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Big Brother UK 2015 **Use spoiler tags, mod warning post #1 & 3037**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭Missymoohaa


    Sure as some people say on here he is only having the banter and is a proper lad.....! (sigh)!
    The man is a sociopath, he can't take criticism at all. Joel made a fool of him a few times and he has it in for him, nominating him and insulting him every chance he can get, Chloe took him on and he hates her, Jade (initially) made her feelings known to him and he literally threatened and intimidated her (now she fears his control and is brownnosing him), Harry gives it back to him and he is like a raging bull (I genuinely fear something serious could happen between them, much like the Victor incident. He isn't all insults, you can see he is holding himself physically back), Sam is just a desperate subservient to his every need, Jack made his feelings known somewhat yeaterday yet Marc again couldn't take it so Jack backed back a bit, Danny has evolved from the one who confronted him over his behaviour on Day one (which was miniscule compared to what he has gone on to do) to almost his chief apologist. christian just takes whatever he does but you can see he is uncomfortable and that is why Mark "likes" him. You can see they are all scared in their own way of him, what he will say, do.

    the real Mark is starting to be exposed now that people are starting to approach him somewhat. He knows what he does is wrong, but he doesn't want people to tell him, especially women or people he knows he can't break down as easily as he would like.

    But sure...................its only a bit of lad humour!!

    Completely disagree with most of this UCM, I don't think he dislikes Joel, I think his nomination of Joel was rather tongue in cheek, saying Joel got that better of him and he can't have that, Joel took it that way too, so imo you are going over the top there in that synopsis.

    Danny has said though he doesn't like some of his comments he's a funny bastard, same with Joel and Jack and Jade find him amusing as well. I can understand he's an OTT character which BB needs. If we were to have it your way, we would be watching the HM's in bed and then being nice to each other and then lying out in the garden rinse and repeat add nauseum.

    I was just about to switch off when I read about the 4 in 4 out so I decided to see what it was about, now I can't miss an episode I'm riveted, what will Big Marc do next................ It's telly mate, don't get too carried away with the characters, you don't have to live with them....;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭drugstore cowboy


    Jack's arrogance has no limits

    Jack about Nick - "I'm sure he can be a finalist because he's one of my mates"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,311 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    It's getting so boring lately.

    The bickering between Marc and Harri isn't even entertaining. It's soooo boring.

    Cringing for Sam. She's going to receive a lot of abuse and negative attention when she leaves the house. Can't believe she let herself down like that.

    As for Marc, he's a vile human being. Entertaining, but absolutely vile.

    It's incredible how Jade has turned it around for herself. Am I right in saying she didn't receive any nominations this week? I hope she goes far, her annoying voice is gas.

    Cristian is the most boring housemate ever. Ever.

    I think Danny will win at this stage.

    It needs some serious shaking up again. It's like watching paint dry.

    What are you expecting?

    What should housemates do to entertain you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,311 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Sure as some people say on here he is only having the banter and is a proper lad.....! (sigh)!
    The man is a sociopath, he can't take criticism at all. Joel made a fool of him a few times and he has it in for him, nominating him and insulting him every chance he can get, Chloe took him on and he hates her, Jade (initially) made her feelings known to him and he literally threatened and intimidated her (now she fears his control and is brownnosing him), Harry gives it back to him and he is like a raging bull (I genuinely fear something serious could happen between them, much like the Victor incident. He isn't all insults, you can see he is holding himself physically back), Sam is just a desperate subservient to his every need, Jack made his feelings known somewhat yeaterday yet Marc again couldn't take it so Jack backed back a bit, Danny has evolved from the one who confronted him over his behaviour on Day one (which was miniscule compared to what he has gone on to do) to almost his chief apologist. christian just takes whatever he does but you can see he is uncomfortable and that is why Mark "likes" him. You can see they are all scared in their own way of him, what he will say, do.

    the real Mark is starting to be exposed now that people are starting to approach him somewhat. He knows what he does is wrong, but he doesn't want people to tell him, especially women or people he knows he can't break down as easily as he would like.

    But sure...................its only a bit of lad humour!!

    Wow you are really twisting things to suit your argument here.

    A lot of this is total rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭Missymoohaa


    Jack's arrogance has no limits

    Jack about Nick - "I'm sure he can be a finalist because he's one of my mates"

    I know seriously, is he delusional. He's going to get a right kick in the ass on Friday, I'm nearly positive he's going to hear some "Get Jack out" chants, that's if he can hear them over the "Get Harri Out" chants :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    How long is left? At this rate, favourite or not, there's no way Marc will get to end without being evicted. At some they have to draw a line and the more he gets away with the further he pushes the envelope.

    I'm bored with Marc now tbh, the banter as he calls it was fun at the beginning just to see the impact on the house but it's getting dull and repetitive. He's predictable and all the air time he's getting for nothing more than humping furniture or walking around in his smalls is desperate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Jack's arrogance has no limits

    Jack about Nick - "I'm sure he can be a finalist because he's one of my mates"

    I went right off Jack when he started having a go at Simon for nominating him. Everyone else took it on the chin, he gets one nomination and he goes mental.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭power pants


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I'm bored with Marc now tbh, the banter as he calls it was fun at the beginning just to see the impact on the house but it's getting dull and repetitive. He's predictable and all the air time he's getting for nothing more than humping furniture or walking around in his smalls is desperate.

    I found the cream cake incident both hilarious and menacing :pac: Still not sure if he was joking or being angry

    the smashing the cup cakes and staring at Harri had me in stitches, wrightly or wrongly :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,345 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Jack's arrogance has no limits

    Jack about Nick - "I'm sure he can be a finalist because he's one of my mates"

    I'm not sure he meant it like that. I took it as 'I am mates with him because he is a good guy and its the fact that he is a good guy means he good get to the final'. I don't think he is arrogant but is probably still under the illusion that he is still the public's darling.

    Jack is a bit of a hypocrite, but is young and is trying to make up for the lack of life experience with speaking about nothing. Like in all honesty, who cares about ketchup. And he must be eating his fair share of stuff as he has put on a half stone since arriving.

    I think Danny is a god character. Does stand up for people when needed and has a good head on his shoulders. I like Marc. Think he will go a long way but will not win it. Harri is despicable and needs a good wash. Surprised how much Jade has faded into the background.

    I think Christian did himself no harm with the wishing well taks. He had some very insightful comments that were all taken on board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    Is Marc representative of Irish men and their attitude towards women or is he unique?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Yes, we are all sociopath misogynistic steroid driven attention seeking maniacs........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Some of psychoanalysis of Marcs behaviour is bordering on ridiculous. Some of you need to take a step back. it's a TV show and he is a big character.

    I watched Big Brother for the first 6 or years then got bored. The missus was watching the 4 in 4 out eviction and I seen Marc going in. I watched it the next night. And the next and every bloody episode since. He's a fantastic housemate and brings huge entertainment to the show.

    When he goes I will probably find it hard to maintain interest, appreciate the entertainment value he's offering. He has reinvigorated a failing concept, chances are there will be more Marcs in the future based on how successful he's been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭power pants


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    It was so funny the way it was edited where joel was talking about marc in the diary room and it kept cutting to scenes of marc humping the furniture!

    definitely this comes into my head every now and again :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    What Marc needs is 2 proper nutters to join forces with.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Some of psychoanalysis of Marcs behaviour is bordering on ridiculous. Some of you need to take a step back. it's a TV show and he is a big character.

    I watched Big Brother for the first 6 or years then got bored. The missus was watching the 4 in 4 out eviction and I seen Marc going in. I watched it the next night. And the next and every bloody episode since. He's a fantastic housemate and brings huge entertainment to the show.

    When he goes I will probably find it hard to maintain interest, appreciate the entertainment value he's offering. He has reinvigorated a failing concept, chances are there will be more Marcs in the future based on how successful he's been.

    That doesn't make him a nice person or someone you would want to know in real life. His reaction to the kissing with Sam kind of said it all. He lacks any empathy for anyone but himself and as Soldiers are supposed to be about being part of a 'team' he has no concept of being a team player, or he's doing it for the camera's, which in itself is hypocritical, as he has accused others of doing the same and belittled them.

    The way that he behaves around Harry is not nice to watch either and he's so judgmental for someone who doesn't want to be judged.

    I can't imagine being married to him would be a bed of roses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    CK73 wrote: »
    That doesn't make him a nice person or someone you would want to know in real life. His reaction to the kissing with Sam kind of said it all. He lacks any empathy for anyone but himself and as Soldiers are supposed to be about being part of a 'team' he has no concept of being a team player, or he's doing it for the camera's, which in itself is hypocritical, as he has accused others of doing the same and belittled them.

    The way that he behaves around Harry is not nice to watch either and he's so judgmental for someone who doesn't want to be judged.

    I can't imagine being married to him would be a bed of roses.

    Honestly the debate about being a bad or good person is irrelevant. He's entertaining, I've no problem with people saying they dislike the guy, I doubt me and him would get on but I appreciate the comedic value he brings.

    Also as for him being a soldier, it's pretty irrelevant too. I think he would protect his friends, he's openly said he doesn't consider any of them as friends in the long term so why should he treat them as friends or allies. He has also admitted doing things cause it's boring. I don't blame him for that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Honestly the debate about being a bad or good person is irrelevant. He's entertaining, I've no problem with people saying they dislike the guy, I doubt me and him would get on but I appreciate the comedic value he brings.

    Also as for him being a soldier, it's pretty irrelevant too. I think he would protect his friends, he's openly said he doesn't consider any of them as friends in the long term so why should he treat them as friends or allies. He has also admitted doing things cause it's boring. I don't blame him for that!

    That is your opinion and you have a right to that, but I don't find it easy to watch. I find it actually quite difficult to watch and I have watched it less since he and Simon entered the house, as I feel like I'm missing out on the other house mates, who are having to 'survive' rather than 'live' in the new dynamics.

    I like watching how people develop more naturally. I don't like it when people are being needlessly abused and made to feel inferior, just because someone else has no interest in their feelings.

    I personally don't like confrontation and that is now what the house is all about. Thank God for fast forward!

    One last point. Being military does not mean you are surrounded by people you know and care about. Often you will be working with complete strangers, as different battalions get drafted in etc. You can't just look after the ones you know and class to be friends and sod the rest. You have to see the uniform and respect the person wearing it with your own life.

    They are all housemates and he doesn't have to like them all, but he could show them all a little respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Crimsonforce


    "I personally don't like confrontation and that is now what the house is all about"


    I'm sorry but thats what Big brother is all about.. There are 12 people living in three rooms for 60 days or so. everything gets blown out of proportion. They confront each other..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭United Chester Men


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Honestly the debate about being a bad or good person is irrelevant. He's entertaining, I've no problem with people saying they dislike the guy, I doubt me and him would get on but I appreciate the comedic value he brings.

    Also as for him being a soldier, it's pretty irrelevant too. I think he would protect his friends, he's openly said he doesn't consider any of them as friends in the long term so why should he treat them as friends or allies. He has also admitted doing things cause it's boring. I don't blame him for that!

    I think therein lies the difference between why people are divided seemingly on his presence. I know a lot of people seem to think his personality is funny, we all have a different sense of humour but I reckon there is a larger quantity that "like him" solely for what he brings to the house: the entertainment and shock element.
    He does come out with some funny stuff but it is very rare he doesn't overstep the mark (excuse the pun!)

    I think it is very relevant to analyse what you think about the person, from what you see, when watching BB. It isn't acting, this is real people putting themselves out there for scrutiny or acclaim. Obviously I don't know the guy, I am only remarking on his antics in the house. he could still be completely different outside the house. Yes you can't help but watch it when its on but just because he is making it watchable or "entertaining" doesn't mean you have to like the guy (from what we are seeing of him). I do respect that people have alternative opinions on what qualifies as humour, its the way it is but I am only giving my personal opinion on his behaviour. Some of the stuff he has done would have got someone else kicked out easily. In a way, yes, you are glad he is left in but that doesn't excuse his behaviour.

    Anyway its a discussion thread so no harm discussing opinions on him.
    I like behavioural discussion and sure he is giving us plenty of ammunition to keep the thread lively!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭branners69


    CK73 wrote: »
    That is your opinion and you have a right to that, but I don't find it easy to watch. I find it actually quite difficult to watch and I have watched it less since he and Simon entered the house, as I feel like I'm missing out on the other house mates, who are having to 'survive' rather than 'live' in the new dynamics.

    Missing out what exactly, how boring and dull they are? Without Marc there would be nothing worth watching. The first two weeks or so before he went in were not far off the dullest ever, and I have watched all previous Big Brother seasons.

    Marc is probably the best house mate that has entered the house in the past ten years. Does he have issues - hell yes! Does he go over the top - hell yes! But he is tv gold at the minute, but I can see him hitting the self destruct button soon, hence the hidden room or whatever!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    I think Marc probably is a bit of a bully, a misogynist and mental. I do find him to be too aggressive in his approach. Some of the names he called Harry were over the top insulting, 'cretin' and other vicious things to really hurt her. When Helen used the word 'slug' to describe Jale last year, everyone was outraged however she still one the show. Perhaps now we have become immune to people speaking like that to one another. I know people like marc, men and women, and sometimes its easier to just to slightly adapt to them to keep the peace (without loosing your values of course) but it can be annoying. I do see some likeable qualities to marc and I do think the show would be lost without him though. He is just so funny and some of the things he says really do make you laugh. I think we have just come to expect drama from Big Brother though.

    I find the relationship between him and Sam very interesting. I do believe there is a genuine attraction there. Its like they compliment one another. They seem to be complete opposites and exaggerations of masculine and feminine. I don't think it will last at all but its interesting to see them together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭power pants


    he did the same tactic with "the honey monster" in talifornia


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    I like Marc has a housemate - it would be terrible without him

    However, I don't understand how he gets away with some stuff given the strong arm reaction of BB with Aaron?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭United Chester Men


    I actually dont see the point of the secret room if Mark goes in. The only thing that could happen is that the remaining housemates may build up some sort of unity again and when he arrives back his antics, which will no doubt probably be on another level again, could lead to lots of confrontation and a united front against him. I think the reason was to make sure he was in for another week regardless. At the time they may have feared he might have been voted out straight away and that would have been a bad thing for viewership. In an enclosed environment with only a few people, unless they are complete head the balls like Nikki, Perez, Marco, Kitten, Mccirrick, Michelle or spiral. I would actually say such an environment may cause him to quit if it becomes too much!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭United Chester Men


    I actually dont see the point of the secret room if Mark goes in. The only thing that could happen is that the remaining housemates may build up some sort of unity again and when he arrives back his antics, which will no doubt probably be on another level again, could lead to lots of confrontation and a united front against him. I think the reason was to make sure he was in for another week regardless. At the time they may have feared he might have been voted out straight away and that would have been a bad thing for viewership. In an enclosed environment with only a few people, unless they are complete head the balls like Nikki, Perez, Marco, Kitten, Mccirrick, Michelle or spiral. I would actually say such an environment may cause him to quit if it becomes too much!

    I don't think we will ever get this sort of result from a "secret room" scenario again..................



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭branners69


    Any rumours on who the 3 ex housemates will be?

    Pure rumour but three from -

    Anna Nolan, Victor, Dexter, Nikki, Aisleyne or Josie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭power pants


    hopefully none of them :(

    except for aisleyne maybe

    victor and nikki will be a parody of themselves

    anna was ridiculously boring, only because she was in series 1 and it was a different show then. she was controversial as she was an ex nun /lesbian but in reality would pass for Christian's sister for air time

    jose was another I didnt warm too either. purely overrated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭branners69


    hopefully none of them :(

    except for aisleyne maybe

    Aisleyne could show Harry what a fit body is!

    Who would you want to see in there?

    I wonder if it is maybe US previous Big Brother house mates. The reason I am wondering is because of the reaction Perez Hilton caused in Celebrity Big Brother! Would love to see Dan, Dick or Mike (these names will mean nothing to most people!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭power pants


    ill have to think about that and come back to you :pac:

    Aisleyne was great at just being annoying to everyone so she could easily stir it up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭bodhi085


    I don't think we will ever get this sort of result from a "secret room" scenario again..................


    Back when housemates were more normal type people. Can't quite put my finger on big brother housemates the last few years. Loved big brother 5.
    As for this year I'm watching it more as background tv,but loving Marc's funny antics to pi** everybody off.


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