christeings

amie lee

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

Tony Beetroot

Was it on google you heard that?

Birneybau

Yeah, only a child of a married couple is seen as righteous in the eyes of the church.














Hahahahahaha

dee_mc

Some parishes require the parents to complete a baptismal course, but I've never heard of what you mentioned, sounds a bit mental!

kneemos

amie lee wrote: »

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

None of what you hear and most of what you read isn't true

frostyjacks

If the parents were that religious would they not marry before having kids?

dxhound2005

amie lee wrote: »

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

What course does a single parent have to do?

54and56

frostyjacks wrote: »

If the parents were that religious would they not marry before having kids?

Exactly. How can you promise to bring the kid up as a Catholic if you're clearly not adhering to the Catholic way of life yourselves ie living in sin, having a baby out of wedlock etc.

Personally I don't think you should waste your time indoctrinating your child into a religion. Why not respect the child and allow it decide what if any religion it wants to subscribe to itself when it is old enough to make its own mind up?

anncoates

amie lee wrote: »

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

Reads like an Prince album sleeve from the 80s.

whisky_galore

amie lee wrote: »

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

Yeah sure, why not?

agent graves

Would this be done through the church.. where they will charge money.. do they charge for christings as well? Money racket..

Cork boy 55

Should be against law to recruit a child into a ancient oriental mystery cult. Its 2015 ffs

eviltwin

I know many unmarried parents and single parents, not one of them mentioned this as a requirement.

lulu1

A parents course ?? Aw well that will keep the couple busy for the next 20 years

suicide_circus

Get in at least 4 crates

Toots

In my local church there's a baptism preparation evening that all the parents have to go to, regardless of their marital status. I've never heard of unmarried parents having to do extra stuff though.

54and56

Toots wrote: »

In my local church there's a baptism preparation evening that all the parents have to go to, regardless of their marital status. I've never heard of unmarried parents having to do extra stuff though.

How can parents who are not adhering to the Catholic way of life seriously swear an oath to ensure the child being baptised will be brought up adhering to the Catholic religion when they themselves aren't adhering to it?

kneemos

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

How can parents who are not adhering to the Catholic way of life seriously swear an oath to ensure the child being baptised will be brought up adhering to the Catholic religion when they themselves aren't adhering to it?

Bums on seats mate.

MistyCheese

The Church allows the children of unmarried parents to be baptised because they are happy to see the number of Catholics increase.

Doesn't matter too much if the child won't see the inside of a church until their communion, the child will still be a registered, official Catholic. Then when the Church wants to dabble in politics they can say 'We are representing the X amount of thousands of Catholics and we must be listened to because we speak on behalf of X% of the population.' The fact that the X is a massively overinflated number is less relevant.

psychomantis

amie lee wrote: »

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

This hurt to read

evolving_doors

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

How can parents who are not adhering to the Catholic way of life seriously swear an oath to ensure the child being baptised will be brought up adhering to the Catholic religion when they themselves aren't adhering to it?

So when they rock up to enrol at the local school where all Johnny's friends are going to.... secretary asks for baptismal cert... whatcha gonna do?

Lenin Skynard

Cn U chrstn dem in a U-boat?

endacl

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What course does a single parent have to do?

The parents are required to complete a spell in a relevant course.

catallus

If one is doing it right one is being baptised every day.

endacl

catallus wrote: »

If one is doing it right one is being baptised every day.

Go on...?

catallus

endacl wrote: »

Go on...?

I would have thought it to be self-explanatory?

GreatDefector

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

Should be against law to recruit a child into a ancient oriental mystery cult. Its 2015 ffs

Oriental? WTF?

It's the Catholic Church not Buddhism

endacl

catallus wrote: »

I would have thought it to be self-explanatory?

Go on...?

endacl

GreatDefector wrote: »

Oriental? WTF?

It's the Catholic Church not Buddhism

Originated in the Middle East. Classically, 'the orient'. Which doesn't begin at the Great Wall of China. Poster is correct.

catallus

endacl wrote: »

Go on...?

I'm glad you asked.

You see, the mystery of baptism is such that one's soul is immersed in the holy spirit; the physical enactment of this transcendental phenomenon is but a sorry shade of the true meaning of the rite.

As such, one should yearn to be perpetually immersed in God's salvation through one's thoughts and deeds.

Yes?

Joeseph Balls

Pure bull****, they'll recruit anyone and anything now to keep numbers up...

endacl

catallus wrote: »

I'm glad you asked.

You see, the mystery of baptism is such that one's soul is immersed in the holy spirit; the physical enactment of this transcendental phenomenon is but a sorry shade of the true meaning of the rite.

As such, one should yearn to be perpetually immersed in God's salvation through one's thoughts and deeds.

Yes?

Sounds a bit 'madey-uppey'...

Fits with 'religion' though. Fair enough.

Lenin Skynard

catallus wrote: »

I'm glad you asked.

You see, the mystery of baptism is such that one's soul is immersed in the holy spirit; the physical enactment of this transcendental phenomenon is but a sorry shade of the true meaning of the rite.

As such, one should yearn to be perpetually immersed in God's salvation through one's thoughts and deeds.

Yes?

Well what's the true meaning of the rite? You expect babies to immerse themselves in something other than a big bowl of water? Baptism is the same now as it always has been.

catallus

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Pure bull****, they'll recruit anyone and anything now to keep numbers up...

Such wilful blindness to the facts can be remedied by the pursuit of knowledge:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21629218-rapid-spread-christianity-forcing-official-rethink-religion-cracks

Verily, in this case, the patient must minister to himself.....

Lenin Skynard

catallus wrote: »

Such wilful blindness to the facts can be remedied by the pursuit of knowledge:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21629218-rapid-spread-christianity-forcing-official-rethink-religion-cracks

Verily, in this case, the patient must minister to himself.....

One doth thinketh that thy speaketh like a pretentious twat.

endacl

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

One doth thinketh that thy speaketh like a pretentious twat.

One isth noth thoo farest offest ye olde marketh.

catallus

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

One doth thinketh that thy speaketh like a pretentious twat.

Indeed. Touché.

While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

lulu1

amie lee wrote: »

I heard is this TRUE that unmarried couples now have to do a parent coarse before U can christen your baby cause U not married

And who would think they are such perfect people that they would see themselves fit to teach this parenting course. ??

Probably someone with no children

vertmann

You sure the person who told you this wasn't wearing a red nose, wig and suspicious make up at the time?

endacl

catallus wrote: »

Indeed. Touché.

While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

Do you just cut and past from some silly big post you've pre-prepared and saved as a Word doc?

catallus

endacl wrote: »

Do you just cut and past from some silly big post you've pre-prepared and saved as a Word doc?

:mad: That would just be sad!

I make that stuff up on the spot :D

eternal

I like waddings and finerals too. Do U?

lizzyman

catallus wrote: »

Indeed. Touché.

While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

Guess what's improving every year? Science, education, health care and life expectancy. Statistically, the world is a better place to live in now than it ever has been.

Guess what's declining every year? Religion. When science and education improve it's only logical that people start seeing holes in the church's logic. Dude gets nailed to a cross then comes back to life as a zombie before flying to heaven and every Sunday we're supposed have a cannabilistic ritual to say thanks?

Yeah. Didn't think so.

Also, saying 'Touché' makes people want to poke you in the eye.

darkpagandeath

When did Adam and Eve get married ?

catallus

catallus wrote: »

immersed in the holy spirit

immersed in God's salvation

Sounds a little sticky like a snot rag I need a spiritual wipe or tampon or something.

catallus

lizzyman wrote: »

Guess what's declining every year? Religion...

This is simply incorrect. Just because one keeps saying things does not make them true.

Seriously, open your eyes to the world around you.

It occurs to me just now that the increased life-expectancy you mention may, in fact, be one of the main reasons religion, and Christianity in particular, is growing so much.

Religion didn't just occur to humanity; it has developed over thousands of years since one human could speak to another; to make sense of this miracle creation we find ourselves in, to decipher our own selves as well as the world around us.

To deny the spiritual nature of humans is obviously in fashion in the safe non-offensive part of the world we find ourselves in; we can afford nihilism entry into our lives because we have been told nothing can hurt us; but this is a lie.

Canis Lupus

catallus wrote: »

Indeed. Touché.

While evading the facts may be gratifying for those who seek nothing more than deleterious self-regard, it may surprise you that there are growing billions who seek answers to the mystery and majesty of existence on a plane which is beyond the ken of nescients and nay-sayers.

The spirit of Man will never be broken by those who would bind humanity to this vale of tears.

Pighead and Aongus do a much better job at their online personas.

Canis Lupus

catallus wrote: »

This is simply incorrect. Just because one keeps saying things does not make them true.

Even in the good old USA atheism is on the increase which can only be at the expense of religion. The only place religion is on the increase is the usual poor and uneducated areas of the world.

catallus

catallus wrote: »

This is simply incorrect. Just because one keeps saying things does not make them true.

Something the "faithful" might learn with their rote prayers like the "Heilge Vater" and "Hail Mary" and the daily angelus. It seems saying it over and over again to make it true is something of an MO for you people We believe we believe oh help us with our unbelief

catallus wrote: »

Seriously, open your eyes to the world around you.

After you

catallus wrote: »

Religion didn't just occur to humanity; it has developed over thousands of years since one human could speak to another

You have not met the Nozz yet have you

endacl

Canis Lupus wrote: »

The only place religion is on the increase is the usual poor and uneducated areas of the world.

Roscommon - South Leitrim?

Flippyfloppy

lizzyman wrote: »

Guess what's improving every year? Science, education, health care and life expectancy. Statistically, the world is a better place to live in now than it ever has been.

Guess what's declining every year? Religion. When science and education improve it's only logical that people start seeing holes in the church's logic. Dude gets nailed to a cross then comes back to life as a zombie before flying to heaven and every Sunday we're supposed have a cannabilistic ritual to say thanks?

Yeah. Didn't think so.

Also, saying 'Touché' makes people want to poke you in the eye.

Why did I read this in David Brent's voice?! No offense to post or poster.