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Galway GAA discussion thread

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    I'm afraid it doesn't matter who we get for the rest of the year if KW hasn't started working on a kick out strategy.

    You will not beat a team like Dublin if they're winning 95% of their kick outs while ye kick yours willy nilly to some random area hoping ye win the roll of the dice.
    Even Mayo have a strategy, not as successful as Dublins but they got at least one score direct from a short kick out in Salthill while we kicked at least 3 long balls where Mayo had an extra man arriving.

    You're going nowhere without a strategy these days, teams like Dublin will get a shot at goal 4 from 5 of their own kicks while teams like ourselves may lose 4/5 in a row and hit dry patches..... Doesn't matter what players you have if on that one stat line you're going to be 4/5 points down.

    yea you need to gain your kickouts or the opposing teams kickouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Ah! Have we got a full back for the next game?


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Roquentin wrote: »
    yea you need to gain your kickouts or the opposing teams kickouts.

    At the very least you need to win your own.
    Our short kick outs are the ones where a full back line player is open and takes it stationary, the ones you want are the Dublin type dropped to somewhere between the two back lines and runners taking the ball inside at pace running from the full back line.
    You're not beating any of the top teams in the modern game if you're just playing of instinct and kicking it anywhere.

    I was disappointed to see KW didn't bring this as it was a negative during AM tenure and it's a necessity in the modern game.

    I think we'll be able to get by any of the qualifier teams as we are but the points differential against the top teams will be too high with that one stat line alone.


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Going to bump this as its not acceptable to see an inactive thread midweek before a Leinster final of all days... :)

    I see talk of Rice over on the KK thread, have to say I thought he retired/dropped off their panel and had to investigate to find out while he's nearly 32 now he just returned from a long term injury.
    He would be a massive asset to a squad I personally feel is coming back to the pack.
    It looks unlikely we'd see him this year though unless we see a repeat pairing from 2012 but even still with his age and the absence we might not have to worry about them reacquiring an ace.

    While the bookies seem to have this priced like most of our games over the years I think we're in a far stronger position than 2014 with an all star calibre addition in P.Mannion and second year improvements to Flynn, Mannion, D.Burke along with Glynn and J.Cooney who are also establishing themselves more.
    Oh their side, they lost only one starter but they've lost a full bench of experience which needs to be called upon during games and when injuries occur... Like most others I cant say I knew most of their subs from last week and it's a pivotal change that these lads will he coming on instead of multiple all stars.

    The key to stopping them will be Hogan and Reid, Larkin and Power can do damage but TJ and Hogan are the sparks in the forwards.
    I think this is the first KK team in a while where you could say "would he make the Galway team?" Or vice versa and there would be more than Canning on that list.

    The also have issues again with free taking, Hogan switched off again last time out, that's bothering them for years.

    I'll hold praise of the Wexford performance (in terms of it being business as usual for KK regardless of the personal) for the fact Limerick did the same thing to Wexford last year so they had prior and some of their play was beyond amateurish.

    Game could go anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if we gave them a bit of a beating we're creating lots of goal chances and Canning or Glynn could go to town at FF.
    I think it'll simply come down to who scores more goals and we're a bit shaky there.

    I think either way as long as we go close we can hold hope for a decent 1/4 for the first time in 10 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Should be an exciting, high scoring game. Could go either way alright. Hopefully the ruthlessness they displayed against Dublin and Laois isn't temporary and they tear into KK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    We seem to only beat the cats when nobody sees it coming, at least I never do tongue.png
    If that's the case this time we are getting well beaten next Sunday.


    Hopefully history will get thrown out this time and Galway preform like we know they can and win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭orl


    Really looking forward to the match on Sunday. It will be a real test for both teams. My team would be

    Calanan
    Moore Hanberry P Mannion
    Coen Tan Daithi Burke
    Smyth Harte
    David Burke Donnelan Glynn
    C Mannion JC Flynn

    David Collins is injured. I always feel sorry when that happens to a captain.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    orl wrote: »
    Really looking forward to the match on Sunday. It will be a real test for both teams. My team would be

    Calanan
    Moore Hanberry P Mannion
    Coen Tan Daithi Burke
    Smyth Harte
    David Burke Donnelan Glynn
    C Mannion JC Flynn

    David Collins is injured. I always feel sorry when that happens to a captain.

    donnellan is an enigma. plays brilliant some days and then terrible. i think joe cooney would be better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Roquentin wrote: »
    donnellan is an enigma. plays brilliant some days and then terrible. i think joe cooney would be better

    Not sure if serious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Roquentin wrote: »
    donnellan is an enigma. plays brilliant some days and then terrible. i think joe cooney would be better

    Bit unfair on Donellan, you have essientally described the entire Galway team of the last 25 years.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Not sure if serious

    cyrill donnellan is not reliable. you dont know which cyrill will turn up. hes clumsy as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Roquentin wrote: »
    cyrill donnellan is not reliable. you dont know which cyrill will turn up. hes clumsy as well.

    He is the first player I would have in the half forward line or at centre back. Superior player to Cooney, Flynn, David Burke, Smyth and even Tan as a centre back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Roquentin wrote: »
    cyrill donnellan is not reliable. you dont know which cyrill will turn up. hes clumsy as well.

    And you're advocating replacing him with Joseph Cooney?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    And you're advocating replacing him with Joseph Cooney?

    who else is there. lads, relying on cyrill donnellan, ye wont win much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    The same Cyril Donnellan that's having his best season in a Galway jersey this year?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    The same Cyril Donnellan that's having his best season in a Galway jersey this year?

    what about all the other seasons?

    we will see on sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭galwaylad14


    Roquentin wrote: »
    cyrill donnellan is not reliable. you dont know which cyrill will turn up. hes clumsy as well.

    You haven't a clue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Roquentin wrote: »
    what about all the other seasons?

    we will see on sunday
    He's been injured an awful lot


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    You haven't a clue

    neither have you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Good result for Galway in the intermediate championship. They beat KK 3-22 to 1-17 this evening.

    Galway have a good chance to go far in the competition this year now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭T0001


    Fairly good win for the Imtermediate Team. Into final now v. Wexford on the 15th July. Should be contenders for honours givent heir performance. Might give the Seniors a boost of confidence for SUnday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    Kilkenny will more than likely hammer us on Sunday anyway.


    I have some turf ready for grogeens anyway so I might as well stay out of contact for the day and try and judge Michael Lester's face at the start of the Sunday game cool.png


    I will record the match for the sake of it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Going to bump this as its not acceptable to see an inactive thread midweek before a Leinster final of all days... :)

    I see talk of Rice over on the KK thread, have to say I thought he retired/dropped off their panel and had to investigate to find out while he's nearly 32 now he just returned from a long term injury.
    He would be a massive asset to a squad I personally feel is coming back to the pack.
    It looks unlikely we'd see him this year though unless we see a repeat pairing from 2012 but even still with his age and the absence we might not have to worry about them reacquiring an ace.

    While the bookies seem to have this priced like most of our games over the years I think we're in a far stronger position than 2014 with an all star calibre addition in P.Mannion and second year improvements to Flynn, Mannion, D.Burke along with Glynn and J.Cooney who are also establishing themselves more.
    Oh their side, they lost only one starter but they've lost a full bench of experience which needs to be called upon during games and when injuries occur... Like most others I cant say I knew most of their subs from last week and it's a pivotal change that these lads will he coming on instead of multiple all stars.

    The key to stopping them will be Hogan and Reid, Larkin and Power can do damage but TJ and Hogan are the sparks in the forwards.
    I think this is the first KK team in a while where you could say "would he make the Galway team?" Or vice versa and there would be more than Canning on that list.

    The also have issues again with free taking, Hogan switched off again last time out, that's bothering them for years.

    I'll hold praise of the Wexford performance (in terms of it being business as usual for KK regardless of the personal) for the fact Limerick did the same thing to Wexford last year so they had prior and some of their play was beyond amateurish.

    Game could go anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if we gave them a bit of a beating we're creating lots of goal chances and Canning or Glynn could go to town at FF.
    I think it'll simply come down to who scores more goals and we're a bit shaky there.

    I think either way as long as we go close we can hold hope for a decent 1/4 for the first time in 10 years.

    Think that's a bit optimistic. Maybe Mannion on current form, but who else???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Think that's a bit optimistic. Maybe Mannion on current form, but who else???
    Both Mannions maybe? Callinan too I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭wackokid


    Roquentin wrote: »
    donnellan is an enigma. plays brilliant some days and then terrible. i think joe cooney would be better

    Is Burke also on the football team ? Anybody?


  • Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Think that's a bit optimistic. Maybe Mannion on current form, but who else???
    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Both Mannions maybe? Callinan too I'd say.

    Id say Callanan is among the top 2/3 in the country and that's being reserved as I couldn't think of a goalie above him.

    P.Mannion is a class act, better than Cathal Imo, who also has came on a lot in year two.
    I saw a lad put down his performance against Dub in the other thread citing an injured FB which is ridicules as they weren't FF goals and that's irrelevant. He also got 3 pts in the test first game. He's better than 2/3 of the starting KK forwards Imo.

    C.Cooney was our best player last year and he's better than a few of their forwards.

    Isn't much between Glynn and W.Walsh either, in fact if you'd enough ball winners at HF and utilised him at FF where he couldn't command help (leaving their men) he'd score a lot of goals/win penalties.

    Daithi Burke also is one of the better young players around now.
    That's 3/4 starters with another 1/2 closely.

    Obviously this is up for debate but it I really don't think lads like Holden, Joyce, Aylward, Walsh, J.Power etc are in any way comparable to their predecessors who where a fine group of once in a generation players... In our talk like having 6/7 Joe Cannings.
    wackokid wrote: »
    Is Burke also on the football team ? Anybody?

    Never... He's not as good of a footballer though watching him for Corofin. Not to say he's bad just not as good as his hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭T0001


    Id say Callanan is among the top 2/3 in the country and that's being reserved as I couldn't think of a goalie above him.

    P.Mannion is a class act, better than Cathal Imo, who also has came on a lot in year two.
    I saw a lad put down his performance against Dub in the other thread citing an injured FB which is ridicules as they weren't FF goals and that's irrelevant. He also got 3 pts in the test first game. He's better than 2/3 of the starting KK forwards Imo.

    Given current form Callanan has to be top goalie. He's not easily beaten and his puck-outs have come on in leaps and bounds the last few months in paticular. I felt he was hard done by last year against KK (replay) and Tipperary. 3 soft goals in each which were not his fault. For 1 of the KK goals and 2 Tipp goals he made the inital save but the FB line made a balls of clearing it and gave the forwards a second chance. The two goals he conceeded this year have been from 6-8 yards out and absolute bullets, no one would have stopped them. If Galway can make a semi-final, barring Waterford winning the All-Ireland (S. O'Keffe getting the AS cause its like a new AI champion) he should get a deserved All-Star.

    Padraic always has been a better hurler than Cathal. They play for my local club and it was very evident. He had a bad injury (back I think) for the previous 2 years and couldn't try out for the seniors. At club level hes like one of the Mayo footballers Wing-Backs, hoovering up ball and running up to score. I'm adamant his best position is Wing Back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Id say Callanan is among the top 2/3 in the country and that's being reserved as I couldn't think of a goalie above him.

    P.Mannion is a class act, better than Cathal Imo, who also has came on a lot in year two.
    I saw a lad put down his performance against Dub in the other thread citing an injured FB which is ridicules as they weren't FF goals and that's irrelevant. He also got 3 pts in the test first game. He's better than 2/3 of the starting KK forwards Imo.

    C.Cooney was our best player last year and he's better than a few of their forwards.

    Isn't much between Glynn and W.Walsh either, in fact if you'd enough ball winners at HF and utilised him at FF where he couldn't command help (leaving their men) he'd score a lot of goals/win penalties.

    Daithi Burke also is one of the better young players around now.
    That's 3/4 starters with another 1/2 closely.

    Obviously this is up for debate but it I really don't think lads like Holden, Joyce, Aylward, Walsh, J.Power etc are in any way comparable to their predecessors who where a fine group of once in a generation players... In our talk like having 6/7 Joe Cannings.



    Never... He's not as good of a footballer though watching him for Corofin. Not to say he's bad just not as good as his hurling.


    I hadn't really considered Cooney as he has been injured. No question - an in form Conor Cooney would make a combined team. Probably him & Canning along with Reid, Fennelly, Hogan & Larkin would make up the forward line for me.

    Think you are being a bit harsh on the likes of Holden & Joyce. Are they as good as players like Hogan & Delaney? No, of course not (although who knows what they will become by the end of their career....). However, I genuinely feel that both would get a place on the Galway team.

    Anyway, I am delighted with my negativity as every time (w/o fail) that I have predicted an easy Kilkenny win against Galway in the past, Galway have won! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭MfMan


    I hadn't really considered Cooney as he has been injured. No question - an in form Conor Cooney would make a combined team. Probably him & Canning along with Reid, Fennelly, Hogan & Larkin would make up the forward line for me.

    Think you are being a bit harsh on the likes of Holden & Joyce. Are they as good as players like Hogan & Delaney? No, of course not (although who knows what they will become by the end of their career....). However, I genuinely feel that both would get a place on the Galway team.

    Anyway, I am delighted with my negativity as every time (w/o fail) that I have predicted an easy Kilkenny win against Galway in the past, Galway have won! :-)

    David Burke at his best is a much better hurler than Colin Fennelly and at least on a par with Larkin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,550 ✭✭✭✭cson


    MfMan wrote: »
    David Burke at his best is a much better hurler than Colin Fennelly and at least on a par with Larkin.

    No, he's not.

    And lads; the talk about All Stars for Callanan already? We're 3 matches into the Championship ffs.


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