Cork GAA Discussion Thread

willietherock wrote: »

Brian Hurley stank the joint out yet again. Maybe Eammon Sweeney will blame Cubby? Mark Collins wasn't a whole lot better.Castleheaven will be quite for a while. Expect Kerry to win the replay as they have the better players but Cork will put up a fight again. Pitty they are so badly screwed by the draw.

Who do you blame Willie


Your quick critse hurley who fault is it?
What fo you make cork use subs
What view on loughrey on o donughe
Hurley always played well under age and club
Surely if not doing senior coaching has be questioned for saying him he needs be team player

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

What a positive post ....how you can post something like that after todays display beggars believe ...today was a fantastic day and I am very proud of Cork football tonight ....we talk about the future tomorrow.

Stop with the moral victory stuff.

willietherock wrote: »

Brian Hurley stank the joint out yet again. Maybe Eammon Sweeney will blame Cubby? Mark Collins wasn't a whole lot better.Castleheaven will be quite for a while. Expect Kerry to win the replay as they have the better players but Cork will put up a fight again. Pitty they are so badly screwed by the draw.

I thought Collins was absolutely superb. Played the sweeper well and linked attacks brilliantly. So calm on the ball.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I criticised the management team after the league final, and being very honest, I would disagree with this post. One game does not make a championship summer - and you cannot underestimate the hurt from last years Munster final, where Kerry steamrolled Cork in their own back yard by double scores.

I didn't see the game, so I won't comment on it - but I would love to be proved wrong, and see this Cork team put two decent performances together. It has been said it was the best championship performance of the Cuthbert era, but great teams have to put those performance's together back to back. Clare got in for 3/4 decent goal chances, but didn't take them. Hospital passes in front of your own goal is child's play - heard somewhere it is 20 years since we have beaten Kerry in Killarney, way too long! Kerry will be the happier ones, having come back whereas for Cork it is a chance lost, which could end up being relevant.

That's it in a nutshell kerry will go in to full full yerra mode now in its so predicable
One of their own will critse fitzmaurice and kerry and say soft all ireland won and say kerry huge problem


They will be talk cork serous team cork should won
Fitzmaurice said it after the game and while he's honest he's getting in the ist draw in mind games
Kerry should lost will go in to over drive


Cork the entry is we go in to moral victory land like numerous teams have the last twenty years like limerick hurling and Cork last year with out fixing problems that have been there all year
Out blanket defence is not a blanket in any shape or form and again on top worst defence league three challenge and two championship matches no improvement at all at all as a system and it's appalling appalling system that started last July v sligo still isn't working yet Dublin are in full node and system works Dublin as they move ball safely from defence to forwards



Kerry had ten different scorers to corks four
Kerry have a system and individuals let them down to day I'd argue but Cork have individual today no system played well


No disrespect other poster but Gary in fairness I'd debate in win you think we're all Ireland winner defeat were doomed


Imo balance is key
I think cork won't win all Ireland as again this management are going against basics basics any defence coach knows you don't play half back like attack as your man marking defender
You wouldn't see it in schools game in all honesty


Kerry were set up for the ambush as complacency was so evident since Thursday


I'd love be proven wrong like you too but a management doesn't make one change for nearly hour and takes off the best forward and defender there's huge concerns with


How many times have we seem kerry getting wake up calls and moving forward
Teams win replay normally ones learn the most from the draw


Do this management learn
Like you said four goals chances to clare two goals conceded today is is imo justifiable to say we don't

Cork ladies football as your know changed their attitude as they wanted to win and it changed thirteen years ago


Cusack said Wexford hurling tonight fans never expected Wexford win and attuide has change

Again I say it cork attuide football is need of change as again reaction for draw moral victory is evident when cork imo will only evolve if these lads realise drawing kerry against team there for the taking is nothing to be cheerful for in great waves

I don't know what whelan is taking about on the Sunday game Cork defensively structure was good

We conceded huge score

It seems we now know Cork can play very well a certain way. Next step is what changes can be made to keep the opposition from negating todays positives?

Loughrey to wing back?
Barry o driscoll to switch wings maybe?
I think to be be truly a team to be feared either hurley or o neill needs to be able to come deeper and switch with donncha or collins. Otherwise its rigid and allows the opposition plan their match ups.

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Watching Colm O'Neill's 45 again, he lobbed it in as if his team was two points down looking for a goal, rather than a team that was a point ahead. WTF was he thinking??

Do you think he meant to lob it in or he was going for a score? Do you kick 45s over the bar yourself blindfolded or something? Ive never kicked one. Obviously just a poor kick, technique left him down, tired legs hadnt the power in them maybe. Not that he thought itd be clever to lob it into the square.

Deco99 wrote: »

It seems we now know Cork can play very well a certain way. Next step is what changes can be made to keep the opposition from negating todays positives?

Loughrey to wing back?
Barry o driscoll to switch wings maybe?
I think to be be truly a team to be feared either hurley or o neill needs to be able to come deeper and switch with donncha or collins. Otherwise its rigid and allows the opposition plan their match ups.

You start with defence

It's for all attacking Barry Driscoll etc as unit conceded too much
Half backs don't need score once defend and forwards score

Ken
Shields cadogan Cronin
Loughrey clancy Brian Driscoll
Deane o Connor
O rourke
Collins kelly
Hurley o Neill and donnacha

Kevin Driscoll comes in fray but it's him or brother brother
But he would be very much contention

Kerrigan shouldn't done what done wouldn't start him next game

thinkstoomuch1 wrote:

I don't know what whelan is taking about on the Sunday game Cork defensively structure was good

thinkstoomuch1 wrote:

We conceded huge score

To be fair, the two goals at least had nothing to do with your defensive structure.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

You start with defence

It's for all attacking Barry Driscoll etc as unit conceded too much
Half backs don't need score once defend and forwards score

Ken
Shields cadogan Cronin
Loughrey clancy Brian Driscoll
Deane o Connor
O rourke
Collins kelly
Hurley o Neill and donnacha

Kevin Driscoll comes in fray but it's him or brother brother
But he would be very much contention

Kerrigan shouldn't done what done wouldn't start him next game

I wouldnt be starting o rourke straight away after a shoulder injury in a big game. Few challenge games first to get rid of the fear of re injuring that are a part of getting back into it after a spell out.
id keep deane til later but give him more game time. Could be ace up the sleeve regards midfield

Cusack gave great piece on Cork new system showing signs at last change
In Ellis sweeper full back never left the zone and Cork two man half forward left inside and Harnedy being immense cork

Great sight jbm and landers landers clearly argument point
You want that your coach challenge view
Only way cork change system is landers fights corner as others are old school cork


Is it too late

It could be but we get limerick may get another game under belt
Clare with McGrath and honan conlon Donnell kelly Cunningham all choose from and colm galvin serious fire power and would test cork defence and even kk defence there that good
Let's hope we avoid clare

Redsoxfan wrote: »

To be fair, the two goals at least had nothing to do with your defensive structure.

Ist goal was in doughue cut in and beat loughrey to cause ball danger zone and clear goal chance at the end


Second penalty was also in best man kerry forward o donughe should been man marked by Cronin stick him like glue but when loughrey attacked more the gap was there Collins had defend


Collins can't be blamed as more sweeper than a defender one v one so even though wasn't penalty fact is even blanket best kerry forwards should be man marked by man marker


Kerry done that to Murphy last year in the all ireland final
One man on him and he never swapped
He's only role was Murphy and while he got support from others he stayed with Murphy
If Murphy went to the toilet he was going with him

Deco99 wrote: »

Agreed

Donnacha was outstanding today absolutely outstanding

does anyone know what time the replay is on ?

rebelomar wrote: »

Are you saying Shields should be dropped because of one error?

No no I named him team next day

Huge fan him

But I meant today struggling so instead Cronin off Shields should went off Cronin in corner with dorman on but would had defensive player over dorman who brilliant but attack minded

http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-padraig-hughes-munster-sfc-2199547-Jul2015/

Everything brolly says he's not wrong
Some valid points
Poor referring for that goal but referee didn't deserve be confronted by fans either

Not right see that in the game