Straight Pride

10-06-2015 12:16PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

It basically means the opposite of transgender. You're born into the gender you were meant. You use it to add another layer of guilt to all the juicy privilege you've been afforded in life.

So it's essentially a pointless term?

Zillah · 10-06-2015 12:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can someone please explain to be what in the f*ck cisgender means?

It would literally be twice as easy to google cisgender, but instead you want to show how cool and edgy you are by going out of your way to tell us you don't know what it means.

Hey everyone look at how aloof and cool this guy is, transgender terminology is so beneath his notice he doesn't even know what it means, super cool.

10-06-2015 12:20PM

Zillah wrote: »

It would literally be twice as easy to google cisgender, but instead you want to show how cool and edgy you are by going out of your way to tell us you don't know what it means.

Hey everyone look at how aloof and cool this guy is, transgender terminology is so beneath his notice he doesn't even know what it means, super cool.

Since when is it considered cool and edgy to admit ignorance? Is that what you consider cool? Jeez.

And I always feel that looking something up on Google is the lazy option. This is a discussion forum, in which questions are asked.

Also I feel like you just want to target me as opposed to make any actual valid point. I asked a legitimate question, got a legitimate answer. So, got what I wanted. Whereas you were just being petty. Go you. Go. You.

And I want to add that if you want to continue on this specific argument/debate/conversation, then please send me a PM because it will distract from the conversation at hand.

OmegaRed · 10-06-2015 12:22PM

I'd like to have a bacon pride day....cos you know, bacon!

Zillah · 10-06-2015 12:22PM

You weren't trying to ask a legitimate question, you were being dismissive and contemptuous, as you have for the entire thread. We both know it, keep pretending if you like.

kunst nugget · 10-06-2015 12:27PM

Zillah wrote: »

It would literally be twice as easy to google cisgender, but instead you want to show how cool and edgy you are by going out of your way to tell us you don't know what it means.

Hey everyone look at how aloof and cool this guy is, transgender terminology is so beneath his notice he doesn't even know what it means, super cool.

Tbf, it's hardly just transgender terminology anymore. It's generally thrown in with 'straight', 'white', 'male' and 'privilege' by some people on the bottom half of the internet as a reason why some people's opinions should be disregarded…

readyletsgo · 10-06-2015 12:30PM

OmegaRed wrote: »

I'd like to have a bacon pride day....cos you know, bacon!

I wish I could double thanks this. On Pride this year I will match in it and also have a secret bacon pride sambo with me too.

Caovyn Lineah · 10-06-2015 12:30PM

I saw something during the referendum, it was lgbti, what does the I stand for?

10-06-2015 12:32PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I saw something during the referendum, it was lgbti, what does the I stand for?

Oh. Intersexed. Apparently. Though I've also seen LGBTQ as well.

But then again asking a question is considered cool and edgy by some :pac:

Caovyn Lineah · 10-06-2015 12:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh. Intersexed. Apparently. Though I've also seen LGBTQ as well.

But then again asking a question is considered cool and edgy by some :pac:

What the hell is intersexed

keano_afc · 10-06-2015 12:42PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

What the hell is intersexed

Its like a tracker mortgage, except it was born as a fixed rate one.

10-06-2015 12:43PM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

What the hell is intersexed

Hermaphodite, according to what Google says, but apparently that's offensive to say?

StewartGriffin · 10-06-2015 12:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So it's essentially a pointless term?

Cisgender is used to avoid people offending other people. If every gender has a title then no one can refer to themselves as "normal," thus implying that others are - "abnormal."

Canis Lupus · 10-06-2015 12:49PM

keano_afc wrote: »

Its like a tracker mortgage, except it was born as a fixed rate one.

What's a tracker mortgage?

Egginacup · 10-06-2015 12:49PM

Cody montana wrote: »

Why doesn't such a thing exist?

Same way as "being-right-handed"-Pride doesn't exist.
Left handed people are in the minority but are not in the slightest bit treated differently, with suspicion or discriminated against. There are no cases of mobs of right-handed people daubing hate slogans on the walls of a left-handed person's home or calling them names like "ya left-handed spastic" before beating the tar out of them.
If there were such episodes then I would imagine left-handed people would feel the need to have a parade to demonstrate that they are not ashamed of holding a guitar the other way around or smudging the ink a little once in a while when they write with a quill. And then right-handed people might question why there is no "being-right-handed"-Pride Day.

Of course there was a time when lefthanders were demonised as if they were bloody devil's children or some crap but those days are over.

10-06-2015 12:49PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

What's a tracker mortgage?

It's a mortgage for stalkers.

10-06-2015 12:52PM

StewartGriffin wrote: »

Cisgender is used to avoid people offending other people. If every gender has a title then no one can refer to themselves as "normal," thus implying that others are - "abnormal."

So if I refer to myself as male then I'll be offending someone?

padd b1975 · 10-06-2015 12:59PM

OmegaRed wrote: »

I'd like to have a bacon pride day....cos you know, bacon!

Can I suggest the South Circular Road (Dublin) as part of the parade route?

smash · 10-06-2015 01:03PM

Pretty soon I'm going to have to refer to myself as a straight Caucasian human who self identifies as a man, in a male body.

10-06-2015 01:04PM

smash wrote: »

Pretty soon I'm going to have to refer to myself as a straight Caucasian human who self identifies as a man, in a male body.

Just wait until cloning. Then you'll be an alpha cisgender male v. 1.0.

Saipanne · 10-06-2015 01:04PM

smash wrote: »

Guess you're a homophobic racist like me then...

Not even remotely offended. Ergo, no parade required.

SpaceTime · 10-06-2015 01:05PM

In general because straight people are the establishment and had nothing to protest.

Gay pride is about raising visibility of the gay community. Remember it was effectively illegal to be gay here until the mid 1990s and marriage rights were only established two weeks ago.

Gay pride festivals are similar to Patrick's Day festivals and there are a lot of parallels actually. It's about a group of people who were looked down upon and mocked - the Irish in the U.S. in the old days or gay people more recently.

Both are about grabbing that identity, taking control of it and making it your own and turning mocked negative things into positive symbols.

If anyone should be able to understand gay pride parades it's the Irish! We did and do exactly the same thing and it worked amazingly well!!

StewartGriffin · 10-06-2015 01:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So if I refer to myself as male then I'll be offending someone?

One thing you can be 100% certain of is that no matter what you refer to yourself as someone, somewhere, will choose to be offended.

pmasterson95 · 10-06-2015 01:58PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So if I refer to myself as male then I'll be offending someone?

The females that want to be males would be jealous of your boasts?

StewartGriffin · 10-06-2015 02:00PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

Gay pride is about raising visibility of the gay community.

Yes. They have been all but invisible lately and really need to raise the profile a bit.

K4t · 10-06-2015 02:01PM

lizzyman wrote: »

Oppression is the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner

So that's a no then, sorry.

I presumed he was referring to many No voter's strict Catholic upbringing..

K4t · 10-06-2015 02:05PM

StewartGriffin wrote: »

Yes. They have been all but invisible lately and really need to raise the profile a bit.

Then again 700,000 people did try to rain on their parade, as the no campaign were only too happy to constantly remind us of.

Cody montana · 10-06-2015 05:44PM

Enjoy Heroin Responsibly wrote: »

Perhaps the OP can give examples of times/places where hetrosexual people have faced stigma, oppression, discrimination, persecution and violence on a massive scale ?

Na thought not.

Pink doesn't suit me, so f**king there.
The act of being gay discriminated against me.

Paramite Pie · 10-06-2015 06:13PM

Cody montana wrote: »

Why doesn't such a thing exist?

Because the Stonewall Riots didn't affect the Straight Community, nor were Straight bars being shut down or people arrested for going to them. People believed that there were very few gay people (if they existed at all!) so the point of the parades was visibility of people who were otherwise invisible. People felt safer in a crowd.

As a concept Pride was ultimately a counter-movement to the shame imposed on gay people in previous decades as well as a very public rejection of that shame. I believe the word was borrowed from Black Pride which itself was a response to a world that generally saw Black/African culture as lesser than white culture, particularly in colonial countries.

The concept of Pride is to embrace a part of yourself that society discourages or disproves of, as well as celebrate the History of the Movement. So what would a Straight Pride Parade achieve? What would you be highlighting awareness of? What are Straight people trying to overcome or what Status-quo are you challenging?

I'm not saying you can't have one (you can) but having a Parade just for the sake of having one too is largely fruitless. Everyday is Straight Pride Day by comparison, straight people wear their sexuality on their sleeves in a way that they don't even notice because it's so prevalent. Everytime you mention your gf or bf, or mention which celebrity you think is hot, your telling someone indirectly that your straight. But if I were to do the same thing, some people react as if I'm making a political statement.

Ultimately Gay Pride will be unnecessary & irrelevant and i look forward to that day.:)

Dimithy · 10-06-2015 06:16PM

Is this another thread where people are offended by people being offended?

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