Big Brother UK 2015 **Use spoiler tags, mod warning post #1 & 3037**

tipptom wrote: »

I think that's an act from Marc in the DR.
He is changing tack now after what Victor said to him.
If its not he should be ashamed of himself with his whinging.

oh, its a complete act! even yesterday in the bedroom you could see Joel looking at him kind of like "you aren't really crying Mark"! He is well able to switch guises! I think he does lose control of himself during arguments but other than that everything else he does is for the camera or when drunk, whether it be "banter boy", "villain boy", "sam controlling boy", "diary room emotional boy" (i mean pretending to be upset about a f'in bee!!) or whatever other side of him. Fair play to him though, unfortunately it is working for the sadistic audience and voters BB attracts nowadays!

Heat_Wave wrote: »

Sam 100% nominated Harri because she knows the public don't like her and it will reduce the risk of her (Sam) been evicted. No doubt about it.

Marc has really turned into Mr. Nice Guy after hearing the negative feedback he received. He's a very intelligent guy. His so called 'breakdowns' in the diary room is 100% acting IMO. He is playing the game incredibly well.

Danny is a knob. Total cringefest.

I genuinely don't think that Sam is that smart to even think that way. She said she nominated her because she couldn't think of anyone else that, personally, she could nominate for her own reasons but Harri was only person in the house had made her "feel like sh1t a few times" after slagging her, shusshing her at times, and due to w*nkgate which you could see made her uncomfortable. She seems to be a spineless, naive,mindless individual with little ability to take ownership of her own decisions but I genuinely think that was legitimate. Who else would she have nominated?? For personal reasons? Jack, no, Chloe, no, Nick, Joel, no. Simon is Marks ass licker so she wouldnt go against her Commander and despite what Mark was saying Danny has caused her no grievances at all so why would she pick him? Harri was the obvious choice.

Crimsonforce wrote: »

People here should stop saying x or y are playing a game and changing tactics. It's a GAME show where the last one stand it wins..
there all playing games,some just better than others.

Whats wrong with people talking about tactics and tactic changes, I know I do it watching sport why not reality tv. Hell I'd talk about it watching tipping point some people like to talk about that sort of thing

Juicyfruit wrote: »

When did this happen? Last I saw was the episode where Christian nominated Sam from yesterday I thought. Have I missed something?

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=45

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Agreed 100%


A couple of observations on the current remaining housemates
Marc-he's actually a nice lad,despite being an awfull messer in that house,just looking at it from the perspective that he has gone in there to shake the place up,it's been one of the few times a housemate has actually done what they promised
Joel's mum giving Marc that peck on the cheek during the task saying thanks for looking after my boy was very telling,Mammy's are usually right
There are of course a number of contradictions with Marc,I mean being so annoying,speaking his mind but explaining it
My feeling is,if he's such a bollix,why is he so protective of showbiz?

Joel-he mightn't win but by golly he deserves it,solid throughout,unfazed by most things,unafraid to mix it when he disagrees with nonsense
His probing questions are a skill,he's just so interesting for a young lad

Danny-a likeable quintessential English lad with a kind heart,probably a finalist,I do hope he makes it up with Marc on the outside,he cares about people

The rest don't stand out for me

Joels mother has seen the exact same footage as us and the only reason she probably done that was 1) because he was the only person he barely insulted or bitched about and 2) she knows the power he has and wants to protect her son from him so it was a case of keep him on Joels side. She also probably seen him give Joel that bit of advice when he walked in which was, in fairness, a nice gesture. He my be as nice as anything outside but inside he has been creating a bad atmosphere, created divisions, ostracised people, talked down to people, tried to control almost every situation and manipulate stuff to suit his agenda. His constant need to resort to vile language, personal insults, derogatory, disrespectful chat (or banter as he calls it) and bitching about people when he himself says "he is just here for the banter" just shows how nice he is. With regard Joel, he recognises Joel is a thick skinned individual and possibly the only one i there able to intellectually handle Marks behaviour so he doesnt resort to verbal crusades against him. He tried twice and Joel made a show of him so he quickly stopped. Hence staying on his side. Thats generally how bullies work.

Same with Danny. despite Danny launching constant insults and tirrades against him over last few days he still is trying to get on his good side again as he, in my opinion, believes Danny is able to stand up for himself. If anyone else had been as vocal as Danny (see Harri two weeks ago) against Mark he would have destroyed them emotionally. He picks on weaker contestants, age wise, emotionally wise and intellectually wise. Christian, Harri, Brian, Chloe, even Sam (in a different way) etc. He tried it with Jade from day one but she stood up to him so he alligned himself.

He may not recognise he is doing this but it is ingrained in his personality and who he is. He has a superiority complex which some mistake for confidence and has a line of those who are beneath him and if those below that line challenge him he can't take it. he will allign himself with those he feels are on the same level as him or those he knows have his measure (ie Helen, Joel) .

The truth is he can give it but he cant take it and he knows this to a point. So he uses this to control the environment in which he finds himself so as that he comes out not looking foolish. In that respect he is very very street smart and it will get him well through life. But it is not the nicest attribute. Even when he is in the diary room doing his "woe is me" act, his empathy and pity is purely directed towards himself and ho he may be perceived and not to those he feels may have been affected by his behaviour.

I dont think he is an evil guy, I just think he has this superiority complex which has perhaps been bestowed onto him by others or the life he grew up in but he is very self aware and cares not for others that he feels aren't on his level. There is a lot of people out there like him, perhaps not even a small bit as extrovert and perhaps not so secure in themselves or smart.


To conclude a fascinating personality that I wouldnt like to be around but is making for intriguing viewing. Hope he doesn't win as such traits in people need to be tempered, not celebrated.

I agree Joel does deserve to win and I hope he gets some more airtime. He reminds e of someone, personality wise. I cant think whether its a personal aquaintence or someone in the media. Maybe a mixture of a few. But he really makes you smile and he seems to have a lovely good natured vibe about him. I stuck 25 e/w on him at 5/1. I cant see him not being in final so will most likely definitely get my wager back but i am increasingly confident he will go on and win, giving me about 200 back if so!