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  • 06-06-2015 11:27pm
    #1
    amie lee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭


    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married


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  • #2
    Tony Beetroot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Tony Beetroot


    Was it on google you heard that?


  • #3
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Yeah, only a child of a married couple is seen as righteous in the eyes of the church.














    Hahahahahaha


  • #4
    dee_mc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Some parishes require the parents to complete a baptismal course, but I've never heard of what you mentioned, sounds a bit mental!


  • #5
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    amie lee wrote: »
    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married


    None of what you hear and most of what you read isn't true


  • #6
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    If the parents were that religious would they not marry before having kids?


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  • #7
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    amie lee wrote: »
    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

    What course does a single parent have to do?


  • #8
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    If the parents were that religious would they not marry before having kids?

    Exactly. How can you promise to bring the kid up as a Catholic if you're clearly not adhering to the Catholic way of life yourselves ie living in sin, having a baby out of wedlock etc.

    Personally I don't think you should waste your time indoctrinating your child into a religion. Why not respect the child and allow it decide what if any religion it wants to subscribe to itself when it is old enough to make its own mind up?


  • #9
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    amie lee wrote: »
    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

    Reads like an Prince album sleeve from the 80s.


  • #10
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    amie lee wrote: »
    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

    Yeah sure, why not?


  • #11
    agent graves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭agent graves


    Would this be done through the church.. where they will charge money.. do they charge for christings as well? Money racket..


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  • #12
    Cork boy 55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    Should be against law to recruit a child into a ancient oriental mystery cult. Its 2015 ffs


  • #13
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I know many unmarried parents and single parents, not one of them mentioned this as a requirement.


  • #14
    lulu1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭lulu1


    A parents course ?? Aw well that will keep the couple busy for the next 20 years


  • #15
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Get in at least 4 crates


  • #16
    Toots
    Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    In my local church there's a baptism preparation evening that all the parents have to go to, regardless of their marital status. I've never heard of unmarried parents having to do extra stuff though.


  • #17
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Toots wrote: »
    In my local church there's a baptism preparation evening that all the parents have to go to, regardless of their marital status. I've never heard of unmarried parents having to do extra stuff though.

    How can parents who are not adhering to the Catholic way of life seriously swear an oath to ensure the child being baptised will be brought up adhering to the Catholic religion when they themselves aren't adhering to it?


  • #18
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Je_suis_Jean wrote: »
    How can parents who are not adhering to the Catholic way of life seriously swear an oath to ensure the child being baptised will be brought up adhering to the Catholic religion when they themselves aren't adhering to it?


    Bums on seats mate.


  • #19
    MistyCheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    The Church allows the children of unmarried parents to be baptised because they are happy to see the number of Catholics increase.

    Doesn't matter too much if the child won't see the inside of a church until their communion, the child will still be a registered, official Catholic. Then when the Church wants to dabble in politics they can say 'We are representing the X amount of thousands of Catholics and we must be listened to because we speak on behalf of X% of the population.' The fact that the X is a massively overinflated number is less relevant.


  • #20
    psychomantis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭psychomantis


    amie lee wrote: »
    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

    This hurt to read


  • #21
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Je_suis_Jean wrote: »
    How can parents who are not adhering to the Catholic way of life seriously swear an oath to ensure the child being baptised will be brought up adhering to the Catholic religion when they themselves aren't adhering to it?

    So when they rock up to enrol at the local school where all Johnny's friends are going to.... secretary asks for baptismal cert... whatcha gonna do?


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  • #22
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Cn U chrstn dem in a U-boat?


  • #23
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    What course does a single parent have to do?

    The parents are required to complete a spell in a relevant course.


  • #24
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    If one is doing it right one is being baptised every day.


  • #25
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    catallus wrote: »
    If one is doing it right one is being baptised every day.

    Go on...?


  • #26
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    endacl wrote: »
    Go on...?

    I would have thought it to be self-explanatory?


  • #27
    GreatDefector
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭GreatDefector


    Cork boy 55 wrote: »
    Should be against law to recruit a child into a ancient oriental mystery cult. Its 2015 ffs

    Oriental? WTF?

    It's the Catholic Church not Buddhism


  • #28
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    catallus wrote: »
    I would have thought it to be self-explanatory?

    Go on...?

    :)


  • #29
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    GreatDefector wrote: »
    Oriental? WTF?

    It's the Catholic Church not Buddhism

    Originated in the Middle East. Classically, 'the orient'. Which doesn't begin at the Great Wall of China. Poster is correct.


  • #30
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    endacl wrote: »
    Go on...?

    :)

    I'm glad you asked.

    You see, the mystery of baptism is such that one's soul is immersed in the holy spirit; the physical enactment of this transcendental phenomenon is but a sorry shade of the true meaning of the rite.

    As such, one should yearn to be perpetually immersed in God's salvation through one's thoughts and deeds.

    Yes?


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  • #31
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Pure bull****, they'll recruit anyone and anything now to keep numbers up...


  • #32
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    catallus wrote: »
    I'm glad you asked.

    You see, the mystery of baptism is such that one's soul is immersed in the holy spirit; the physical enactment of this transcendental phenomenon is but a sorry shade of the true meaning of the rite.

    As such, one should yearn to be perpetually immersed in God's salvation through one's thoughts and deeds.

    Yes?

    Sounds a bit 'madey-uppey'...

    Fits with 'religion' though. Fair enough.


  • #33
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    catallus wrote: »
    I'm glad you asked.

    You see, the mystery of baptism is such that one's soul is immersed in the holy spirit; the physical enactment of this transcendental phenomenon is but a sorry shade of the true meaning of the rite.

    As such, one should yearn to be perpetually immersed in God's salvation through one's thoughts and deeds.

    Yes?

    Well what's the true meaning of the rite? You expect babies to immerse themselves in something other than a big bowl of water? Baptism is the same now as it always has been.


  • #34
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Joeseph Balls wrote: »
    Pure bull****, they'll recruit anyone and anything now to keep numbers up...

    Such wilful blindness to the facts can be remedied by the pursuit of knowledge:

    http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21629218-rapid-spread-christianity-forcing-official-rethink-religion-cracks

    Verily, in this case, the patient must minister to himself.....


  • #35
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    catallus wrote: »
    Such wilful blindness to the facts can be remedied by the pursuit of knowledge:

    http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21629218-rapid-spread-christianity-forcing-official-rethink-religion-cracks

    Verily, in this case, the patient must minister to himself.....

    One doth thinketh that thy speaketh like a pretentious twat.


  • #36
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Lenin Skynard wrote: »
    One doth thinketh that thy speaketh like a pretentious twat.

    One isth noth thoo farest offest ye olde marketh.


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  • #37
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Lenin Skynard wrote: »
    One doth thinketh that thy speaketh like a pretentious twat.

    Indeed. Touché.

    While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

    The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.


  • #38
    lulu1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭lulu1


    amie lee wrote: »
    I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

    And who would think they are such perfect people that they would see themselves fit to teach this parenting course. ??

    Probably someone with no children


  • #39
    vertmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭vertmann


    You sure the person who told you this wasn't wearing a red nose, wig and suspicious make up at the time?


  • #40
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    catallus wrote: »
    Indeed. Touché.

    While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

    The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

    Do you just cut and past from some silly big post you've pre-prepared and saved as a Word doc?


  • #41
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    endacl wrote: »
    Do you just cut and past from some silly big post you've pre-prepared and saved as a Word doc?

    :mad: That would just be sad!

    I make that stuff up on the spot ;):D


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  • #42
    eternal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    I like waddings and finerals too. Do U?


  • #43
    lizzyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lizzyman


    catallus wrote: »
    Indeed. Touché.

    While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

    The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

    Guess what's improving every year? Science, education, health care and life expectancy. Statistically, the world is a better place to live in now than it ever has been.

    Guess what's declining every year? Religion. When science and education improve it's only logical that people start seeing holes in the church's logic. Dude gets nailed to a cross then comes back to life as a zombie before flying to heaven and every Sunday we're supposed have a cannabilistic ritual to say thanks?

    Yeah. Didn't think so.

    Also, saying 'Touché' makes people want to poke you in the eye.


  • #44
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    When did Adam and Eve get married ?


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    catallus wrote: »
    immersed in the holy spirit

    immersed in God's salvation

    Sounds a little sticky like a snot rag :) I need a spiritual wipe or tampon or something.


  • #46
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    lizzyman wrote: »
    Guess what's declining every year? Religion...

    This is simply incorrect. Just because one keeps saying things does not make them true.

    Seriously, open your eyes to the world around you.

    It occurs to me just now that the increased life-expectancy you mention may, in fact, be one of the main reasons religion, and Christianity in particular, is growing so much.

    Religion didn't just occur to humanity; it has developed over thousands of years since one human could speak to another; to make sense of this miracle creation we find ourselves in, to decipher our own selves as well as the world around us.

    To deny the spiritual nature of humans is obviously in fashion in the safe non-offensive part of the world we find ourselves in; we can afford nihilism entry into our lives because we have been told nothing can hurt us; but this is a lie.


  • #47
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    catallus wrote: »
    Indeed. Touché.

    While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

    The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

    Pighead and Aongus do a much better job at their online personas.


  • #48
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    catallus wrote: »
    This is simply incorrect. Just because one keeps saying things does not make them true.

    Even in the good old USA atheism is on the increase which can only be at the expense of religion. The only place religion is on the increase is the usual poor and uneducated areas of the world.


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    catallus wrote: »
    This is simply incorrect. Just because one keeps saying things does not make them true.

    Something the "faithful" might learn with their rote prayers like the "Heilge Vater" and "Hail Mary" and the daily angelus. It seems saying it over and over again to make it true is something of an MO for you people :) We believe we believe oh help us with our unbelief :)
    catallus wrote: »
    Seriously, open your eyes to the world around you.

    After you :)
    catallus wrote: »
    Religion didn't just occur to humanity; it has developed over thousands of years since one human could speak to another

    You have not met the Nozz yet have you :)


  • #50
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    The only place religion is on the increase is the usual poor and uneducated areas of the world.
    Roscommon - South Leitrim?


  • #51
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    lizzyman wrote: »
    Guess what's improving every year? Science, education, health care and life expectancy. Statistically, the world is a better place to live in now than it ever has been.

    Guess what's declining every year? Religion. When science and education improve it's only logical that people start seeing holes in the church's logic. Dude gets nailed to a cross then comes back to life as a zombie before flying to heaven and every Sunday we're supposed have a cannabilistic ritual to say thanks?

    Yeah. Didn't think so.

    Also, saying 'Touché' makes people want to poke you in the eye.

    Why did I read this in David Brent's voice?! No offense to post or poster.


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