The Plight of the Rohingya

porsche959 wrote: »

Nice piece of victim blaming there from the 'woman wearing short skirt deserves to get raped' school of thought.

It was a generally geopolitical observation.

One yet to be refuted by anything but sly, personal digs.

That was actually a disgusting insinuation to make. The argument of an utter arsehole.

^^^^

Yeah, that's a nonsensical comparison.

My own humble musing didn't give any reasons for the facts stated, didn't label Muslims as anything and certainly didn't suggest a holocaust as a justifiable solution.

The fact still stands. Muslim communities are not, generally, integrating well where they are in the minority and minority groups do not fare well in Muslim majority countries.

In my own opinion, this is because Islam, in its devoutest forms, is simply incompatible with Western democracy and all that true democracy entails- tolerance, liberty, equality- and not because Muslims are inherently prone to "devilish wantoness" anymore or less than the adherents of any other faith.

The few half-functioning secular democracies in the Muslim world mostly require a strong military to forcibly maintain that secular democracy. Minority religious groups tend to live with far greater security in these militarily enforced secular democracies or even the dictatorships than the surrounding theocracies or Sharia plagued failed states.

Outside the periphery of the Muslim world, in states with sizable Muslim minorities, these states often suffer extremely violent Islamic separatist or revolutionary movements (Nigeria, Chad, Russia, China, India).

All this would suggest that a great many Muslims do not wish to live in democracies or in societies where their beliefs are not dominant and enshrined in law. We see the beginnings of this in Europe with Sharia patrols in London and Germany, religiously supremacist Muslim rape gangs targeting indigenous children in Northern England and the fact that, in a civilisation where nothing was sacred or safe from mockery, it is now physically dangerous to criticise or satirise Islam.

The total acceptance of Islam as a sacred, unquestionable thing is being forced upon non-Muslims at the point of the knife and gun. Europe is (with honourable exception) submitting to this intimidation. What will the next submission demanded of us be? Where will it end? Appeasement of fascism does not work and leads to greater demands. Militant Islam is just that: fascism.

Since you insist on bringing the Jews into it; their ancient communities are dwindling and disappearing in European cities (most notably in Malmo and Paris) under harassment and intimidation from the burgeoning Muslim populations there. Jews are being persecuted to an extent not seen in Europe since the 40s by an unholy alliance of the ever present European extreme Right and imported Islamic Anti-Semitism. The extreme Right are very much the junior partner in this alliance.

Nodin wrote: »

....using the plight of some persecuted muslims to rant about muslims, and using being called out on it to rant yet more about muslims......

I made a broader point that related closely to the issue being discussed and then explained and defended it in great detail.

All you've done is make smug, personal digs and tar me as a bigot by making a bizarre comparison.

You haven't countered a single point I made and, as usual, contributed nothing but smug snark and nasty personal attacks.