Paying into Nighclubs

Crooked Jack · 24-06-2015 11:29AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Um.

No. They are DJs. And people pay to see them to be entertained.

The same way they pay in to see footballers. Or comedians. Or all those others who keep people entertained but are not "real musicians" because they don't play banjos or whatever. When did "real musicians" become the yardstick for judging what should entertain people?

If you pay to see a comedian he doesnt get up on stage and put on a mashup of Tommy Tiernan DVDs.

But that's an argument for another thread

Reoil · 24-06-2015 11:31AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

profit profit profit.

Covering costs. Breaking even.

24-06-2015 11:33AM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

If you pay to see a comedian he doesnt get up on stage and put on a mashup of Tommy Tiernan DVDs.

But that's an argument for another thread

Again, I did not say DJs and comedians are the same. I have not seen too many get up and dance at a comedy gig.

As I said, they both provide entertainment. People pay to be entertained, but you are right laughing and dancing are two different things.

Incidentally, comedians have made whole careers out of others material. See Denis O'Leary.

Crooked Jack · 24-06-2015 11:37AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, I did not say DJs and comedians are the same. I have not seen too many get up and dance at a comedy gig.

As I said, they both provide entertainment. People pay to be entertained, but you are right laughing and dancing are two different things.

Incidentally, comedians have made whole careers out of others material. See Denis O'Leary.

It's a bird, it's a plane, no, it's my point, flying clean over your head

Mr.Plough · 24-06-2015 11:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Incidentally, comedians have made whole careers out of others material. See Denis O'Leary.

Highlight of Denis O Leary's career was a starring role in My Left Foot, credited as 'Child'.

Denis Leary on the other hand

Gone Drinking · 24-06-2015 11:42AM

Went to Diceys on Sunday. 10 cover charge, but its only 2 quid a drink on Sunday, so its worth it.

cabla · 24-06-2015 11:47AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've paid in to see my local GAA club. They're not Real Madrid either.

Which is why I didn't say "they're all the exact same".

Incidentally, things being the same is your argument, pubs and clubs are the same so why pay into the latter.

Are you a DJ by any chance?

Supporting your local GAA club who probably barely makes ends meat coupled with the fact players don't get paid is still not a comparison you can make to justifying 10 squid in to a club because there's a lad playing tracks that aren't even his.

There's difference levels of entertainment, different levels of effort required by people to provide this entertainment. My question is simply do people think it's worth spending 10 quid into a nightclub or not. Clearly you don't mind as you pay for everything that entertains you which is fair enough.

Also I don't think I mentioned that clubs and pubs are the same.

Fred Swanson · 24-06-2015 11:50AM

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tastyt · 24-06-2015 12:03PM

Nightclubs are ****e.

You can't talk to your mates, you always meet someone you Dont want to who's pissed and starts shouting into your ear about something or other.

You might on a very good night manage to pull but if your not single nightclubs are an absolute disaster. You end up standing around in a group looking at each or looking at women. Or worse, looking at other groups of men doing the same thing.

And the drink is catpiss

cabla · 24-06-2015 12:09PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I actually looked it up briefly. I believe during the prohabition they had "night clubs" where they entertained but obviously for a fee in. When it was lifted I guess they just kept it going as it it was good money and provided enterntainment such as bands etc. You don't get much for your membership these days!

FTA69 · 24-06-2015 12:18PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

It's a nightclub, you kind of expect to pay in. What bugs me is being forced to line up like a spa for ages to give the impression the place is some sort of "happening" spot and then having your clothes judged by some roided up police or army reject who thinks he's hot **** cause someone gave him a black jacket and an id cause he managed to complete a two day bouncers course. Typically, he'll act the hard man until an actual fight breaks out or someone actually needs help at which point he'll be nowhere to be found..

That's nonsense. I was a bouncer for years and was always a man of refined taste and sophistication as well as having a rapier wit. I was beloved by customers and colleagues alike as well as universally feared by rapscallions and knaves.

Skerries · 24-06-2015 12:23PM

Reoil wrote: »

Covering costs. Breaking even.

overpriced drinks take care of that and more

One eyed Jack · 24-06-2015 12:40PM

cabla wrote: »

There's difference levels of entertainment, different levels of effort required by people to provide this entertainment. My question is simply do people think it's worth spending 10 quid into a nightclub or not. Clearly you don't mind as you pay for everything that entertains you which is fair enough.

Also I don't think I mentioned that clubs and pubs are the same.

I usually pay €15 going into a club on a Friday night OP, I think that's good value for the entertainment and the atmosphere and the whole lot, but I know clubs alright which have a €10 charge on the door and honestly they'd have to be paying me the €10 to go in there. Not my kind of place at all.

That said, I've had some good times in late bars too, so I wouldn't be totally against late bars either, but I just prefer the atmosphere in the particular club I go to which I personally think anyway is well worth the €15 cover charge.

I don't mind paying for something which entertains me as long as I feel it's giving me value for my money. Some places do, and some places don't. I go where I get value for money and whether that's a pub or a club or a late bar or whatever really makes no difference to me personally.

suicide_circus · 24-06-2015 01:36PM

The only function of a nightclub is to meet women, absolutely pointless otherwise

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-06-2015 01:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Um.

No. They are DJs. And people pay to see them to be entertained.

The same way they pay in to see footballers. Or comedians. Or all those others who keep people entertained but are not "real musicians" because they don't play banjos or whatever. When did "real musicians" become the yardstick for judging what should entertain people?

People go to nightclubs for the DJs...? Anyone in my experience only ever went to night club try and get laid. The "there's a good DJ" line was usually a very thinly veiled smokescreen.

the evasion_kid · 24-06-2015 01:46PM

Gah this pretty much sums up nightclubs for me,think you just hit an age and see them for what they are..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOO8Fl-XrDg

blackbird 49 · 24-06-2015 01:51PM

My OH was a doorman for a few years in a pub that had a late bar Friday& Saturday night they would have a band on first and then a DJ, it was free in before 11 and E5 after that he could never fathom out people leaving at about 1/1.30 to go to the nightclub down the street and pay E13 in, it would finish at the same time as the late bar

Grayson · 24-06-2015 01:53PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

The only function of a nightclub is to meet women, absolutely pointless otherwise

Nonsense. It's not the only reason.
It's 1:30am. You're locked. You don't want top go home. So in your drunken stupidity you go to a nightclub so the night can keep going. You pay to get in. You queue for the bar. You eventually get a vastly overpriced drink. Then you drink for another hour or two.

next morning you wake up and see that stupid stamp on your hand and think "Why the **** did I do that".

24-06-2015 02:25PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

It's a bird, it's a plane, no, it's my point, flying clean over your head

Your point being you hate DJs.

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Oh god, youre not about to start trying to convince people that DJs are real musicians are you?

Or they are not "real musicians"...because God forbid anyone could be entertained by anything other than these "real musicians"! And it was such an original point, like no one has ever said that before!

cabla wrote: »

Are you a DJ by any chance?

Nope, just someone who likes dance and electronic music and will happily pay to see a good DJ. What's your take on that genre?

cabla · 24-06-2015 02:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Your point being you hate DJs.

Or they are not "real musicians"...because God forbid anyone could be entertained by anything other than these "real musicians"! And it was such an original point, like no one has ever said that before!

Nope, just someone who likes dance and electronic music and will happily pay to see a good DJ. What's your take on that genre?

I think it's scary

Rough Sleeper · 24-06-2015 03:06PM

Yeah, why do people waste their money paying into Space or Berghain when you can just to a pub or late bar instead?

People really show themselves up as ****ing squares who never partied in their youth when they go on like this, as if all night clubs are places you go to get expensive Jagerbombs while listening to the radio at high volume. Their idea of a top night out is a chat with the resident "characters" at the bar and good chips on the way home.

Grayson · 24-06-2015 03:14PM

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

Yeah, why do people waste their money paying into Space or Berghain when you can just to a pub or late bar instead?

People really show themselves up as ****ing squares who never partied in their youth when they go on like this, as if all night clubs are places you go to get expensive Jagerbombs while listening to the radio at high volume. Their idea of a top night out is a chat with the resident "characters" at the bar and good chips on the way home.

Most nightclubs in Ireland are ****holes. The "DJ" just plays a set list that he's pre-downloaded and it's normally a mix of useless R&B lite sh1te.

That's not to say that there aren't some decent clubs with good music. Most are ****. They're dank holes filled with drunk idiots shouting at each other over ****e music.

Crooked Jack · 24-06-2015 03:18PM

Grayson wrote: »

Most nightclubs in Ireland are ****holes. The "DJ" just plays a set list that he's pre-downloaded and it's normally a mix of useless R&B lite sh1te.

That's not to say that there aren't some decent clubs with good music. Most are ****. They're dank holes filled with drunk idiots shouting at each other over ****e music.

I agree with everything except the "in Ireland" specification

Rough Sleeper · 24-06-2015 03:18PM

Grayson wrote: »

Most nightclubs in Ireland are ****holes. The "DJ" just plays a set list that he's pre-downloaded and it's normally a mix of useless R&B lite sh1te.

That's not to say that there aren't some decent clubs with good music. Most are ****. They're dank holes filled with drunk idiots shouting at each other over ****e music.

I agree. Most nightclubs everywhere are crap really. But there are few quality ones that cater to specific musical tastes and years down the line it's the nights out in these places that stick out in my memory rather than the times I got "great" Guinness down the local.

EDIT: As an aside, contemporary R'n'B has fallen out of favour in recent years. Definitely one of the most meritless genres in memory. Commercial dance (the redundantly labelled EDM as the kids call it) seems to be in now.

josip · 24-06-2015 03:28PM

I prefer the nightclubs where you have to pay in order to leave.

tastyt · 24-06-2015 03:32PM

Grayson wrote: »

Most nightclubs in Ireland are ****holes. The "DJ" just plays a set list that he's pre-downloaded and it's normally a mix of useless R&B lite sh1te.

That's not to say that there aren't some decent clubs with good music. Most are ****. They're dank holes filled with drunk idiots shouting at each other over ****e music.

Don't be such a square maaan!!!

ScumLord · 24-06-2015 03:33PM

Pubs are bad enough, nightclubs are a nightmare. I hate packed bars and clubs, I can never understand how people enjoy going to a pub/nightclub on a night out.

Rough Sleeper · 24-06-2015 03:38PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Pubs are bad enough, nightclubs are a nightmare. I hate packed bars and clubs, I can never understand how people enjoy going to a pub/nightclub on a night out.

Top electronic acts, top soundsystems, open socialising with friendly laid-back strangers in a drug-fuelled environment, members of the opposite sex looking for members of the opposite sex, jiving etc.

josip · 24-06-2015 03:39PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Pubs are bad enough, nightclubs are a nightmare. I hate packed bars and clubs, I can never understand how people enjoy going to a pub/nightclub on a night out.

You've never had someone squeeze past you in a packed bar and not enjoyed it even slightly as a wonderful soft squishy pair, in overly tight clothing, rub over the contours of your body?
And then the guy mumbles "sorry mate" as he heads over to the bar.

One eyed Jack · 24-06-2015 03:42PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Pubs are bad enough, nightclubs are a nightmare. I hate packed bars and clubs, I can never understand how people enjoy going to a pub/nightclub on a night out.

Only speaking for myself here, but sometimes I love packed bars and clubs where everyone is just there to enjoy themselves and have a good night. I think generalisations that all clubs are the same or even similar in nature is a bit silly though, it's like the equivalent of everyone's only there to hook up at 2am and the beer goggles are on 'stunned' :pac:

Sometimes though it's nice to meet people with whom you have at least one thing in common, even if everything else about you is chalk and cheese, often makes for the most interesting discussions

Paying into Nighclubs

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