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Irish anti-Islamic group protests mosque in Kerry

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  • #152
    squiggledash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭squiggledash


    Ireland would appear to be just about ok with a birth rate of 2.01.


  • #153
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    squiggledash wrote: »
    Ireland would appear to be just about ok with a birth rate of 2.01.

    That'll drop very quickly I think. The country is becoming less conservative, more educated, less religious and more urbanised, with each year...all of those things point towards low birth rates, similar to that of our neighbours on the continent


  • #154
    squiggledash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭squiggledash


    I think it's that the west has prioritized work above all else. Everybody must work all the time and have amazing careers and earn loads of money. The reality is most people will just have jobs to pay the bills but they still will take up most of their time. I think governments will be forced to become much more baby friendly in the years to come but were not there yet.


  • #155
    Wang King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    Saw this little protest the other day, they were mainly ignored by locals and left potter about in their own little world .
    Threads have appeared in the Kerry forum, asking people to join the fight against the mosque, haven't seen any replys in agreement as yet, don't think I will either


  • #156
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Oh well I thought that was implied. I did mean that. I don't think its racist to not want the indigenous ethnic group of Ireland and other european countries to go extinct

    Just how fcuking pure do you think Irish blood is?? Chances are everyone you see as ethnically Irish is in fact a mongrol of Irish, Welsh, Scottish, French, English, Spanish, Scandanavian and God knows what else.

    I guess you have no concern about the Irish continuing to interbreed like this, but one or two generations crosses the skin colour divide and OMG, the sky is falling.

    Seriously, that's what bothers you isn't it, coffee coloured Irish kids.

    Ugh, pure racism.


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  • #157
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    MadsL wrote: »
    Just how fcuking pure do you think Irish blood is?? Chances are everyone you see as ethnically Irish is in fact a mongrol of Irish, Welsh, Scottish, French, English, Spanish, Scandanavian and God knows what else.

    I guess you have no concern about the Irish continuing to interbreed like this, but one generations crosses the skin colour divide and OMG, the sky is falling.

    Seriously, that's what bothers you isn't it, coffee coloured Irish kids.

    Ugh, pure racism.

    Well personally Id be sad if there were no freckly people or pale people or fiery redheads left in the country seeing as they are traits our people are known for. But I guess thats just racist of me


  • #158
    squiggledash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭squiggledash


    Well the chances are that Muslim couples as they adopt more western and european values of the countries that they immigrate to will in turn start having less babies. So is Western culture bad for humanity. Possible a topic for a separate thread.


  • #159
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well personally Id be sad if there were no freckly people or pale people or fiery redheads left in the country seeing as they are traits our people are known for. But I guess thats just racist of me

    Since when was red hair and freckles an Irish trait outside a Hollywood movie?


  • #160
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    MadsL wrote: »
    Funny how you mention NI!! - without a blink about the levels of Christian sectarian violence! Now you can bluster that away as sectarian rather than religious, and I can point out that most Islamic terrorist violence is political/sectarian but you choose to depict it as religious.

    Huh?
    1) I didn't raise anything related to NI. Another user introduced the issue; mistakenly equating sectarianism with terrorism.
    2) The Troubles weren't about establishing a Christian State but were for political aims.
    3) Maybe research on the aims of Al Qaeda* and ISIL* before you claim political motivation for their actions. Research what a Caliphate is too...
    The Parisian shooting was motivated by what? A picture of the Prophet (pbuh) was to be printed. How is this political?
    4) The murder of Lee Rigby is the only incident that has a mostly political aspect to it.

    But enlighten me as to how Muslim violence in the West is political in nature, if you will.


    * if they are real


  • #161
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    The only thing that bothers me is the ones coming here and contributing nothing to society be it financial or integration.

    Just popping out kids left right and centre.

    Once everyone works and contributes and pays for their own off spring happy days.


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  • #162
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well personally Id be sad if there were no freckly people or pale people or fiery redheads left in the country seeing as they are traits our people are known for. But I guess thats just racist of me

    You realize how astronomically unlikely that is to happen right? There are hundreds millions of people around the world who look stereotypically Irish.

    What is it about people having mixed race children that bothers you really?
    not the end of the Rose of Tralee redhead surely?



    Did I wake up in 1960 somehow?


  • #163
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    The only thing that bothers me is the ones coming here and contributing nothing to society be it financial or integration.

    Just popping out kids left right and centre.

    Once everyone works and contributes and pays for their own off spring happy days.

    Here we go.....


  • #164
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Since when was red hair and freckles an Irish trait outside a Hollywood movie?

    Ireland has the second most redheaded people in the world in the world per capita only after scotland! And just look around and you can see a whole tonne of people have freckles :pac:


  • #165
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    MadsL wrote: »
    You realize how astronomically unlikely that is to happen right? There are hundreds millions of people around the world who look stereotypically Irish.

    What is it about people having mixed race children that bothers you really?
    not the end of the Rose of Tralee redhead surely?



    Did I wake up in 1960 somehow?

    No..really I have no problem with race mixing..
    I said I would be sad if the ethnic irish group was replaced by immigrant ethnic groups. Now how did you pull that I'm against race mixing from that


  • #166
    squiggledash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭squiggledash


    Actually mixed race children are genetically healthier and more resistant to disease. So in theory we should be all mixing it up if you want the healthiest population.


  • #167
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    MadsL wrote: »
    Here we go.....

    What?

    It goes for Irish people too.


  • #168
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Ireland has the second most redheaded people in the world in the world per capita only after scotland! And just look around and you can see a whole tonne of people have freckles :pac:

    So do a lot of people. It's not what makes you Irish.


  • #169
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    squiggledash wrote: »
    Well the chances are that Muslim couples as they adopt more western and european values of the countries that they immigrate to will in turn start having less babies. So is Western culture bad for humanity. Possible a topic for a separate thread.

    How many do successfully integrate into Irish Society and Culture though?
    I'd hazard that the Poles are assimilating faster than anyone else; even the ones that aren't here too long.
    The Muslims mostly come from a vastly different culture and that, not the religion, would be the main issue, imo.


  • #170
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    lazybones32 wrote: »
    Huh?
    1) I didn't raise anything related to NI. Another user introduced the issue; mistakenly equating sectarianism with terrorism.
    Funny how you seem a bit blind to the irony there.
    2) The Troubles weren't about establishing a Christian State but were for political aims.
    Well one side wanted reunification with the Republic, which if you read the Constitution certainly fits a definition of a Christian state.

    3
    ) Maybe research on the aims of Al Qaeda* and ISIL* before you claim political motivation for their actions. Research what a Caliphate is too...
    If you are raising an army, religion is a handy rallying cry, pretty much the story of Europe over the past millenia.
    The Parisian shooting was motivated by what? A picture of the Prophet (pbuh) was to be printed. How is this political?
    where did I state ALL Islamic extremism was political. I said MOST Islamic terrorist violence is political/sectarian. So how does one example answer the point I made?
    4) The murder of Lee Rigby is the only incident that has a mostly political aspect to it.
    So latest score in this post: Religion 1 Politics 1
    But enlighten me as to how Muslim violence in the West is political in nature, if you will.
    Ask yourself when it started, and you have your answer.

    * if they are real

    I'll pay you $5 not to say "false flag" ever again.


  • #171
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    eviltwin wrote: »
    So do a lot of people. It's not what makes you Irish.

    Well I guess you're right...but would you honestly not care in the slightest if in 50 years everyone in Ireland was of black and asian descent? Maybe I am racist I don't know


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  • #172
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    wakka12 wrote: »
    No..really I have no problem with race mixing..
    I said I would be sad if the ethnic irish group was replaced by immigrant ethnic groups. Now how did you pull that I'm against race mixing from that

    Because the Irish have always been replaced by immigrant ethnic groups. Just how many direct decendants of 2000 year old ethnic Irish do you think haven't had a dalliance with the newcomers?

    Ethnicity isn't some static thing that can be clung to, it evolves, that's what we do as Homo Sapiens, as pointed out above - it's healthy.

    Plus your "replacement" of ethnic appearance is highly unlikely, genetics has a way of being surprising.


  • #173
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    MadsL wrote: »
    Because the Irish have always been replaced by immigrant ethnic groups. Just how many direct decendants of 2000 year old ethnic Irish do you think haven't had a dalliance with the newcomers?

    Ethnicity isn't some static thing that can be clung to, it evolves, that's what we do as Homo Sapiens, as pointed out above - it's healthy.

    Plus your "replacement" of ethnic appearance is highly unlikely, genetics has a way of being surprising.

    I do believe you are talking nonsense.


  • #174
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well I guess you're right...but would you honestly not care in the slightest if in 50 years everyone in Ireland was of black and asian descent? Maybe I am racist I don't know

    That's never going to happen. Your physical appearance shouldn't matter. I don't look Irish but I'm as Irish as anyone else here.


  • #175
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    MadsL wrote: »


    Well one side wanted reunification with the Republic, which if you read the Constitution certainly fits a definition of a Christian state.






    I'll pay you $5 not to say "false flag" ever again.

    Only 2 points merit an address:

    2 parties wanted reunion: SDLP and SF. SDLP are gone but, if you've read the manifesto's of, or understand the roots of, SF, would you consider them Christian?
    I've been to all manner of Left-wing meetings (been called "comrade" all too often) and I can guarantee you, there is no love or desire for a Christian State. Unless the Left suddenly loves religion?

    False flag...propaganda exists. How can we be sure we're not being fed diluted and manipulated stories?


  • #176
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That's never going to happen. Your physical appearance shouldn't matter. I don't look Irish but I'm as Irish as anyone else here.

    Ok I agree with you . But actually with current immigration rates and birth rates in europe it literally will happen, not in 50 years but not all that long either.


  • #177
    sheesh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭sheesh


    MadsL wrote: »
    Interesting that their website is registered in the US - no national sentiment there.

    all the language is more like someone on reddit than someone from Ireland too I would imagine it is a US based group pretending to be Irish


  • #178
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    sheesh wrote: »
    all the language is more like someone on reddit than someone from Ireland too I would imagine it is a US based group pretending to be Irish

    And what would be the benefit of pretending to be irish though


  • #179
    Smiles35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    squiggledash wrote: »
    Still its interesting why a subset of a species would behave like this.

    What do you find interesting about it? What do you compare us to?


  • #180
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    No. It's a loaded question. He can deny it but who is going to search all his posts.

    Not at all loaded. What he may or may not have said in the past is irrelevant, as peoples views change.


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  • #181
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Ok I agree with you . But actually with current immigration rates and birth rates in europe it literally will happen, not in 50 years but not all that long either.

    Scare mongering codswallop. Not that it matters anyway. Lots of Irish people don't look stereotypically Irish ffs.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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