Irish anti-Islamic group protests mosque in Kerry

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 12:46PM

MadsL wrote: »

Black people for one set of people. Did you view the posts listed??

Inciting fear of a race of people is inciting hatred. Quite surprised that this has to be spelled out to you.

Could you spell out some more things for me, please? I viewed the links in the OP. I also looked at the fb page about the white man stabbed 30(?) times by the black man. I cannot find where "fear of a race" is promoted.

Having read through their (CPP) description on the FB page, I can find no mention of superiority/inferiority regarding race. They want to control immigration. Then again, I only read what was written...I didn't read 'between' the lines.
Besides, the issue is about a mosque proposed for Tralee. Islam/Muslim isn't a race.

Nodin · 14-07-2015 12:58PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Could you spell out some more things for me, please? I viewed the links in the OP. I also looked at the fb page about the white man stabbed 30(?) times by the black man. I cannot find where "fear of a race" is promoted.

Having read through their (CPP) description on the FB page, I can find no mention of superiority/inferiority regarding race. They want to control immigration. Then again, I only read what was written...I didn't read 'between' the lines.
Besides, the issue is about a mosque proposed for Tralee. Islam/Muslim isn't a race.

Can't see race baiting?
https://www.facebook.com/cppireland/photos/a.1464778517147368.1073741829.1464682590490294/1464778313814055/?type=1

lazybones32 wrote: »

Besides, the issue is about a mosque proposed for Tralee. Islam/Muslim isn't a race.

So because they're just being sectarian it's ok then.

Herpes Cineplex · 14-07-2015 01:01PM

I think the best approach is to deny such Nazi nut jobs the oxygen of publicity. They'll only fed off publicity, even if it is largely negative.

eviltwin · 14-07-2015 01:02PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Could you spell out some more things for me, please? I viewed the links in the OP. I also looked at the fb page about the white man stabbed 30(?) times by the black man. I cannot find where "fear of a race" is promoted.

Having read through their (CPP) description on the FB page, I can find no mention of superiority/inferiority regarding race. They want to control immigration. Then again, I only read what was written...I didn't read 'between' the lines.
Besides, the issue is about a mosque proposed for Tralee. Islam/Muslim isn't a race.

Have a look at the various FB pages these guys have and look at the images. Take a look at their Google+ page and the references to neo-nazism. Imagine for one second you are an immigrant or a black person or that their stuff is aimed at the Irish and see what you think. They don't just have an issue with immigration, they have an issue with anyone who isn't a white, Irish. They consider Irish women who have relationships with black men - even Irish black men - as traitors.

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 01:09PM

Nodin wrote: »

Can't see race baiting?
https://www.facebook.com/cppireland/photos/a.1464778517147368.1073741829.1464682590490294/1464778313814055/?type=1

So because they're just being sectarian it's ok then.

I actually find that pic funny!

Sectarianism doesn't bother me. I tolerate the sectarians in the North (on both sides) and will tolerate these ones too.

Nodin · 14-07-2015 01:14PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

I actually find that pic funny!.

Aren't you the card.

lazybones32 wrote: »

Sectarianism doesn't bother me. I tolerate the sectarians in the North (on both sides) and will tolerate these ones too.

Assholes killing each other over religion doesn't bother you.....like when three young kids are burnt to death in a fire started because their mother was one of the 'others'.

walkingshadow · 14-07-2015 01:33PM

Wow, I never knew Ireland had its own KKK.

jimgoose · 14-07-2015 01:39PM

A Kerry anti-Islam group, eh? They'll be the crowd going around gathering up all the cheesecloth and burning it. :pac:

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 01:43PM

Nodin wrote: »

Aren't you the card.

Assholes killing each other over religion doesn't bother you.....like when three young kids are burnt to death in a fire started because their mother was one of the 'others'.

Aren't I just!

Correctamundo! Assholes killing assholes doesn't concern me in the slightest...whether it's religion, politics, flags or whatever reason they 'struggle' for/against. I'd happily let them tool-up and openly engage each other in some remote part of this Island.
Why mention the 3 boys? A lot of other innocent people died at the hands of assholes in the North. Were their lives less important? Or are you trying to use their death - which I had absolutely no part in, or power to prevent - to try and somehow tarnish me for not opposing people opposing the building of a mosque? If the CCP start bombing innocent civilians in the name of their cause, then my views may change but as long as it's peaceful protest, I won't deny them their right.

Herb Powell · 14-07-2015 01:43PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Could you spell out some more things for me, please? I viewed the links in the OP. I also looked at the fb page about the white man stabbed 30(?) times by the black man. I cannot find where "fear of a race" is promoted.

Well then you can't fuccking read

walkingshadow wrote: »

Wow, I never knew Ireland had its own KKK.

The Orange Order would be close enough I'd say. Not as bad as the KKK, mind, but not a whole lot better either.

walkingshadow · 14-07-2015 01:45PM

Did anyone see that ad last night on RTE One for an Orange Cultural Centre in Northern Ireland? (around 9.30pm) I thought it was a really weird thing to advertise on national Irish television.

eviltwin · 14-07-2015 01:46PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Aren't I just!

Correctamundo! Assholes killing assholes doesn't concern me in the slightest...whether it's religion, politics, flags or whatever reason they 'struggle' for/against. I'd happily let them tool-up and openly engage each other in some remote part of this Island.
Why mention the 3 boys? A lot of other innocent people died at the hands of assholes in the North. Were their lives less important? Or are you trying to use their death - which I had absolutely no part in, or power to prevent - to try and somehow tarnish me for not opposing people opposing the building of a mosque? If the CCP start bombing innocent civilians in the name of their cause, then my views may change but as long as it's peaceful protest, I won't deny them their right.

Are you a member of the CPP?

darkpagandeath · 14-07-2015 01:49PM

When did the Celts commit genocide ?

Son Of A Vidic · 14-07-2015 01:50PM

Herpes Cineplex wrote: »

I think the best approach is to deny such Nazi nut jobs the oxygen of publicity. They'll only fed off publicity, even if it is largely negative.

I can see your point, but it's also good to expose such ignorant & backward thinking idiots for the muppets they are.

osarusan · 14-07-2015 01:54PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I can see your point, but it is also good to expose such ignorant & backward thinking idiots for the muppets they are.

I don't know - that argument is based on the premise that giving them exposure will always make people realise what backward-thinking idiots and muppets they are.

But given their existence* in the first place, we have to accept that some sad people can buy into this bullsh!t.

*Having said that, I am not sure it is a given, the whole thing could easily be the work of one or two loons/trolls.

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 02:01PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

Well then you can't fuccking read

I can read. I can punctuate also.

eviltwin wrote: »

Are you a member of the CPP?

No. Are you?

eviltwin · 14-07-2015 02:04PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

I can read. I can punctuate also.

No. Are you?

No I'm not.

Nodin · 14-07-2015 02:34PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Aren't I just!

Correctamundo! Assholes killing assholes doesn't concern me in the slightest...whether it's religion, politics, flags or whatever reason they 'struggle' for/against. I'd happily let them tool-up and openly engage each other in some remote part of this Island.
Why mention the 3 boys? .

Because they were victims of the sectarianism you have no problems with. The sons of a catholic and a protestant, killed because their parents wouldn't keep to their own.

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 03:11PM

Nodin wrote: »

Because they were victims of the sectarianism you have no problems with. The sons of a catholic and a protestant, killed because their parents wouldn't keep to their own.

Have cpp firebombed houses, shot people, or detonated explosives in civilian areas?
How your mental process equates opposing the building of a mosque with firebombing children as they sleep escapes me. (that's not an invitation to enlighten me on it)

Forgot to add: being sectarian doesn't mean one is a terrorist. You see, not everyone applies the same connotations to that word that the nordies do.

Nodin · 14-07-2015 03:13PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Have cpp firebombed houses, shot people, or detonated explosives in civilian areas?
How your mental process equates opposing the building of a mosque with firebombing children as they sleep escapes me. (that's not an invitation to enlighten me on it)

Sorry, but you stated

Sectarianism doesn't bother me. I tolerate the sectarians in the North (on both sides) and will tolerate these ones too.

Samaris · 14-07-2015 03:13PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

When did the Celts commit genocide ?

"The Celts" is like saying "when did humans commit genocide" though. The Celts are a whole bunch of different peoples and almost certainly have made reasonable attempts to wipe out other tribes and factions every so often. Probably counts, unless you claim the Celts as being one race and thus needing to be trying to wipe out a whole different race.

The Irish ones were pretty good at kidnapping and slavery though. Wales got raided a lot. Oddly enough, bar mentions of St Patrick, we don't tend to talk about that much...

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 03:17PM

Nodin wrote: »

Sorry, but you stated

refer to addition #80

Sectarianism isn't terrorism.

conorhal · 14-07-2015 03:18PM

Herpes Cineplex wrote: »

I think the best approach is to deny such Nazi nut jobs the oxygen of publicity. They'll only fed off publicity, even if it is largely negative.

I think the best approach would be to have an honest debate about immigration and a clear and coherent immigration policy framed in the context of what is best for the country. It's the head in the sand approach to immigration that's fueling such groups.

darkpagandeath · 14-07-2015 03:22PM

Samaris wrote: »

"The Celts" is like saying "when did humans commit genocide" though. The Celts are a whole bunch of different peoples and almost certainly have made reasonable attempts to wipe out other tribes and factions every so often. Probably counts, unless you claim the Celts as being one race and thus needing to be trying to wipe out a whole different race.

The Irish ones were pretty good at kidnapping and slavery though. Wales got raided a lot. Oddly enough, bar mentions of St Patrick, we don't tend to talk about that much...

I was being facetious As the party name.

Nodin · 14-07-2015 03:28PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

refer to addition #80

Sectarianism isn't terrorism.

It's bigotry and stupidity of the worst kind which has plagued this country for centuries. It leads to discrimination and violence.

lazybones32 · 14-07-2015 03:45PM

Nodin wrote: »

It's bigotry and stupidity of the worst kind which has plagued this country for centuries. It leads to discrimination and violence.

Humans are rational beings with an inherent capacity for irrational behaviour. If some people want to oppose a mosque being built in Tralee, I've no intention of stopping them from doing so. I don't care if their protest is motivated by prejudice, racism or genuine fear of a growing muslim population and the perceived dangers associated. This is a Republic (supposedly) and people are allowed to protest. You are free to counter-demonstrate.

Immigration is going to be an issue in Ireland fairly soon* (if the boats keep arriving at the same rate) and if we're going to discuss the topic, any view that doesn't correspond to the seemingly 'popular' view must not be silenced before being heard. As witnessed on this thread, the judge and jury have been dispensed with and the executioner is positioned. All because of a facebook page?

* if Ireland will have to take a proportion of the immigrants as proposed by the EU.

MadsL · 14-07-2015 04:35PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Humans are rational beings with an inherent capacity for irrational behaviour. If some people want to oppose a mosque being built in Tralee, I've no intention of stopping them from doing so. I don't care if their protest is motivated by prejudice, racism or genuine fear of a growing muslim population and the perceived dangers associated. This is a Republic (supposedly) and people are allowed to protest. You are free to counter-demonstrate.

Immigration is going to be an issue in Ireland fairly soon* (if the boats keep arriving at the same rate) and if we're going to discuss the topic, any view that doesn't correspond to the seemingly 'popular' view must not be silenced before being heard. As witnessed on this thread, the judge and jury have been dispensed with and the executioner is positioned. All because of a facebook page?

* if Ireland will have to take a proportion of the immigrants as proposed by the EU.

What line do you draw then? Is it acceptable to deny the holocaust and agitate for racial war? Or should there be laws to prevent hate speech?

Not a NSA agent · 14-07-2015 04:47PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

Immigration is going to be an issue in Ireland fairly soon* (if the boats keep arriving at the same rate) and if we're going to discuss the topic, any view that doesn't correspond to the seemingly 'popular' view must not be silenced before being heard. As witnessed on this thread, the judge and jury have been dispensed with and the executioner is positioned. All because of a facebook page?

What do you expect when they say "Anal sex is against the laws of God and nature" or "Serves this idiot libtard right. There is a very good reason why God ordained that negros be located in Africa...."

Any idiot can have an opinion, it doesnt save it being incredibly stupid. Immigration is ok, god helped to build a big boat before! Well that was an impressive immigration debate, who needs facts. Just claim you are being silenced when nobody will take your theory that gay black people come from the moon.

Not a NSA agent · 14-07-2015 04:56PM

It's a good thing the "good guys" destroyed Hitler otherwise we could never have had the "Liberal" agenda producing this kind of aberration.

This is the group that just keeps on giving. The native white, redheaded, Christian Celtic natives of Ireland are something that needs to be protected.

Samaris · 14-07-2015 05:09PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I was being facetious As the party name.

You might be, but those lunatics aren't. Reading through their manifesto is the nicest possible cover for the hate and bile on their facebook.

I was on their facebook page and the urge to have a go at nearly every post was so overwhelming that I had to close it again.

Irish anti-Islamic group protests mosque in Kerry

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