Paying into Nighclubs

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

You know most the best DJs are great producers as well, right?

Oh yes. I lived with three DJs. I know all about the "music" they "create". Sitting on their laptops mixing different samples around.
You'll forgive me if i still dont quite see them as musicians.

ScumLord wrote: »

That's the lifestyle they sell but's it's usually more like a cattle mart full of drunken, vomiting monkeys listening to distorted noise from speakers that weren't designed for the volume their outputting.

I've been to all sorts of parties/raves/clubs across Europe that are fun, but what we pass off as a nightclub in this country is just a venue for fleecing drunks. It's not fun, it's certainly not worth the money and the only reason people use them is because their drunk and would accept any old shyte.

If you look at the bookings for the Twisted Pepper you'll see that the quality of acts is up there with anything in Europe and they have a Funktion One soundsystem that shakes the hairs on your arms in the basement.

Like I said, I agree that most clubs in Ireland (and everywhere) are ****e. But the sentiment here seems to be that all of them are ****e.

Deleted User wrote: »

You haven't offered up your own tastes for analysis!

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Anything that isnt The Pogues or Metallica can go to Hell

Like a burned-out ould lad at the bar in Fibbers muttering incomprehensibly about Rory Gallagher and "real instruments,"

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

For Christ's sake, the OP is clearly talking about your standard nightclub, not going to see an established DJ play a proper set. How many people need to point this out?

The OP has clarified his position but there are enough posters on this thread implying that it's a choice between a terrible nightclub or a pub/late bar to suggest that people think that all nightclubs are cut from the same cloth as Coppers.

Menas wrote: »

I'll tell ya....kids of today dont know how lucky they are.
Back in the early-mid 90's all pubs closed at 11 or so (well, the vast majority of them did).

If you wanted a late drink you had to go to a nightclub.
And of course nightclubs had long queues outside them, big money to get in...and lousy quality overpriced drinks inside. That assumes you got in.
One club in dublin that I used to go to- Ri Ra, seemed to have a 'turn away every fifth person in the queue' policy...so if there were a gang of ye chances were that all would not get in!

But if you got tuned away at least you got a head start on the two hour taxi queue.

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I really don't see the need for clarification though. If 'nightclub' is being put forward as an alternative to a late bar, it's fairly obvious people aren't talking about a proper club with proper DJs.

I'd like to think so but I've seen enough posters here earnestly say that there's been no good music made since the 90s to have formed the opinion that some people are just completely oblivious to anything resembling contemporary subculture.

This is like if someone complained about those tools who sing badly over a backing track in some ****ty bar, then having a load of people taking offence because the person said going to see a live band is stupid.

Would it not be like someone starting a thread called "Live music is ****," having people agree with him that live music is indeed ****, only for it to turn out that what was meant was that live music played in your local pub is ****?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The DJ we happily pay to see produces no music.

If he did, I'd have no interest in it. I want to hear good deep house. Not his efforts.

I know a girl who plays guitar, she sings in bars, covers all that Janis Ian/Tracy Chapman stuff. Not sure why she bothers. After all, obviously she is neither of them!

A few definitions wouldn't go astray in this thread:

Nightclub DJ: Mid 40's, beer belly, is "great craic" and will demonstrate this the odd time by talking over the latest pop music or greatest hits he's playing, playlist on laptop.

Older Club DJ: Can no longer talk due to all the pills taken, plays (a form of) dance music on vinyl.

New Club DJ: Younger than the nightclub DJ and no beer belly, this guy works out, but just as likely to be carrying a laptop as Nightclub DJ. Trys to play same music as Older Club DJ but can't resist a bit of hip hop or the likes.

Superstar DJ: Some French lad enjoying his 15 mins, he has created a "summer anthem" and now doing the festival circuit, he presses play on his own mix and kids love him until next summer.

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Lot of cranky old men ITT. Calling someone an idiot for preferring a nightclub to a late bar is a little pathetic. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean people who do are stupid. I say this as someone who doesn't particularly like nightclubs or house music or any of this DJ shtuff. There's a distinct difference in the atmosphere of the average club and the average pub. A lot of people are willing to pay for the club atmosphere.

Ahh fcuk! I was totally in agreement with you right up until this bit -

Clubs are primarily for the younger crowd, ie. 23 and under.

I'm 38 and the club I go to, or that I prefer to go to, most of the people there are in their late 20's - early 40's. There are of course the kindergarten clubs that cater to the teenage trend-setters that can't yet manage to hold their liquor and want to neck pills and chew their own jaws, but more and more clubs are over 23's.

Waterford people hate paying for nightclubs while the Cork/Dublin folk dont mind paying to get into a good nightclubs.

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

Like a burned-out ould lad at the bar in Fibbers muttering incomprehensibly about Rory Gallagher and "real instruments,"

Oh noes! Da yoof dont think im hip.