foreigners with heavy women

Buzz Meeks · 22-05-2015 11:04PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not that I'm being racist but

Some of my best friends are foreigners with heavy women.

Clandestine · 22-05-2015 11:09PM

Both parties are desperate?

Wibbs · 22-05-2015 11:09PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Aye. I know people will say beauty is objective - and it is, but attractiveness is subjective and malleable. In the west, fat pale women once held a ranking in the attractiveness stakes as slim, tanned women do now.

Whatever about pale and we'll leave Coco Chanel out of it for the moment, "fat" as attractive was pretty thin on the ground(pun intended) for most of western history. Sure catwalk model twigs were pretty much never in play for straight men, but neither were obese women. Slim to plump was the order of the day. Even Rubens who is oft trotted out as a painter of the obese, painted hefty enough women, but with the same hip waist ratio as the Venus de Milo or Kate Moss. They weren't barrel shaped anyway. Hell one of the first descriptions of eating disorders among women was by ancient Greek doctors.

MarkAnthony · 22-05-2015 11:15PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Whatever about pale and we'll leave Coco Chanel out of it for the moment, "fat" as attractive was pretty thin on the ground(pun intended) for most of western history. Sure catwalk model twigs were pretty much never in play for straight men, but neither were obese women. Slim to plump was the order of the day. Even Rubens who is oft trotted out as a painter of the obese, painted hefty enough women, but with the same hip waist ratio as the Venus de Milo or Kate Moss. They weren't barrel shaped anyway. Hell one of the first descriptions of eating disorders among women was by ancient Greek doctors.

Frankly that's nonsense. There's no way you can compare today's ideal figure to the Victorian or renaissance ideals. Since the 90's there's been some redress but that's brought it's own issues and ideals that can't be met; which is and always will be the standard. If everyone could have a hourglass figure and DD boobs it wouldn't be sexy. Hence why in cultures where the norm is underweight, over weight becomes the standard to achieve.

Joe prim · 22-05-2015 11:16PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Not that I'm being spellist but what is a gigalo?

I think its an older version of a pedalo, who likes little boats.

Stojkovic · 22-05-2015 11:16PM

Jan Laco wrote: »

I didn't know there was an Irish view of beauty.

Its the view after ten pints of guinness.

Joe prim · 22-05-2015 11:20PM

Jan Laco wrote: »

I didn't know there was an Irish view of beauty.

How wrong you were!
http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/showbiz/4658182/Twink-in-the-dock-on-62nd-birthday.html

Beta Canis Majoris · 22-05-2015 11:23PM

It's quite obvious, but not politically correct to say why OP.

You know why, I know why, everyone knows why, it has even been hinted at on this thread already, but to state it in public implies you are a racist for some odd reason.

Wibbs · 22-05-2015 11:24PM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Frankly that's nonsense. There's no way you can compare today's ideal figure to the Victorian or renaissance ideals.

Actually you can. And go further back to Roman and Greek ideals too. Hip/waist ratio for a start. Botticelli's Venus is hardly a fat woman. The Victorian ideal was for a tiny waist(with attendant bustle to accentuate the hip waist ratio deal), even the paleolithic venus figures who were crazily obese had a similar hip to waist ratio. At no point in history was it this kinda shape.

Cold War Kid · 22-05-2015 11:29PM

Wibbs wrote: »

"fat" as attractive was pretty thin on the ground(pun intended) for most of western history. Sure catwalk model twigs were pretty much never in play for straight men, but neither were obese women. Slim to plump was the order of the day. Even Rubens who is oft trotted out as a painter of the obese, painted hefty enough women, but with the same hip waist ratio as the Venus de Milo or Kate Moss. They weren't barrel shaped anyway.

That's what I mean by fat though - the Rubens and Botticelli gals; not obese ladies.

Beta Canis Majoris wrote: »

It's quite obvious, but not politically correct to say why OP.

You know why, I know why, everyone knows why, it has even been hinted at on this thread already, but to state it in public implies you are a racist for some odd reason.

I recognise the phenomenon but I honestly don't know why.

MarkAnthony · 22-05-2015 11:30PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Actually you can. And go further back to Roman and Greek ideals too. Hip/waist ratio for a start. Botticelli's Venus is hardly a fat woman. The Victorian ideal was for a tiny waist(with attendant bustle to accentuate the hip waist ratio deal), even the paleolithic venus figures who were crazily obese had a similar hip to waist ratio. At no point in history was it this kinda shape.

No of course it wasn't. But trying to use one measurement to suggest that women in the Victorian/Renaissance and Greek periods wouldn't have been considered larger ladies is, to be kind, understating it. They would have very likely tipped the scales at what we today consider obese.

Beta Canis Majoris · 22-05-2015 11:32PM

Only on a Friday night in after hours would you find a heated discussion on the attractiveness of victorian-era women.

Cuban Pete · 22-05-2015 11:34PM

Beta Canis Majoris wrote: »

It's quite obvious, but not politically correct to say why OP.

You know why, I know why, everyone knows why, it has even been hinted at on this thread already, but to state it in public implies you are a racist for some odd reason.

For those of us that don't know, why don't you elucidate?

Beta Canis Majoris · 22-05-2015 11:36PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

That's what I mean by fat though - the Rubens and Botticelli gals; not obese ladies.

I recognise the phenomenon but I honestly don't know why.

They want citizenship through naturalisation.

MarkAnthony · 22-05-2015 11:37PM

Anyway, an early night for me but if I can't motorboat it - it doesn't do it for me.

Mr_Muffin · 22-05-2015 11:38PM

It's to get a Visa.

Irish men won't have them so they are easy targets.

Beta Canis Majoris · 22-05-2015 11:39PM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

No of course it wasn't. But trying to use one measurement to suggest that women in the Victorian/Renaissance and Greek periods wouldn't have been considered larger ladies is, to be kind, understating it. They would have very likely tipped the scales at what we today consider obese.

It's not the Greeks it's the Chinese he's after..

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2015 11:41PM

Two things ive noticed African / African American fellas love big women and fried chicken.

That is all.

nc19 · 22-05-2015 11:45PM

PTH2009 wrote:

What is it with foreign lads going out with heavier/vunrable women ??.I mean these are good looking men and the women are horrible. Are the men gigalos??.

The fat horrible wrecks are the only ones that will go with them from what I've seen.

deise08 · 22-05-2015 11:47PM

Too thin for the foreigners.
Too fat for the Irish.

What is a girl to do?

the_syco · 22-05-2015 11:49PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

What is it with foreign lads going out with heavier/vunrable women ??

If you're fat, you have the money to be fat. You don't need money to be starving thin.

Thus, in a lot of cultures, fatness = wealth, and this also can mean fatness = hotness.

PucaMama · 23-05-2015 12:05AM

How are women more vulnerable because they are fat??

Op have you just been rejected by a woman or something? Bit bitter? Sad? Lonely? Or just feeling like being a bit of a tw*t?

mikom · 23-05-2015 12:08AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

foreigners with heavy women
What is it with foreign lads going out with heavier/vunrable women ??.I mean these are good looking men and the women are horrible. Are the men gigalos??.

Not that I'm being racist but I don't trust those lads something about them

In fairness you need a big flute to plow through the layers of fat.

Hans Bricks · 23-05-2015 12:16AM

I've noticed that too myself. I have to admire their lax standards though. Nice beanbag for them to fall asleep on after sex.

I suppose aswell, large or overweight women are a lot less common in developing countries + couple that with the fact that white women would be exotic from their POV.

machiavellianme · 23-05-2015 12:18AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Got that Roxette song stuck in my head now, thanks OP.

Which Roxette song?

nocoverart · 23-05-2015 12:20AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

What is it with foreign lads going out with heavier/vunrable women ??.I mean these are good looking men and the women are horrible. Are the men gigalos??.

Not that I'm being racist but I don't trust those lads something about them

No wonder these women are vulnerable with people like you around.

eternal · 23-05-2015 12:22AM

It's all crap. I got a lot more attention from African guys when I was much slimmer. I wouldn't get that much now and I'm a bit heavier so this is a sweeping, ridiculous statement.

punisher5112 · 23-05-2015 12:24AM

It was well known that these guys would shack up with a heifer and then get citizenship.

Its gone mad that everyone thinks one is racist when they use foreigner.

Sure its fine all us Irish are foreign too.....

I always think of that 1 heather off eastenders when I see these couples.

23-05-2015 12:28AM

There's a lot of poison masquerading as humour on this thread.

punisher5112 · 23-05-2015 12:30AM

eternal wrote: »

It's all crap. I got a lot more attention from African guys when I was much slimmer. I wouldn't get that much now and I'm a bit heavier so this is a sweeping, ridiculous statement.

Your doing something wrong.

You need to be much much bigger.

foreigners with heavy women

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