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Could bigamy be next?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I'm trying really hard to be respectful of other peoples opinions but that made me laugh. Actually out loud. :pac:

    I'm not. I'm just laughing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Free Hat


    I don't get it all anyway. What's the point of marriage? That would be my angle on such a thread (and that of my long term gf). I really don't get why people get so excited it. I don't see why you need the bit of paper to demonstrate your love for someone. I do that through the things I do every day. It wouldn't make my relationship any stronger. I voted yes, but for only equality reasons. The fact that it was relating to marriage is irrelevant to me.

    That was my argument to my long term girlfriend also. We got engaged last November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    endacl wrote: »
    Marriage whataboutery mega thread time? A stupidity repository?

    Prime location for a sniper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I do think polygamy is for future legislation. I have no opposition to it.

    I think it should be compulsory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Can the mods do their jobs please & delete these stupid ****ing threads because a few assholes are unhappy with how a democratic vote went.

    Expect threads like this for a while. Eventually they'll get bored, realise society hasn't collapsed and move onto the next threat to humanity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Why do some people assume that having a view on a marriage with 3 or more people means they are disgruntled with the result of the referendum? I thought they would be the same people who would welcome equal opportunity for all people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭S.O


    Or could marriage between close relatives. ie incest be next in the next 20 or 30 years, 20 years ago a referendum on same sex marriage wouldn't of passed , when society no longer sees certain things as taboo or wrong other things will follow suit, Germany EUs biggest economy a German committee said the following a few months ago.

    Laws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scrapped after a government ethics committee said the they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html

    If Germany scrapped anti incest laws other countries in the EU could follow suit, once incest is no longer a criminal offence as homosexuality once was, the next step is the argument for the right to marry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    It's a slippery slope indeed. Soon they'll be letting any idiot with an internet connection post on here about legalising incest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    S.O wrote: »
    Or could marriage between close relatives. ie incest be next in the next 20 or 30 years, 20 years ago a referendum on same sex marriage wouldn't of passed , when society no longer sees certain things as taboo or wrong other things will follow suit, Germany EUs biggest economy a German committee said the following a few months ago.



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html

    If Germany scrapped anti incest laws other countries in the EU could follow suit, once incest is no longer a criminal offence as homosexuality once was, the next step is the argument for the right to marry.

    I don't advocate incest, but it is none of the states business if siblings choose to be with each other.

    I don't think I would support incestuous marriage though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I don't approve of bigamy and neither do any of my wives.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    blackcard wrote: »
    Why do some people assume that having a view on a marriage with 3 or more people means they are disgruntled with the result of the referendum? I thought they would be the same people who would welcome equal opportunity for all people


    Access to monogamous civil marriage for people who are LGBT, is completely unrelated to bigamy or polygamous marriage.

    S.O wrote: »
    Or could marriage between close relatives. ie incest be next in the next 20 or 30 years, 20 years ago a referendum on same sex marriage wouldn't of passed , when society no longer sees certain things as taboo or wrong other things will follow suit, Germany EUs biggest economy a German committee said the following a few months ago.



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html

    If Germany scrapped anti incest laws other countries in the EU could follow suit, once incest is no longer a criminal offence as homosexuality once was, the next step is the argument for the right to marry.


    Nice misrepresentation there S.O., unsurprising really. What you failed to mention this time is that was simply a government funded think tank, not the German Government itself (the German Government have already said there are no plans to decriminalise incest and they are supported in this decision by the EHCR).

    You're also struggling if you think that the same arguments that were made for decriminalising homosexuality can be made for decriminalising incest.


    (not to mention that any arguments you could come up with are entirely facetious given you tried to argue against marriage equality for people who are LGBT, but you would have no issues with incestuous marriage... you'll forgive me if I can't take your arguments seriously).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    I think the right to Euthanasia will be the next big referendum. There's been a few court cases already & that's how it starts.

    Polygamy is something that I'd vote for but I don't see myself ever having more than one partner.

    But is there a limit to how many people could be legally married? Could over a 1000+ people marry just to break a world record? That'd could be a bit of a legal/tax mess!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 fidia


    Lol I have to laugh. All the people came back from all over the world to vote for this and yet they wouldn't vote out a government if the country was on fire.

    People are so stupid. They bought huge houses, went on holidays multiple times a year and then can't understand why they have to pay it all back now. Yet they will vote back in the same idiot government.

    I bet if there was a vote to allow gays to roger each other with a 1000 degree hot poker it would get the world voting. When the elections come around they wont be seen for dead.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I do think polygamy is for future legislation. I have no opposition to it.

    Will need a referendum, the Constitution still refers to marriage being contracted by two people only.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    How could any man not approve of the possibility of marrying two sisters, twins even.

    Giggity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Merces


    Creating these moronic hypothetical threads won't alter the referendum result. Just suck it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The day a Saudi Arabian woman can have 4 husbands I think human race is ready for polygamy (it's actually called polyandry then).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    kowloon wrote: »
    Expect threads like this for a while. Eventually they'll get bored, realise society hasn't collapsed and move onto the next threat to humanity.

    What's that supposed to mean it's all about Love equality ? If consenting adults want to engage in different kinds of relations who are we to stop them ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    blackcard wrote: »
    50 years ago, a majority would have opposed divorce and contraception in Ireland. 25 years ago, a majority would have opposed same sex marriage. In another 25 years, could bigamy be legal in Ireland? What would be wrong with it if all parties involved are happy with it? Nothing morally wrong with it.

    yeah, well…i think there can be no serious doubt that most remaining taboos and legal restrictions, be it around bigamy, polygamy, incest, paedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia or whatever, are going to fall in the decades and generations to come, both legally and in public perception; not only in ireland but all over europe and the western world…their abolition has already been on the agenda of major political parties (e.g. the german greens) and will be hot again once they feel the time is ripe…can’t say i am a great fan of the whole trend, but who am i to say…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,710 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    yeah, well…i think there can be no serious doubt that most remaining taboos and legal restrictions, be it around bigamy, polygamy, incest, paedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia or whatever, are going to fall in the decades and generations to come, both legally and in public perception; not only in ireland but all over europe and the western world…their abolition has already been on the agenda of major political parties (e.g. the german greens) and will be hot again once they feel the time is ripe…can’t say i am a great fan of the whole trend, but who am i to say…

    I think there very definitely can be serious doubt.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Latin phrase might sum it up: "vox populi, voc dei".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Is it possible to love two people at the same time? Is it possible to be okay with the fact that the person who loves you also loves someone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    What's that supposed to mean it's all about Love equality ? If consenting adults want to engage in different kinds of relations who are we to stop them ?

    Did you reply to the right post there? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Tony Beetroot


    Anything is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,829 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Can the mods do their jobs please & delete these stupid ****ing threads because a few assholes are unhappy with how a democratic vote went.

    Stupid threads are on boards all the time and I do not see what rules they are breaking would it not be undemocratic to not allow them. You know you have the democatic option of not clicking on these threads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Anything is possible.

    We might all, once more, slavishly follow men in skirts spouting a 2 thousand year old myths and legends as facts?

    shudder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    I think the line will be drawn where harm may be caused.

    Polygamy is no bother really, since it only involves consenting adults. Couldn't give a fiddle if it became law tbh.

    Incest, I would feel, could involve coercing a family member into something that hurts them. You know, grooming within families. So I think it's a non runner.

    Democracy does not mean liberalizing everything imo. It just means that people, in their wisdom, will decide what is acceptable to them or not, and what the majority wants will win.

    And I think the majority of people are intelligent enough to make the right decisions, ie. if it doesn't hurt anyone, it's fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Has to prostitution next , thats if it needs a referendum to be legalised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    WTF is d'craic with all the threads implying same sex marriage is a first step away from 'normal'. It's just a side step to 'slightly unfamiliar for the moment give it a few years'.

    There is no continuum from heterosexual marriage to marrying a mixed leaf salad. Implying otherwise is bizarre, and is frankly insulting given what the overwhelming majority of us voted in favour of.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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