Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

tv221 · 21-06-2015 01:51PM

kaizersoze wrote: »

I'd imagine large corporates in Shannon would have fibre links long ago? Wouldn't they?

Of course. Lots of options. BT corporate network was blistering comparatively speaking. But Eircom have a new product that outdoes it. Haven't had a chance to ask our IT guys what it is

HellboundIRL · 21-06-2015 04:39PM

jca wrote: »

There's an awful lot of activity here in Enniscorrhy K N vans everywhere. The fibre cabinet on top of bohreen hill has grown a new top.

The same thing happening here (Loughrea). Is that new top something to do with FTTH or just an expansion to allow for more customers?

jca · 21-06-2015 04:52PM

HellboundIRL wrote: »

The same thing happening here (Loughrea). Is that new top something to do with FTTH or just an expansion to allow for more customers?

I don't know tbh but the area that that fibre/copper pair serve would be one of the lesser populated areas and with a lot of elderly residents fibre take up would be fairly low. The area I'm in has a lot more houses and as a consequence the copper cabinet got expanded fairly soon after launch but the fibre cab is still standard.

fibrefreak · 22-06-2015 11:01AM

HellboundIRL wrote: »

The same thing happening here (Loughrea). Is that new top something to do with FTTH or just an expansion to allow for more customers?

Could be, eircom will be looking at Loughrea as they are the second to market in this town (egg on the face)
enet delivered FTTB to everyone in the main street 6 months ago

PeadarB · 22-06-2015 11:39AM

fibrefreak wrote: »

Could be, eircom will be looking at Loughrea as they are the second to market in this town (egg on the face)
enet delivered FTTB to everyone in the main street 6 months ago

e|net operates fibre infrastructure, including the State’s Metropolitan Area Networks (MANS). It is essentially an entity that provides fibre to the "business" community. Letterkenny has had a MAN for many years but I'll bet you won't find one private home connected to it.

funnyname · 22-06-2015 12:22PM

PeadarB wrote: »

e|net operates fibre infrastructure, including the State’s Metropolitan Area Networks (MANS). It is essentially an entity that provides fibre to the "business" community. Letterkenny has had a MAN for many years but I'll bet you won't find one private home connected to it.

Lightnet, mainly a wisp rolled out fibre in loughrea last year.

kaizersoze · 22-06-2015 12:45PM

funnyname wrote: »

Lightnet, mainly a wisp rolled out fibre in loughrea last year.

And Ripplecom, also a WISP but doing fibre in Loughrea.

loyatemu · 22-06-2015 02:46PM

funnyname wrote: »

Lightnet, mainly a wisp rolled out fibre in loughrea last year.

kaizersoze wrote: »

And Ripplecom, also a WISP but doing fibre in Loughrea.

presumably both using Enet's fibre; I think Airspeed are doing similar in Ballinasloe.

fibrefreak · 22-06-2015 04:11PM

loyatemu wrote: »

presumably both using Enet's fibre; I think Airspeed are doing similar in Ballinasloe.

Airspeed did Claremorris, Ripplecom have done Loughrea, Ardee and Kilkenny

fibrefreak · 22-06-2015 04:12PM

PeadarB wrote: »

I'll bet you won't find one private home connected to it.

correct PeadarB, its FTTB only

ItHurtsWhenIP · 22-06-2015 05:00PM

fibrefreak wrote: »

correct PeadarB, its FTTB only

Not being pedantic or anything :rolleyes: but in case you think FTTB is Fibre-To-The-Business ... it's not ... it's Fibre-To-The-Building which is what SIRO is doing and it is virtually identical to FTTH (home).

The eNet connections are only targeting businesses in those four locations and it seems strange that they are limiting them to 250Mbps as a max.

The guys over at B4RN give people a gig, because it costs more to give somebody less than that :eek::D.

Nollog · 22-06-2015 09:47PM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

virtually

exactly*

kaizersoze · 23-06-2015 01:13AM

loyatemu wrote: »

presumably both using Enet's fibre; I think Airspeed are doing similar in Ballinasloe.

News to me. It'd be great if true.

Customer of mine in Loughrea is on 50/5 with Ripplecom. Their lowest package I think.

Costing him ~€85 I think. He wasn't too sure himself.

loyatemu · 23-06-2015 09:37AM

kaizersoze wrote: »

News to me. It'd be great if true.

sorry, turns out it's Claremorris, I didn't even get the county right

cunnijo · 24-06-2015 08:14AM

It seems they have started in Naas too. KN Networks have been seen feeding blue cables through underground ducts where existing orange fibre cables are already put in. So August FTTH service start dates look a distinct possibility, maybe even sooner. Bring it on.

PeadarB · 24-06-2015 09:29AM

cunnijo wrote: »

It seems they have started in Naas too. KN Networks have been seen feeding blue cables through underground ducts where existing orange fibre cables are already put in. So August FTTH service start dates look a distinct possibility, maybe even sooner. Bring it on.

Even though the micro-duct installation seems complete, or at least well progressed, in Letterkenny, there is no obvious fibre "blowing" underway in the town.

Despite being named as one of three towns, Cavan and Kilkenny being the others, where the FTTH build was to commence last November, any query to eircom, either via Boards or CSR generates the same vague reply - "we know nothing about that" or "Unfortunately we will be unable to access or offer information of network developments in such detail. At this stage we can assist with queries in relations to FTTC however it is expected that I may be able to assist with FTTH queries towards early next year".
Eircom have spent a lot of time on eVDSL in Letterkenny over the past few months, but the KN lads are flat out with standard FTTC installations, while MCS are micro-ducting all over the place.

At this rate Siro may very well get the jump on them, though to be honest there is absolutely no sign whatsoever of Siro development in Letterkenny.

loyatemu · 24-06-2015 09:39AM

they're committed to a launch of the new products in August (it's in the product roadmap), though it will be a phased rollout they've previously said there will be 16 towns in the initial expansion.

How much extra fibre is actually needed to launch FTTH from the existing cabs anyway? - they supposedly ran extra fibre pairs when commissioning the cabs in the first place, they just need to install the GPON gear and any additional fibre to individual streets and houses will presumably be run as orders come in.

ItHurtsWhenIP · 24-06-2015 10:15AM

I thought that Belcarra was going to be all Gigabit?
https://twitter.com/eircomwholesale/status/613632698968477697

PeadarB · 24-06-2015 10:37AM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

I thought that Belcarra was going to be all Gigabit?
https://twitter.com/eircomwholesale/status/613632698968477697

Might be incorrect but my understanding was that the "E" marker on the ASAM ID designations referred to eVDSL or direct to exchange upgrades. There has been a huge upgrade ongoing for some months in this area. I think the Belcarra FTTH rollout only covered some 160 or so premises.

ED E · 24-06-2015 10:38AM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

I thought that Belcarra was going to be all Gigabit?
https://twitter.com/eircomwholesale/status/613632698968477697

Belcarra is a trial area, its got all the products together. EVDSL, 150, 300, 1G.

loyatemu · 24-06-2015 10:57AM

PeadarB wrote: »

Might be incorrect but my understanding was that the "E" marker on the ASAM ID designations referred to eVDSL or direct to exchange upgrades. There has been a huge upgrade ongoing for some months in this area. I think the Belcarra FTTH rollout only covered some 160 or so premises.

you'd imagine those 160 premises overlap heavily with any connected to the exchange cab (E01) - Belcarra is not a big place.

mass_debater · 24-06-2015 11:01AM

I remember reading an article on Belcarra where Eircom said they'd also be enabling VDSL in the local exchange

ItHurtsWhenIP · 25-06-2015 02:17PM

Interesting ... Seems that Eircom Wholesale are getting into bed with Pure Telecom to be the retail partner for this and the FTTC rollout.

Article here.

Surely people can ask for another provider though?

cunnijo · 25-06-2015 02:37PM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Interesting ... Seems that Eircom Wholesale are getting into bed with Pure Telecom to be the retail partner for this and the FTTC rollout.

Article here.

Surely people can ask for another provider though?

I sincerely hope so. Eircom's retail arm will be certainly part of it. However it will be interesting to see how many more ISP's will join, especially with SIRO also rolling out a FTTH service to 50 towns.

ED E · 25-06-2015 03:05PM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Interesting ... Seems that Eircom Wholesale are getting into bed with Pure Telecom to be the retail partner for this and the FTTC rollout.

Article here.

Surely people can ask for another provider though?

They have to be....I think. Copper infrastructure is covered by the USO and SMP regulations. @BK does it extend to all telco products do you know? If the FTTH product is considered a RAP then they have to offer it on the same basis to all ISPs. Eircom retail are already running it too so thats at least two players.

joe_99 · 25-06-2015 05:03PM

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Interesting ... Seems that Eircom Wholesale are getting into bed with Pure Telecom to be the retail partner for this and the FTTC

Surely people can ask for another provider though?

This is just a standard deal. Pure will use eircom Wholesale for NGA services....as do 10 to 15 other operators such as Voda, Three, Magnet, Digiweb etc. Some operators such as Sky use BT.

bk · 25-06-2015 05:09PM

ED E wrote: »

They have to be....I think. Copper infrastructure is covered by the USO and SMP regulations. @BK does it extend to all telco products do you know? If the FTTH product is considered a RAP then they have to offer it on the same basis to all ISPs. Eircom retail are already running it too so thats at least two players.

Well it wouldn't be covered under the USO, as that just involves Eircom supplying basic phone service and very basic internet over copper.

However Comreg has said they will reconsider the USO obligations in future if Eircom starts replacing copper with FTTH. I expect Comreg will change the USO obligations to also cover FTTH where Eircom replace a copper line with FTTH.

I think the FTTH network would still largely fall under the SMP regulations. It certainly should in rural areas with only one network and definitely under NBP subsidised areas.

Either way from what has been published online, Eircom are definitely opening the FTTH network up to wholesale retail. I think Eircom as a company has changed a lot and is now very comfortable with the idea of being an open and transparent wholesaler.

domeld · 25-06-2015 07:26PM

joe_99 wrote: »

This is just a standard deal. Pure will use eircom Wholesale for NGA services....as do 10 to 15 other operators such as Voda, Three, Magnet, Digiweb etc. Some operators such as Sky use BT.

Pure telecom just to use Magnet wholesale, they had no interconnection to eircom

ElNino · 26-06-2015 09:58AM

Eircom Wholesale to provide up to 1Gb/s broadband services in €20m deal with Pure Telecom

Is the €20m a back of the envelope calculation? Or are Pure Telecom guaranteeing to sell FTTH contracts to that value? It seems like a made up figure for marketing purposes to me.

syboit · 26-06-2015 11:20AM

I might have missed it somewhere, but whats the plan with the last 20/30 feet getting into your house ? I know in my case there is a black trunk coming up inside the door, which is behind the skirting board. Would they try to feed the fibre through the same duct as the copper pair wire ?

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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