Woman denied entry to church

FluffyAngel

Seems like this woman was denided entry to her local church based on the basis of her dress and the dress code of the church..

I really dont think that it's down to the woman being a traveller as she says , but has more to the way she's dressed which if is the case even more shocking in this day and age ..

when she asks him has he anything to say he replies " tell them I laughed at you " is not right in tone or in the teaching of Christianly

So after hours have we really come that far ?
Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code or because of what a person has done


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pOr6EEb-M

Little CuChulainn

You have no idea why he denied her, only her own claims.

Stheno

Her attire is fairly tame going by big fat gypsy weddings

Gatling

Zero context to the suggestively edited clip very similar to the iw protest videos.

And if it's on Facebook it must be true

FluffyAngel

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You have no idea why he denied her, only her own claims.

Have you read my post and seen the video clip ?

Dangerous Man

The Catholic Church is a private organization. She has no right to expect admission OP.

But go ahead - turn on the aul outrage machine.

Let's have a go at the Catholic Church.

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stefanovich

In the Philippines they will cover a woman's shoulder's before she goes into the church. There are shawls available at the door to protect modesty.

The girl was dressed a bit provocatively but I've seen a lot worse. I really hate the wanton discrimination that travellers have to put up with. The majority of them are good people.

I don't think there's such a thing as a right to enter a church. If you're not dressed appropriately you won't be allowed into a mosque or a synagogue either.

FluffyAngel

Dangerous Man wrote: »

The Catholic Church is a private organization. She has no right to expect admission OP.

But go ahead - turn on the aul outrage machine.

Let's have a go at the Catholic Church.

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In your rush to judge my post you seem to have missed the part where his behaviour as a human to human goes past you ..

Santa Cruz

I'd give her one

stefanovich

Any travellers on here?

One eyed Jack

FluffyAngel wrote: »

Seems like this woman was denided entry to her local church based on the basis of her dress and the dress code of the church..

I really dont think that it's down to the woman being a traveller as she says , but has more to the way she's dressed which if is the case even more shocking in this day and age ..

when she asks him has he anything to say he replies " tell them I laughed at you " is not right in tone or in the teaching of Christianly

So after hours have we really come that far ?
Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code or because of what a person has done


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_pOr6EEb-M

What's this 'we' business exactly?

It's impossible to know what's going on there so it's impossible to make any sort of judgment about anything.

Geniass

Compo claim incoming.

Not a NSA agent

That channel is hilarious. The UTV guy has let himself go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSiz747xMnU

The dress seemed fine to me, Ive seen far far worse.

anncoates

Didn't watch the video but generally speaking, surely it's about time that the right to express oneself in tarty, electric pink taffeta was enshrined as a basic human right?

Silverfish

Candie wrote: »

I don't think there's such a thing as a right to enter a church. If you're not dressed appropriately you won't be allowed into a mosque or a synagogue either.

She was dressed no different than how people might dress for a wedding, but of course for a wedding they pay the priest.

whatismyname

The comments on the video show the person who posted it in a lovely light altogether. :rolleyes:

wakka12

I turned off the video early because I couldn't bare to listen to those accents any longer

Pawwed Rig

Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

Geniass

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

they tend to be fairly pious folk.

Depends on your definition of pious.

_Whimsical_

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

You're right,by the same token though it's possible they've just had a much more heated argument about something and now that she's pulled the camera out he is afraid to engage her too much. I think if I was him out of sheer embarrassment, awkwardness and quite frankly fear I'd be silent and ignore someone if they pulled out a phone to start videoing a confrontation with me.

The dress looks grand if that's what it's genuinely about.

ColeTrain

Tonight, two of the hardest hitting topics take each other on in one thread, who will emerge victorious? It's the Catholic Church VS The Travellers and it's live right now in After Hours...

whatismyname

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

. I think if I was him out of sheer embarrassment, awkwardness and quite frankly fear I'd be silent and ignore someone if they pulled out a phone to start videoing a confrontation with me.

Same here with me too, or at least I hope I would be,

Not quite a fan of this business of pulling out the video phone.

In this case, I don't get the point to it anyway, as it shows nothing more than a woman getting mouthy and having a go at a priest. The rest is left to our imagination.

they used to not let you in if your shoulders weren't covered sure

Aineoil

I live in Ennistymon. The Communion was on Saturday. It was just about the dress. The guards were called as well.

whatismyname

Aineoil wrote: »

The guards were called as well.

For what crime, out of interest?

Little CuChulainn

FluffyAngel wrote: »

Have you read my post and seen the video clip ?

Yes. And like I said, you cannot know why he refused to let her in other than what she said he said.

Aineoil

whatismyname wrote: »

For what crime, out of interest?

I don't know why they were called but two guards from the local station came down to the church.

Carlos Orange

FluffyAngel wrote: »

Do we deny the rights of others based on the dress code

Going to church isn't a right.

whatismyname

Aineoil wrote: »

It was just about the dress.

And this is based on you seeing / hearing this personally, rather than hearsay locally, yeah?

Neyite

whatismyname wrote: »

For what crime, out of interest?

Crimes against Fashion?

DoYouEvenLift

Good for her!

Aineoil

whatismyname wrote: »

And this is based on you seeing / hearing this personally, rather than hearsay locally, yeah?

It's a small village and people talk.....One person I know saw the incident.

whatismyname

Aineoil wrote: »

It's a small village and people talk.....One person I know saw the incident.

Cool. So all still just hearsay then, and we're none the wise really either way.

Un Croissant

Terrible. Dont blame her for being in a sulky mood. Amiright?

omerin

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Obviously we do not know the full story here as anything could have happened prior to the start of the video but the priests smug attitude doesn't do him any favours. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

lol


mutton dressed as mutton, nothing to see here, let's move on

Reoil

While the dress appears to be "figure-hugging" I think it might look different in real life rather than through a (vertical :rolleyes:) iPhone video.
That said, at my parish, if people can get away with wearing a Liverpool top, for example, I don't see why she wouldn't be allowed in.

I think there is more to this than is let on...

The Moldy Gowl

Aineoil wrote: »

I live in Ennistymon. The Communion was on Saturday. It was just about the dress. The guards were called as well.

Thanks for continuing to tell the rest of the story.

FluffyAngel

whatismyname wrote: »

Same here with me too, or at least I hope I would be,

Not quite a fan of this business of pulling out the video phone.

In this case, I don't get the point to it anyway, as it shows nothing more than a woman getting mouthy and having a go at a priest. The rest is left to our imagination.

Neither am I a fan of the phone pulling out
But I remember what happened when they have been pointed at people who covered up crime ( I'm thinking police USA )

Getting back to the post , I think it's the smugness and the line .. "Tell them I laughed at you "
Is about power and control

The fact it was a communion day and could have been dealt with better ( a quiet word saying to consider covering up or maybe next time hand out the guidelines)

Im sure the priest knows his flock well enough and indeed if he is aware of the different groups of children making communion ( I'm guessing he directs or the ethos of the school is Catholic) which could have allowed him to say discreetly to parents what's expected of that was his need

I was watching pentecost sunday services on the bbc this morning and it struck me as welcoming and inclusive service and had many different types of people in all different type of clothes from all over the planet

Aidric

'I have tax and insurance on that car'...lols

What's that got to do with her predicament?

Aineoil

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Thanks for continuing to tell the rest of the story.

There isn't any more to the story. It was about the dress being too short.

Cienciano

The real crime here is that it was filmed in portrait mode

whatismyname

Aineoil wrote: »

There isn't any more to the story. It was about the dress being too short.

But my mate was there and said differently, as were some of my other mates and that's not what they said :rolleyes:

Aineoil

Reveal all then.

foggy_lad

Aineoil wrote: »

Reveal all then.

That was the priests main concern about the dress.

RDM_83 again

bluewolf wrote: »

they used to not let you in if your shoulders weren't covered sure

Still do in lots of mainland europe AFAIK, been ages but its hard enough not to think about sex in mass without some wicked harlots seductive shoulders and delectable knees tempting your mind away from righteous thoughts :-P

Pawwed Rig

psinno wrote: »

Going to church isn't a right.

It is actually.

Oryx

Lady: I have a divine right to enter this church!

Priest: You have a divine left too, but youre still not getting in!

mackeire

Next video is of her and her family calling out the priest and his family.

Up Joyce!

mikemac1

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

. Not sure why he would stop a traveller going into a church as whatever their other faults they tend to be fairly pious folk.

Well except for the 8th commandment

meeeeh

I saw only part of the film and she is saying 'us' women so there might be more if them around.

Personally I don't give a damn about the inappropriate clothing in church but some Travellers are responsible for serious crimes against good taste. So I think that priest is actually my hero.