Big Brother UK 2015 Use spoiler tags, mod warning post #1 & 3037

Necro · 10-06-2015 02:41PM

United Chester Men wrote:

i think you are missing the point. PPeople arent really defending Harry, I personally think she is very troubled and not the most intelligent and extremely vulnerable and her nakedness is bordering on disgusting at this stage.

My issue though is that Marc should have a little bit of empathy and not be, what I see, as bullying her now that he has her in a corner after his behaviour drove her up the wall. He willingly took others aside and sorted out stuff when they confronted him, ie Danny and Chloe but he is now turning himself into a victim in this scenario and manipulating the others into agreeing with him. He can give it but cant take it.

And I would argue that your utter hatred for Marc, and obsession on analysing every little thing he does is clearly warping your viewpoint. There is no bullying involved in this scenario that I can see.
A lot of bitching back and forth, but if that's the case then Jack is the nastiest, vilest little bully in that house.
The difference between the two is that while Jack will lie around and whine, bitch and moan about everything his current hate of the week is doing, Marc will simply say it straight out. It may br crude, crass and over the top a lot of the time, but at least he'll say it to your face.

United Chester Men · 10-06-2015 02:52PM

Missymoohaa wrote: »

applaud applaud applaud :) this is a great post, my take on the programme entirely, some people take it WAY too seriously.

It's a gameshow and Marc is playing the game brilliantly and with great entertainment for the viewers.

Harri, though, I do not think she's crazy by any means, acted very strangely yesterday. She could have been pre menstrual (we can all get a bit stroppy then) who knows, I'll see if she's back on form tonight before I judge.:cool:
That said, I can't take to her at all, her game is far too transparent I think, Mark is working harder and playing it more intelligently I think anyway. He really must be boll*xed by now. Duracell Bunny or what?

Anyway the bookies have him at 7/2 favourite but Chloe and Danny are closing in on him. They have him to thank for that as he brought both of them out onto the stage more. They were proper boring before he came.

oh, its a gameshow............................... I love this comment whenever someone questions Marks behaviour on the show. Personalities come to the fore on these shows, sooner rather than later and Marks is evident to a lot of people. We all know its a damn gameshow! And he could end up winning it just because people want to keep him in to watch him, like Perez, like Helen, like Jade Goody. That doesn't mean we can't comment on his character as this is what the audience witnesses. Thats the idea of watching the show, psychoanalysing peoples behaviour in an enclosed pressured environment with strangers. Why else do we watch it. Its not bloody Nicky Byrnes Million Euro Challenge!!!

And no, I don't believe for a second Marc could maintain such a front all the time, he is being himself and he is on the show for scrutiny by the audience, and if he wants to insult people, make crude remarks, get passive aggressive and controlling, viewers have the right to comment on this!!

Applaud Applaud!! ; )

I agree with you on Harry, it must be very trying for her but she has brought it on herself a bit, like Marc, but the rest of them should recognise her vulnerability and try to, like Joel and Nick, bring her back into the group more. It could of been just a bad day. But crazy is an extreme comment.

Chloe or Joel I would like to win.

United Chester Men · 10-06-2015 02:56PM

Necrominus wrote: »

And I would argue that your utter hatred for Marc, and obsession on analysing every little thing he does is clearly warping your viewpoint. There is no bullying involved in this scenario that I can see.
A lot of bitching back and forth, but if that's the case then Jack is the nastiest, vilest little bully in that house.
The difference between the two is that while Jack will lie around and whine, bitch and moan about everything his current hate of the week is doing, Marc will simply say it straight out. It may br crude, crass and over the top a lot of the time, but at least he'll say it to your face.

depends what you see as bullying. Thats your perogative. I personally think he has shown a lot of symptoms of a bully, a sexist, a control freak and a mysoginist! Maybe I am wrong but I am just, as they say on Catchphrase, saying what I see! I don't want to argue with anyone on the thread so lets not get too intense if we disagree! Fair? I respect if you see things differently but calling me obsessed is just looking for a reaction.

United Chester Men · 10-06-2015 03:03PM

drugstore cowboy wrote: »

It would be great banter to evict Jack's dressing gown or have Marc steal it as part of a task

now now, we don't want him doing a Harri!!

deco nate · 10-06-2015 03:07PM

United Chester Men wrote: »

now now, we don't want him doing a Harri!!

LOL

deco nate · 10-06-2015 03:25PM

Instead of putting past housemates in, I'd like to see them put in the 3 that got replaced hm's. I think they would stirr the pot better than past hm

Mr E · 10-06-2015 03:27PM

Thread cleaned up. Back on topic, folks, thanks!

Saralee4 · 10-06-2015 03:29PM

deco nate wrote: »

Instead of putting past housemates in, I'd like to see them put in the 3 that got replaced hm's. I think they would stirr the pot better than past hm

yea I don't see the point of the past housemates especially ones as exposed or overused (cant think of the proper word for it) as Nikki.

mr bungle. · 10-06-2015 03:43PM

I'm not sure what to make of Marc.most of the time I find him hilarious.but every now and again he puts his foot in it.i did like the way after the picnic task the way he pulled up Christian for not opening his mouth.Christian did the same earlier when Joel was getting on to jack for snoring.Christian just got up and walked away rather than simply saying "yeah you were snoring jack".I know most of us try and avoid confrontation but Christian seriously needs to grow a pair.

Hyzepher · 10-06-2015 04:16PM

not sure they are putting ex-housemates in. They are simply getting the voted out person to spend 2 days with them - ex-housemates won't meet anyone else.

deco nate · 10-06-2015 04:36PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

not sure they are putting ex-housemates in. They are simply getting the voted out person to spend 2 days with them - ex-housemates won't meet anyone else.

Ah well that's even worse, the voted out hm should be left on their own to watch the house and the ex housemates

CollyFlower · 10-06-2015 05:41PM

'Who IS she?' - will
be a resident of a 'secret lair' alongside last year's
winner Helen Wood.

CollyFlower · 10-06-2015 05:43PM

This Friday's evictee will join the pair in the room away
from the main house, where they will spy on their fellow
contestants in secrecy.

drugstore cowboy · 10-06-2015 06:09PM

mr bungle. wrote: »

I'm not sure what to make of Marc.most of the time I find him hilarious.but every now and again he puts his foot in it.i did like the way after the picnic task the way he pulled up Christian for not opening his mouth.Christian did the same earlier when Joel was getting on to jack for snoring.Christian just got up and walked away rather than simply saying "yeah you were snoring jack".I know most of us try and avoid confrontation but Christian seriously needs to grow a pair.

I'd love a compilation of Jack's bitchings to be played to the housemates. The look on his face would be priceless but I'll settle for some GET JACK OUT chants Friday night

Missymoohaa · 10-06-2015 06:12PM

Does anyone know if the guest housemates are leaving Sunday night or will they enter the main house for a few days?

mr bungle. · 10-06-2015 06:28PM

drugstore cowboy wrote: »

I'd love a compilation of Jack's bitchings to be played to the housemates. The look on his face would be priceless but I'll settle for some GET JACK OUT chants Friday night

Looking at the way BB are editing him lately that might happen, hopefully!!so far he hasn't had too many cringe moments in front of his house mates.oh except for splitting the @ss of his trousers

dunworth1 · 10-06-2015 06:31PM

Jack eats pies tonight lol

CollyFlower · 10-06-2015 07:48PM

Loved the clip of them doing Grease lighting!

United Chester Men · 10-06-2015 08:03PM

Daqui88 wrote: »

Simon is more vulnerable than Harry imo, do you have a problem with housemates insulting Simon, ie Jack for one?

United Chester Men wrote: »

It is mob mentality, but I have no sympathy for Simon. I genuinely have never witnessed a more pathetic fake man in my life. He doesn't know who he is and is playing the victim. He has also a very bad reputation in his line of, ahem, "showbiz" so there is more to him than meets the eye.

Saying that, they all seem to have a bullying trait to them. I think the arrival of Marc has brought a n undertone sinister vibe/atmosphere to the house that is hidden behind a "togetherness against Simon".
Not one of them left will stand up against a mob mentality crusade, especially against Simon, if it gets worse:
Christian: No backbone
Danny: No brain
Jade: No true empathy/too much self absorbed
Chloe: Hates him (yet she will forgive and not hold against/not challenge Marc's comments because he has control of the house and in the long term she and the rest want to avoid confrontation with Marc as they fear what he can do.
Jack: Sensitive, angry, looking for someone to vent his temper upon that is weaker than him
Nick: Smart, with empathy but he has also nerve issues and he doesnt seem the type to take on a big crowd. I may be wrong.
Joel: He has a politician mentality, he seeks approval and will side with the crowd, rather than against them.
Sam: she is too absorbed with making everyone happy and like her, she also doesn't necessarily have the right intelligence to go about it and she is too busy following around Marc and putting her energies responding to his mind games.
Harry Amelia: No comment............ (,) (,)

I already alluded to the mob mentality towards Simon and it wasn't just Jack. I am ahead of you.

Ask everyone else that has commented on Marc the same question by the way!! I am not the only one who has this opinion about Marc!

In fairness Marc was the least vigurous against Simon but he had no issue against him as Simon never challenged him.

United Chester Men · 10-06-2015 08:24PM

PS I am honoured you joined up today just to ask me that question...................................

deco nate · 10-06-2015 08:25PM

Daqui88 wrote: »

Simon is more vulnerable than Harry imo, do you have a problem with housemates insulting Simon, ie Jack for one?

Wanna ask some more posters any questions?
Or is it just one poster
You're interested in?
Anyway here's my answer,
Not a hope in hell is Simon vulnerable, he is a man in his 40s that has used people for his own gain outside the house and doesn't care, he is the same inside the house It's plain to see, feckin crocodile tears.

deco nate · 10-06-2015 08:31PM

CollyFlower wrote: »

Loved the clip of them doing Grease lighting!

Where did you see that?

United Chester Men · 10-06-2015 08:33PM

The scene with Simon and Harri in the bedroom yesterday completely summed up Simon! He starts by asking Harri a question while the rest were out partying and the two were slouching in bed!

Before she could answer he butted in and gave the answer to the question on his behalf before making it completely about him! She then tried to open u a bit to him and he turned his back and then once again interrupted her reverting the conversation back to him before finally walking out as she started to talk again!

He doesn't seem to have any empathy towards anyone but himself!

dunworth1 · 10-06-2015 08:34PM

deco nate wrote:

Where did you see that?

Lasts night show

CollyFlower · 10-06-2015 08:35PM

deco nate wrote: »

Where did you see that?

It was on last night's show, Did you watch last night, Deco?

deco nate · 10-06-2015 08:40PM

CollyFlower wrote: »

It was on last night's show, Did you watch last night, Deco?

Yea, that must have happened when I went for a pee, Damit!

dunworth1 · 10-06-2015 08:43PM

deco nate wrote:

Wanna ask some more posters any questions? Or is it just one poster You're interested in? Anyway here's my answer, Not a hope in hell is Simon vulnerable, he is a man in his 40s that has used people for his own gain outside the house and doesn't care, he is the same inside the house It's plain to see, feckin crocodile tears.

You have no idea if they are real tears or not he could be genuine.

Simon has been bullied by more hms than anyone else.

He's frightened now to actually speak his mind as he will get attacked.

I don't actually like Simon. But I see some people (not only you) picking on Marc

When jack and Cloe have been bulling Simon for a while now

CollyFlower · 10-06-2015 08:44PM

deco nate wrote: »

Yea, that must have happened when I went for a pee, Damit!

Aww, you missed the best part of the show...... You might be able to view it here.
http://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/771/94743/1/Big-Brother

Oat23 · 10-06-2015 08:45PM

power pants wrote: »

Just a little lazy relying on ex housemates. Nikki wasnt even that good. One outburst that she still dines out on.

Nikki is the only thing I remember from that series. There was A LOT more than 1 outburst. Everyone remembers 'who is she?? where did you find her?!', but her tantrums were a daily occurrence.

You swine!

CollyFlower · 10-06-2015 08:50PM

Oat23 wrote: »

Nikki is the only thing I remember from that series. There was A LOT more than 1 outburst. Everyone remembers 'who is she?? where did you find her?!', but her tantrums were a daily occurrence.

You swine!

I would have gave you a '+thanks' for that post but your "swine" comment was uncalled for!

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