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Paganism

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    I have met a couple of witches.. but not of the broomstick variety. They told me they practiced a 'pagan' religion which involved directing various forms of positive energy into their bodies. They also worked a lot with wild herbs.

    I also knew a guy that trained in the ancient craft of druidism.. there was a course in North Donegal about 10 years ago where you could become a druid.


    Imo it is no different to the transformation of bread and wine into the body and blood of Jesus on the alter, and the burning of incense and rubbing black ashes on everyones forehead on ash Wednesday, and the angelus every day at 12 noon and 6pm... bong, bong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Candie wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind a cloak either. Its a versatile item, you can play Batman or Jane Austen or Little Red Riding Hood. Of course it has to be red for the last one.

    What's the smell version of an invisibility cloak? I wish your man I met the other night had one of those. He stank of sweat and class C narcotics.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's the smell version of an invisibility cloak? I wish your man I met the other night had one of those. He stank of sweat and class C narcotics.

    It's called soap and water.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's the smell version of an invisibility cloak? I wish your man I met the other night had one of those. He stank of sweat and class C narcotics.

    Lynx


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Buzz Meeks


    There was a witch who used to post in AH a lot.

    Thaedyal


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    I have met a couple of witches.. but not of the broomstick variety. .

    My mother in law's a witch - still goes to mass every sunday though :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Bit of dancing, thanking the sun for doing its job, great jewellery.

    I could be up for that.

    Plus there's a better chance of promotion for my womanly self than in the Catholic church where I'd be stuck arranging flowers for the rest of my life.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    Bit of dancing, thanking the sun for doing its job, great jewellery.

    I could be up for that.

    Plus there's a better chance of promotion for my womanly self than in the Catholic church where I'd be stuck arranging flowers for the rest of my life.

    Equal opportunity brainwashing for all!

    You're right about the jewelry too. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    I can't understand how anyone can believe rubbish like this. Aren't all druidic and witchcraft ceremonies and beliefs just 19th and 20th century inventions. Wicca was invented in the mid 20th century by an English bloke with a penchant for nakedness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I pray to the Old Gods and the New.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    c_man wrote: »
    I pray to the Old Gods and the New.

    WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIIIEEEEEE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lizzyman


    I can't understand how anyone can believe rubbish like this. Aren't all druidic and witchcraft ceremonies and beliefs just 19th and 20th century inventions. Wicca was invented in the mid 20th century by an English bloke with a penchant for nakedness.

    Yep. So is Christianity, Islam and every other religion. All makey-uppy nonsense.

    Anyone who disagrees with me is welcome to offer one shred of evidence for any form of supernatural deity and I'll recant and change my sinful ways.

    Yeah, didn't think so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    lizzyman wrote: »
    Yep. So is Christianity, Islam and every other religion. All makey-uppy nonsense.

    Anyone who disagrees with me is welcome to offer one shred of evidence for any form of supernatural deity and I'll recant and change my sinful ways.

    Yeah, didn't think so.
    What do they have to do with anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lizzyman


    c_man wrote: »
    I pray to the Old Gods and the New.

    Is the god of fire included in those?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    I can't understand how anyone can believe rubbish like this. Aren't all druidic and witchcraft ceremonies and beliefs just 19th and 20th century inventions. Wicca was invented in the mid 20th century by an English bloke with a penchant for nakedness.

    So you're saying that one should judge the credibility of a belief system on the basis of its longevity? Not sure that necessarily follows. As regards modern Wicca having a single origin in the teachings of Aleister Crowley I'm not too sure on that, you might be giving him a little too much credit. Even if it was solely down to him, there's probably worse people to be inspired by. The guy had a reputation for throwing one hell of a party.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I never seem to end up at parties with pagan witches.





    Thanks be to fcuk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    lizzyman wrote: »
    Yep. So is Christianity, Islam and every other religion. All makey-uppy nonsense.

    Anyone who disagrees with me is welcome to offer one shred of evidence for any form of supernatural deity and I'll recant and change my sinful ways.

    Yeah, didn't think so.

    Please be careful. You'll just annoy atheists into joining the priesthood from a perverse sense of annoyance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Well Ive been a Wiccan since I was 17, but took my 20s to really know what it was about without the showiness etc that you would hear, nothing major about it - like everything its as showy or big as you make it :)
    I dont advertise myself as such, unless specifically asked what faith I am/have chosen, I wouldnt call it a reiligon though, imho its more a faith based on morals which make sense believing in some kind of magick in the air/around us, thats it really, to me anyway :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    lizzyman wrote: »

    No just The God of Tits and Wine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Custardpi wrote: »
    So you're saying that one should judge the credibility of a belief system on the basis of its longevity? Not sure that necessarily follows. As regards modern Wicca having a single origin in the teachings of Aleister Crowley I'm not too sure on that, you might be giving him a little too much credit. Even if it was solely down to him, there's probably worse people to be inspired by. The guy had a reputation for throwing one hell of a party.
    No, I'm saying that claiming to be a pagan or Druid and that you are taking part in an ancient form of worship is bull**** as those religions were invented pretty recently. No one knows for sure what the historic pagans believed or what their rituals consisted of so all of their ceremonial stuff has just been made up recently. We have a fair idea of the names of some of their gods and that they practiced sacrifice and held ceremonies around particular solar events but we have no idea what they chanted, if they did at all, or what else these ceremonies consisted of at least we don't know enough specific details that you could say you are performing the same rituals as they did.

    I was referring to a guy called Gerard Gardner not Aleister Crowley who made Wicca up. He had a couple of dozen middle class types who used to come up to the woods near his house to get naked and he based a religion around this while claiming it was ancient.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Well Ive been a Wiccan since I was 17, but took my 20s to really know what it was about without the showiness etc that you would hear, nothing major about it - like everything its as showy or big as you make it :)
    I dont advertise myself as such, unless specifically asked what faith I am/have chosen, I wouldnt call it a reiligon though, imho its more a faith based on morals which make sense believing in some kind of magick in the air/around us, thats it really, to me anyway :)

    Cool... could you tell me where the goddam TV remote is, it's been missing for the last 4 days and I've searched everywhere?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lizzyman


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Well Ive been a Wiccan since I was 17, but took my 20s to really know what it was about without the showiness etc that you would hear, nothing major about it - like everything its as showy or big as you make it :)
    I dont advertise myself as such, unless specifically asked what faith I am/have chosen, I wouldnt call it a reiligon though, imho its more a faith based on morals which make sense believing in some kind of magick in the air/around us, thats it really, to me anyway :)

    I just read the Wikipedia article on it. Moon Goddess and Horned God? Magick (sic) ? Casting spells? I suppose it's no more outlandish than the Christians and their crucifixion fetish /zombie coming from the dead or Muslims with Mohammad riding up to heaven on a winged horse.

    Would you not just stop and think to yourself that the whole lot is utter nonsense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭brandnewaward


    chick I worked with ages ago was a white witch, indulged in a lot of weed and sex parties which was completely unrelated to being a witch , but many the awesome saturday night was had with her :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭il gatto


    Bonfire night a few nights ago. Kinda cool to think it's still going since pagan times.
    As far as the OP goes, avoid the g@b****e. Life is too short to feign interest in some sad tw@ts "look at me" fad. Like the only gay in the village or the guy who always had no interest in sport but nowadays wrecks your head with NFL stats and says he's love to see Tom Brady play fly half for Leinster. Get to f@ck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭il gatto


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Well Ive been a Wiccan since I was 17, but took my 20s to really know what it was about without the showiness etc that you would hear, nothing major about it - like everything its as showy or big as you make it :)
    I dont advertise myself as such, unless specifically asked what faith I am/have chosen, I wouldnt call it a reiligon though, imho its more a faith based on morals which make sense believing in some kind of magick in the air/around us, thats it really, to me anyway :)

    Can you not have morals without a faith? Why the need for the structure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    I was introduced to a friend of a friend at a party there last weekend when we got into our hobbies and interests.

    Instead of informing him that I have almost 30,000 posts on an internet forum I was telling him about my other passions (exercising, languages etc) and he told me that he was a pagan witch.

    "Excuse me?"

    Apparently, it's true. He is a pagan witch of some sort, away with the faeries and dancing in the woods or whatever with the other... witches.

    I couldn't stand to be seen with such a loser any more so I let him know his beliefs were complete bobbins and decided to join my other friends for a game of beer pong instead. We lost. Your man probably cursed us.

    Anyway. Have you met any witches? Are you a witch? Is this a form of mental illness?

    Is saying you're a witch any more mental than saying you converse with the creator of the universe every night? Imagine 85% of the population of Ireland were pagan witches and only a few hundred claimed they worshipped a lad who walked on water, turned water into wine, died for our sins (that he/his dad gave us in the first place) by being tortured to death and despite having a monopoly on kindness, still sends people to hell (a place he/his dad created).

    The only reason paganism seems so weird is because it's not as widely adhered to as christianity. When you really look at religions you'll see they're all mad. The minor ones just stand out more...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    Bit of dancing, thanking the sun for doing its job, great jewellery.

    I could be up for that.

    Plus there's a better chance of promotion for my womanly self than in the Catholic church where I'd be stuck arranging flowers for the rest of my life.

    Or making a nice cup of tea :)

    Also, nice name. I love Flight of the Conchords...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭il gatto


    GerB40 wrote: »
    Is saying your a witch any more mental than saying you converse with the creator of the universe every night? Imagine 85% of the population of Ireland we're pagan witches and only a few hundred claimed they worshipped a lad who walked on water, turned water into wine, died for our sins (that he/his dad gave us in the first place) by being tortured to death and despite having a monopoly on kindness, still sends people to hell (a place he/his dad created).

    The only reason paganism seems so weird is because it's not as widely adhered to as christianity. When you really look at religions you'll see they're all mad. The minor ones just stand out more...

    Tradition I suppose. Widely practised for centuries as opposed to a "rediscovered" ancient practice with scant real detail being made up as they went along in the last century. No less valid maybe, but without any real foundation or tradition. A bit sad really.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't know about a religion as such but lots of people have has mystical experiences in nature ( minus any chemical help ) I have had that its called a peak experience a sense of complete connectedness to every thing in the universe the bounders between self and the universe dissolves it only lasts a few minuets. I can see how after that some people come to believe that god is a nature god/life-force and turn to something like paganism which is very much connected to the natural life cycle.

    I am getting a green man symbol for my garden its symbol I find peaceful and represents renewal in nature.

    Why cant you 'believe' in Christianity, Paganism, Buddhism, Islam all at the same time if that help you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    I wretched slightly.

    Ungood English!

    You could say 'I am slightly wretched' or, perhaps closer to your true intended meaning, 'I retched slightly'.


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