Charleston shooting

Grayson · 18-06-2015 02:50PM #1

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/charleston-church-shooting-mayor-suspect-will-pay-the-price

I haven't seen another thread about this. A guy went to a prayer meeting, prayed with the people there for about an hour and then shot and killed 9.

That's fcuking messed up. It seems it is politically or racially motivated but there's not a lot of info.

darkpagandeath · 18-06-2015 02:54PM

Could just be easily someone with a beef with religion. But that does not sell papers or rabble rouse. Maybe catch the guy and find out ?

LDN_Irish · 18-06-2015 02:56PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Could just be easily someone with a beef with religion. But that does not sell papers or rabble rouse. Maybe catch the guy and find out ?

The radio said the police believe it's politically motivated. But that doesn't sell radios or something.

mikom · 18-06-2015 02:57PM

Seems like he was a Coen brothers fan.

darkpagandeath · 18-06-2015 02:58PM

LDN_Irish wrote: »

The radio said the police believe it's politically motivated. But that doesn't sell radios or something.

Are people psychic now ?

suicide_circus · 18-06-2015 03:02PM

Thoughts with the families.

Now with this be claimed as a race issue or gun control issue?

Bridge93 · 18-06-2015 03:04PM

What I've heard is it was a black church congregation, one of the oldest and most famous in the South of the US and the gunman was white.

Mr.McLovin · 18-06-2015 03:06PM

more guns needed

darkpagandeath · 18-06-2015 03:06PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

What I've heard is it was a black church congregation, one of the oldest and most famous in the South of the US and the gunman was white.

Heard the same, Does not automatically make it a hate crime. As I said could be to do with Religion or any number of things. They have not even caught the guy, So unless they have information they are not releasing I will wait and see before announcing this or that.

18-06-2015 03:07PM

The pastor/Reverend, who was among the dead, was a state senator.

racso1975 · 18-06-2015 03:09PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

What I've heard is it was a black church congregation, one of the oldest and most famous in the South of the US and the gunman was white.

This is very true. So in that regard given the number of high profile "race" related news stories lately. Is there a race problem in the states or is it a social deprivation problem involving african americans?

whatstherush · 18-06-2015 03:17PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Heard the same, Does not automatically make it a hate crime. As I said could be to do with Religion or any number of things. They have not even caught the guy, So unless they have information they are not releasing I will wait and see before announcing this or that.

Considering he said the following "You're taking over our country. You have to go" I think it safe to assume he wasn't on about Christians.

This is pic of the suspect. Top flag on his jacket is old South African Flag.

18-06-2015 03:22PM

:rolleyes:
NewsOnTheMin
BREAKING: Suspected South Carolina church shooter received a gun as a birthday present in April: uncle tells Reuters
6/18/15, 3:13 PM

frozenfrozen · 18-06-2015 03:31PM

https://twitter.com/NewsOnTheMin/status/611538342069542912

Looks like its a race thing maybe

wes · 18-06-2015 03:37PM

Looks likely to be a White Supremacist terrorist. I remember the last one carrying out an attack on a Sikh Temple.

porsche959 · 18-06-2015 03:40PM

^ He looks like the "Falling Down" character's even angrier younger brother on a particularly bad day.

RollieFingers · 18-06-2015 03:41PM

A life sentence with no parole on a prison wing full of African American inmates is exactly what this sicko deserves!

Killer Wench · 18-06-2015 03:55PM

The Charleston Police Chief and The FBI have already identified this as a hate crime, but I'll just sit back and watch posters argue over how this wasn't a hate crime. Without historical or cultural context or knowledge.

FouxDaFaFa · 18-06-2015 03:56PM

Terrible for the congregation to have lost their pastor, the very person you would turn to for guidance and support at a time like this, in the attack.

That picture of the shooter made me very sad and uncomfortable. He's so young to be driven by so much hate. You'd wonder if he was a member of some kind of group where he absorbed all this rhetoric from older people or if he hid his views from everyone.

folamh · 18-06-2015 04:01PM

Custom time setting on Google search returns a mugshot from when he got arrested for trespassing in April: http://southcarolina.arrests.org/

FouxDaFaFa · 18-06-2015 04:08PM

The second flag on his jacket looks like the Nigerian flag, but he's hardly wearing a Nigerian flag?

Hande hoche! · 18-06-2015 04:08PM

whatstherush wrote: »

Considering he said the following "You're taking over our country. You have to go" I think it safe to assume he wasn't on about Christians.

This is pic of the suspect. Top flag on his jacket is old South African Flag.

Lower flag is that of Rhodesia.

Nodin · 18-06-2015 04:18PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Lower flag is that of Rhodesia.

...think that's enough to win over the jury on the race thing.

Radly · 18-06-2015 04:20PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

The Charleston Police Chief and The FBI have already identified this as a hate crime, but I'll just sit back and watch posters argue over how this wasn't a hate crime. Without historical or cultural context or knowledge.

Sure of course you're going to have a few 'winners' if you back every white on black crime as 'hate crime'. De'marquise Elkins ...cough...cough

Hande hoche! · 18-06-2015 04:20PM

Nodin wrote: »

...think that's enough to win over the jury on the race thing.

Pretty much. Plus only a white supremacist would have such an awful haircut.

LadyFenghuang · 18-06-2015 04:22PM

So sad he was obviously very ill and disturbed. He was given the gun as a gift apparently from an Uncle. I find that crazy. He has radical racist beliefs. One of the flags was a pre-aparthied south African flag. Very sad.

darkpagandeath · 18-06-2015 04:22PM

Nodin wrote: »

...think that's enough to win over the jury on the race thing.

Well the target could have been the senator, And comments about taking over the country. But that's not ruling out hate crime via race or religion either. Seems odd the guy stayed an hour in there like he was making sure of something.

masti123 · 18-06-2015 04:26PM

Apparently he's been caught and is now in custody in North Carolina

Hande hoche! · 18-06-2015 04:29PM

masti123 wrote: »

Apparently he's been caught and is now in custody in North Carolina

Fair play to the cops, thought it might be another Eric Frein. Still expect some to suggest he wouldn't be taken alive if he was black.

pickarooney · 18-06-2015 04:30PM

Well it was hardly a love crime

PressRun · 18-06-2015 04:45PM

Apparently he sat in the church for nearly an hour before opening fire. He left a couple alive so they could tell everyone what he did. Bizarre, hateful stuff.

Racism very much alive and well in the States.

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