone flicking a switch and has very very little to do with how confident you feel as I was quite shy at 16 when I had that attention and didn't like myself much at all. Was on acne meds at the time, thought everyone must think I was horrendous, but yet got lots of girls gave me attention and even often had girls say they liked that that I was shy and would blush when they spoke to me. I still hear women say that about other guys in fact, that some guy is really handsome, but doesn't yet know it and how much they like that about them and so I think the whole confidence thing is overstated tbf.

    I have no real advice though, why would I, but I think it's the same as any flaw a person might have really. No use pretending you're something you're not (as some of these confidence gurus might suggest) as that just comes across if someone is hiding something, putting on an act and even if you pulled doing that, it's bound not to last long as there is no chance anyone could sustain a facade for too long and so your only real choice is to make the most of yourself, strive to look your best, as the biker dude did above. The hand you've been dealt is the only one you can play at the end of the day and maybe there's some confidence to be found in that. As a great man once said, You've got to learn to live, with what you can't rise above'. You only have one life, no point spending it fretting over your failings, perceived or otherwise.

    Another thing which made me take prescriptive on things, with lots of things really, not just this, was learning how to be grateful for what I do have. Have a friend that sufferers from Craniodiaphyseal dysplasia and people will actually drive slower when they see him just so they can look at him. Groups of kids will shout at him, adults with stop talking when he walks into a room, pretty much everywhere he goes people will stare. Makes me feel like an idiot for feeling self conscious about comparatively trivial reasons when I see the level of negative attention he pretty much takes in his stride. That's the same condition that Rocky Dennis had by the way, which the film Mask was based on. He died when he was 16. He wrote the following:
    These things are good: ice cream and cake, a ride on a harley, seeing monkeys in the trees, the rain on my tongue, and the sun shining on my face.

    These things are a drag: dust in my hair, holes in my shoes, no money in my pocket, and the sun shining on my face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I'm pretty ok with everything, I've accepted I won't find someone to love me unless I suddenly come into a lot of money, and thats ok.

    Not everyone gets to make it, and not everyone gets to have the happy ending from hollywood. Thats ok.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    cloud493 wrote: »
    I'm pretty ok with everything, I've accepted I won't find someone to love me unless I suddenly come into a lot of money, and thats ok.

    Not everyone gets to make it, and not everyone gets to have the happy ending from hollywood. Thats ok.

    You're probably totally exaggerating anyway. Most people don't have insight into how they look. Good looks aren't everything, it doesn't stop you getting sick or being leered at.


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