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Woman denied entry to church

  • 24-05-2015 06:23PM
    #1
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    Seems like this woman was denided entry to her local church based on the basis of her dress and the dress code of the church..

    I really dont think that it's down to the woman being a traveller as she says , but has more to the way she's dressed which if is the case even more shocking in this day and age ..

    when she asks him has he anything to say he replies " tell them I laughed at you " is not right in tone or in the teaching of Christianly

    So after hours have we really come that far ?
    Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code or because of what a person has done


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pOr6EEb-M


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Comments

  • #2
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    You have no idea why he denied her, only her own claims.


  • #3
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Her attire is fairly tame going by big fat gypsy weddings


  • #4
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Zero context to the suggestively edited clip very similar to the iw protest videos.

    And if it's on Facebook it must be true
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  • #5
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    You have no idea why he denied her, only her own claims.

    Have you read my post and seen the video clip ?


  • #6
    Dangerous Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    The Catholic Church is a private organization. She has no right to expect admission OP.

    But go ahead - turn on the aul outrage machine.

    Let's have a go at the Catholic Church.

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  • #7
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    In the Philippines they will cover a woman's shoulder's before she goes into the church. There are shawls available at the door to protect modesty.

    The girl was dressed a bit provocatively but I've seen a lot worse. I really hate the wanton discrimination that travellers have to put up with. The majority of them are good people.


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think there's such a thing as a right to enter a church. If you're not dressed appropriately you won't be allowed into a mosque or a synagogue either.


  • #9
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    The Catholic Church is a private organization. She has no right to expect admission OP.

    But go ahead - turn on the aul outrage machine.

    Let's have a go at the Catholic Church.

    Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble

    In your rush to judge my post you seem to have missed the part where his behaviour as a human to human goes past you ..


  • #10
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I'd give her one


  • #11
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Any travellers on here?


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  • #12
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    FluffyAngel wrote: »
    Seems like this woman was denided entry to her local church based on the basis of her dress and the dress code of the church..

    I really dont think that it's down to the woman being a traveller as she says , but has more to the way she's dressed which if is the case even more shocking in this day and age ..

    when she asks him has he anything to say he replies " tell them I laughed at you " is not right in tone or in the teaching of Christianly

    So after hours have we really come that far ?
    Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code or because of what a person has done


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pOr6EEb-M


    What's this 'we' business exactly?

    It's impossible to know what's going on there so it's impossible to make any sort of judgment about anything.


  • #13
    Geniass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Compo claim incoming.


  • #14
    Not a NSA agent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    That channel is hilarious. The UTV guy has let himself go
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSiz747xMnU

    The dress seemed fine to me, Ive seen far far worse.


  • #15
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Didn't watch the video but generally speaking, surely it's about time that the right to express oneself in tarty, electric pink taffeta was enshrined as a basic human right?


  • #16
    Silverfish
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't think there's such a thing as a right to enter a church. If you're not dressed appropriately you won't be allowed into a mosque or a synagogue either.

    She was dressed no different than how people might dress for a wedding, but of course for a wedding they pay the priest.


  • #17
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    The comments on the video show the person who posted it in a lovely light altogether. :rolleyes:


  • #18
    wakka12
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    I turned off the video early because I couldn't bare to listen to those accents any longer


  • #19
    Pawwed Rig
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    Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.


  • #20
    Geniass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    they tend to be fairly pious folk.

    Depends on your definition of pious.


  • #21
    _Whimsical_
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    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

    You're right,by the same token though it's possible they've just had a much more heated argument about something and now that she's pulled the camera out he is afraid to engage her too much. I think if I was him out of sheer embarrassment, awkwardness and quite frankly fear I'd be silent and ignore someone if they pulled out a phone to start videoing a confrontation with me.

    The dress looks grand if that's what it's genuinely about.


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  • #22
    ColeTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Tonight, two of the hardest hitting topics take each other on in one thread, who will emerge victorious? It's the Catholic Church VS The Travellers and it's live right now in After Hours...


  • #23
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    _Whimsical_ wrote: »
    . I think if I was him out of sheer embarrassment, awkwardness and quite frankly fear I'd be silent and ignore someone if they pulled out a phone to start videoing a confrontation with me.

    Same here with me too, or at least I hope I would be,

    Not quite a fan of this business of pulling out the video phone.

    In this case, I don't get the point to it anyway, as it shows nothing more than a woman getting mouthy and having a go at a priest. The rest is left to our imagination.


  • #24
    Jaxxon Easy Radium
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jaxxon Easy Radium


    they used to not let you in if your shoulders weren't covered sure


  • #25
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    I live in Ennistymon. The Communion was on Saturday. It was just about the dress. The guards were called as well.


  • #26
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Aineoil wrote: »
    The guards were called as well.

    For what crime, out of interest?


  • #27
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    FluffyAngel wrote: »
    Have you read my post and seen the video clip ?

    Yes. And like I said, you cannot know why he refused to let her in other than what she said he said.


  • #28
    Aineoil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    whatismyname wrote: »
    For what crime, out of interest?

    I don't know why they were called but two guards from the local station came down to the church.


  • #29
    Carlos Orange
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    FluffyAngel wrote: »
    Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code

    Going to church isn't a right.


  • #30
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Aineoil wrote: »
    It was just about the dress.

    And this is based on you seeing / hearing this personally, rather than hearsay locally, yeah?


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  • #31
    Neyite
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    whatismyname wrote: »
    For what crime, out of interest?

    Crimes against Fashion?


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