Speed checks frequency increasing 10 fold - conspiracy?

veryangryman · 17-06-2015 08:01PM #1

Reading an interview with a national figure about the way the country's recovery is but a figment of the imagination. Some substance with points about jobless figures being massaged with Job-bridge and high suicide rates etc.

Anyway one point really hit me. The current amount of revenue generators nicknamed "flash for cash" on the roads. I'm noticing same myself up and down the country. Mainly on Motorways too.

I appreciate that there are limits to be obeyed etc, but lads isn't this such an easy target/revenue collector. And where was this frequency during the first 3 years of this government? Why the sudden crackdown?

I was wondering where the catch was when PAYE and USC rates went down this year. :mad:

Is there anyone who knows their local cops well enough to see what the latest instructions are? It appears that ALOT of their time is being spent on chasing cars. In the case of the Motorways, its pretty hypocritical where they use them too given recent soundings from AGS. The 2 spots on the M6 that i've seen cops with hairdryers have zero reported casualties since they opened. Something is up.

whiskeyman · 17-06-2015 08:12PM

If you speed, you could get fined.

Not really a conspiracy...

One eyed Jack · 17-06-2015 08:16PM

Ha! I only clicked into this thread because I thought it was about spell checks and the number of grammar pedants on the internet increasing ten fold...

Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along...

veryangryman · 17-06-2015 08:17PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

If you speed, you could get fined.

Not really a conspiracy...

And about the 10 fold frequency of checks?

Bongalongherb · 17-06-2015 08:19PM

They don't give a sh!t about life, it's just a scam to get as much money from you as possible. If it was ever about life, then you would think the government would do something of help in regards to the very high suicide rate in this country.

It's all about the money.

kneemos · 17-06-2015 08:19PM

veryangryman wrote: »

And about the 10 fold frequency of checks?

You just made that up dude.

deise08 · 17-06-2015 08:25PM

Would you believe i was just thinking something myself there this morning.
There's a stretch where a van would be once every month, two months.
Its been there three times already this week.
I drive it every day, in to and out of work. I've never seen it there so often.

5starpool · 17-06-2015 08:39PM

I've noticed them a lot more recently too. Has it not been privatised though, so the governement don't receive most of the money?

PARlance · 17-06-2015 08:56PM

Op, I think you're probably overreacting 5 fold

Mr Rhode Island Red · 17-06-2015 09:01PM

BUT WAIT!!!!

Garda has 5 letters,
Five is a number,
6 is also a number,
Do you know what else is a number??? Two.
Two is also a number,
Number has six letters
The word "six" has 3 letters,
Three is an odd number,
But what does this have to do with The Illuminati? I hear you ask...
LET'S FIND OUT!!!
Garda has five letters
The number 5 is an odd number and so is the number 3
There are 3 sides on a triangle
There are also 3 edges on a Dorito
A Dorito is shaped like a triangle.
Some Gardaí enjoy eating Doritos

Gardai equals ILLOOMYNUTTY CONFURMED!!!!!

keithclancy · 17-06-2015 09:03PM

There's hardly any speed checks in Ireland, even then its a big luminous van at the side of the road covered in yellow stickers.

The speed controls have a 10 percent tolerance while your speedo in the car also has a 10% tolerance.

I would say if you get caught then you were driving too fast anyway.

If it was a revenue generation thing would it make sense to have penalty points ... wouldn't they want you to stay on the road so they could 'tax' you some more ?

Captain Chaos · 17-06-2015 09:06PM

keithclancy wrote: »

The speed controls have a 10 percent tolerance.

Not true at all. People have been done for 1kph over the limit and it wasn't a 10kph limit either.:pac:

veryangryman · 17-06-2015 09:09PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Not true at all. People have been done for 1kph over the limit and it wasn't a 10kph limit either.:pac:

Perhaps it's more personal discretion of the guard. Most do give a roughly ten percent lee

keithclancy · 17-06-2015 09:14PM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Not true at all. People have been done for 1kph over the limit and it wasn't a 10kph limit either.:pac:

You can get done for 1 km/h over the limit in any country, with a 10% tolerance.

oceanman · 17-06-2015 09:21PM

they don't give a toss about deaths on the road.....why would they? its just about revenue. the motorist has always been an easy target..

Aongus Von Bismarck · 17-06-2015 09:21PM

One of the things I like about living here in Germany is the lack of speed limits on certain sections of the rural Autobahn motorway network. Nothing better than testing the wonderful engineering prowess and performance of a good BMW while hitting the road early on a Saturday morning to go hiking in the mountains. Listening to a good podcast on the sound system, knocking off the cruise control, applying a sport mode configuration and really letting go.

Arrive at your destination, having a good solid hearty breakfast, and hitting those slopes for a few hours in nature. Wonderful.

ectoraige · 17-06-2015 11:20PM

veryangryman wrote: »

I appreciate that there are limits to be obeyed etc, but lads isn't this such an easy target/revenue collector.

I don't suppose pointing out that the GoSafe scheme costs more to run than it collects in fines would help change your outlook?

AlekSmart · 17-06-2015 11:31PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

One of the things I like about living here in Germany is the lack of speed limits on certain sections of the rural Autobahn motorway network. Nothing better than testing the wonderful engineering prowess and performance of a good BMW while hitting the road early on a Saturday morning to go hiking in the mountains. Listening to a good podcast on the sound system, knocking off the cruise control, applying a sport mode configuration and really letting go.

Arrive at your destination, having a good solid hearty breakfast, and hitting those slopes for a few hours in nature. Wonderful.

Ah wouldya g'wan oua dah...EVERYBODY knows them Germans are no Craic at all...."Livin to work" n all dat....das rite innit ....innit....?

WE Irish on the other hand really know how to push the boat out !!!!

http://rsa.ie/en/Utility/News/2015/Statement-from-Ms-Liz-ODonnell-Chairperson-Road-Safety-Authority/

The RSA notes the release of figures indicating that the number of Gardaí in the Traffic Corps has fallen from 1,200 in 2009 to approximately :eek: 750 :eek: in 2014. This drop in Traffic Corps numbers is a very worrying trend.

A very worrying trend?...not since Emperor Hirohito described the Hiroshima Bombing as "The course of the War taking a turn,not necessarily to Japan's advantage" has there been such an understatement !!!

Grandeeod · 17-06-2015 11:44PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

One of the things I like about living here in Germany is the lack of speed limits on certain sections of the rural Autobahn motorway network. Nothing better than testing the wonderful engineering prowess and performance of a good BMW while hitting the road early on a Saturday morning to go hiking in the mountains. Listening to a good podcast on the sound system, knocking off the cruise control, applying a sport mode configuration and really letting go.

Arrive at your destination, having a good solid hearty breakfast, and hitting those slopes for a few hours in nature. Wonderful.

Indeed! I often enjoyed lashing down an autobahn here and there, before sloping off to a more rural place like Guttersloh, to enjoy a real hearty breakfast in an amazing cafe. However, I found banging down the GC1 or TF1 in the Canary Islands much more fun because the people tended to be less fecking anal than Germany! I also drove a real state of the art Seat Alhambra at full tilt and it tended to be a smooth ride as I passed German tourists in a VW Polo!

Valetta · 18-06-2015 09:27AM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

They don't give a sh!t about life, it's just a scam to get as much money from you as possible. If it was ever about life, then you would think the government would do something of help in regards to the very high suicide rate in this country.

It's all about the money.

oceanman wrote: »

they don't give a toss about deaths on the road.....why would they? its just about revenue. the motorist has always been an easy target..

Bit harsh.

veryangryman · 18-06-2015 09:30AM

ectoraige wrote: »

I don't suppose pointing out that the GoSafe scheme costs more to run than it collects in fines would help change your outlook?

Not with where they are putting in the vast vast majority of the checks. It maximises their income to do it on Dual Carriageways/Motorways.

If they didn't care bout making money, why not do it where fatal accidents are happening. As i said earlier, i have never heard of a fatal collision on M6 east of the Shannon

anncoates · 18-06-2015 09:33AM

Seems like a excellent fiscal policy.

Generate wealth based on a form of income collection that people can completely avoid by simply observing the law.

What could go wrong?

_Brian · 18-06-2015 10:07AM

5starpool wrote: »

I've noticed them a lot more recently too. Has it not been privatised though, so the governement don't receive most of the money?

The few regular positions round here are quieter now than ever.. Where I would usually see vans parked weekly, now I'd say its three weeks since they have been there.. I can think of four locations I pass near daily and the vans are less evident there..

jimgoose · 18-06-2015 10:13AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

One of the things I like about living here in Germany is the lack of speed limits on certain sections of the rural Autobahn...

I wholeheartedly agree with all this, except the "hiking in the mountains" bit because I'm a lazy sod!

I believe that certain sections of the German body-politik are doing their best to speed-limit the entire autobahn network, so enjoy it while it's there - the Black Autobahn mightn't last, unfortunately.

The Backwards Man · 18-06-2015 10:14AM

I met three postmen on my trip to town this morning. Last week I only met one. Ergo, there's three times as many postmen on the road.

sbsquarepants · 18-06-2015 10:14AM

deise08 wrote: »

Would you believe i was just thinking something myself there this morning.
There's a stretch where a van would be once every month, two months.
Its been there three times already this week.
I drive it every day, in to and out of work. I've never seen it there so often.

Passed one 3 times this week, on a 250m stretch of dual carriageway between traffic lights, fenced on both sides, no pedestrians (there's a pedestrian bridge) straight as an arrow - you'd basically have to try to crash.
These vans are all about getting the cash in and absolutely nothing to do with saving lives.

jimgoose · 18-06-2015 10:14AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I met three postmen on my trip to town this morning. Last week I only met one. Ergo, there's three times as many postmen on the road.

Obviously. I haven't seen any spherical cows yet, but at this rate it's only a matter of time. :pac:

veryangryman · 18-06-2015 10:15AM

anncoates wrote: »

Seems like a excellent fiscal policy.

Generate wealth based on a form of income collection that people can completely avoid by simply observing the law.

What could go wrong?

Foreign Regs
Garda time used up

Thats 2 off the top of my head

Ed_Stephens · 18-06-2015 10:20AM

The cost of an accident is huge and more when someone is killed, not to mention the human cost, see those big insurance premium hikes?

But sure a few k over the limit is grand and I was only only on the phone for a minute etc etc etc.

I don't know how much speed fines get in but if I needed more money easily I would jus raise motor tax again. Easy.

Ed_Stephens · 18-06-2015 10:20AM

The cost of an accident is huge and more when someone is killed, not to mention the human cost, see those big insurance premium hikes?

But sure a few k over the limit is grand and I was only only on the phone for a minute etc etc etc.

I don't know how much speed fines get in but if I needed more money easily I would jus raise motor tax again. Easy.

hardCopy · 18-06-2015 10:25AM

I'd guess they just have more man-hours to spend on traffic enforcement as the first batch of new recruits have come on stream. Overtime was slashed massively a few years ago and seems to be back now.

Speed checks frequency increasing 10 fold - conspiracy?

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