Benfica fan battered.

Reoil · 20-05-2015 08:17PM

I've seen a breast of chicken more "battered" than that.

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 08:20PM

Policeman caught on video now claims man spat at him, very dubious story from the cop. Even if the cop story is true, it does not justify wading in to attack a family

20-05-2015 08:39PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Policeman caught on video now claims man spat at him, very dubious story from the cop. Even if the cop story is true, it does not justify wading in to attack a family

I think if someone spits at a cop, he should expect a few cracked ribs and anyone who steps in can expect a thump too.

But again that is to suggest there is some truth to the spitting allegation, which is not apparent from the video.

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 08:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think if someone spits at a cop, he should expect a few cracked ribs and anyone who steps in can expect a thump too.

Why?

20-05-2015 08:46PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Why?

Because they are cops! They should be treated with a certain deference, their job is to preserve law and order and they will get extra protection from the State in doing so. It's the way things work, it applies here so for example killing a Garda remained a capital offence long after it ceased to apply to other murders, attacks on the police force in any country are usually treated much more seriously than other assaults.

Baron Kurtz · 20-05-2015 08:47PM

Uriel. wrote: »

I don't believe he was punched twice. And hitting a man once.... Neither, to me would constitute a battering to be honest... Assault... Sure but not a battering

Eh, watch again. The old chap bent in to help and was clattered twice. That is patently true from the footage.

kavanada · 20-05-2015 08:51PM

There was a bit of argy-bargy by the opposing fans in the grounds earlier.

The cop said to the dad why would you bring your young kids to a game like this and the dad responded with, 'well if the police did their job it would be safe'.

That kicked it off. Everything about that arrest was wrong. Even the knee to the back when the cop came around the back of him to handcuff him.

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 08:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because they are cops! They should be treated with a certain deference, their job is to preserve law and order and they will get extra protection from the State in doing so. It's the way things work, it applies here so for example killing a Garda remained a capital offence long after it ceased to apply to other murders, attacks on the police force in any country are usually treated much more seriously than other assaults.

So you advocate a few cracked ribs and a belting for anyone who intervenes when someone spits at a cop? Is this if the spit hits him? What is the punishment if the spit misses? What do you advocate for giving back cheek to a cop, hand gestures or pushing? Do you have a list of punishment that you advocate? Is this called punishment beatings?

Baron Kurtz · 20-05-2015 08:56PM

kavanada wrote: »

There was a bit of argy-bargy by the opposing fans in the grounds earlier.

The cop said to the dad why would you bring your young kids to a game like this and the dad responded with, 'well if the police did their job it would be safe'.

That kicked it off. Everything about that arrest was wrong. Even the knee to the back when the cop came around the back of him to handcuff him.

Yeah, true, atmosphere can incite irrational adrenalin rushed behavior even from those you think are well equipped to deal with this sort of thing. They appear either acting on fear from the nature of the environment in general and took it out on these vulnerable or just had a hankering to release it on same. Or else the spitting allegation is true and they reacted, albeit over reacted.

20-05-2015 08:56PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

So you advocate a few cracked ribs and a belting for anyone who intervenes when someone spits at a cop? Is this if the spit hits him? What is the punishment if the spit misses? What do you advocate for giving back cheek to a cop, hand gestures or pushing? Do you have a list of punishment that you advocate?

No. No list. I don't even advocate cracked ribs, nor do I demand a certain number of cracked ribs depending on hits and misses and gestures. I wish everyone would live in peace and love and hold hands. But in the real world, anyone spitting at a cop can expect a fairly swift retribution and shouldn't be in the least bit surprised to get it. Have you tried it?

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 08:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No. No list. I don't even advocate cracked ribs, nor do I demand a certain number of cracked ribs depending on hits and misses and gestures. I wish everyone would live in peace and love and hold hands. But in the real world, anyone spitting at a cop can expect a fairly swift retribution and shouldn't be in the least bit surprised to get it. Have you tried it?

What cracking someones ribs for spitting at me? No, I would be arrested and charged with assault

20-05-2015 09:05PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

What cracking someones ribs for spitting at me? No, I would be arrested and charged with assault

No, spat at a Garda. Or say if there is a melee and everyone is getting stuck in, turn around and wade into the Garda on the basis that it's all the same.

kupus · 20-05-2015 09:17PM

Portuguese police are not exactly known for keeping their calm. no surprise here.

Egginacup · 20-05-2015 09:23PM

mg1982 wrote: »

Morale of the story. Don't mess with the Portuguese police.

Moral of the story:

If you're a cop, don't mess with the public you are sworn to protect. Sure, act the cnut if it gets you off. Sooner or later you'll get your comeuppance.

suicide_circus · 20-05-2015 09:51PM

I don't see a 42 year old man spitting at an armed riot cop while surrounded by police and in the company of his two young children and elderly father...

Gatling · 20-05-2015 09:53PM

Egginacup wrote: »

Moral of the story:

If you're a cop, don't mess with the public you are sworn to protect. Sure, act the cnut if it gets you off. Sooner or later you'll get your comeuppance.

The Berkut pro Russian police unit in Ukraine comes to mind .
The ones who shot and killed 130+ protesters

Gatling · 20-05-2015 09:54PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I don't see a 42 year old man spitting at an armed riot cop while surrounded by police and in the company of his two young children and elderly father...

Must have pretty good eyesight

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 09:57PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I don't see a 42 year old man spitting at an armed riot cop while surrounded by police and in the company of his two young children and elderly father...

That is because the cop is talking shite, but if he was telling the truth, you have some on here saying the dad deserved his cracked ribs and the 9 year old getting jumped on with the 66 year deserving a couple of thumps

darkpagandeath · 20-05-2015 10:01PM

People do love the hyperbole. American style legal terms used to say people were punched, 65 being elderly, Child being jumped on. Man brutally battened when barely even glanced. But I guess people believed missiles thrown at the water protests and a pensioner imprisoned so meh.

happyoutscan · 20-05-2015 10:02PM

Absolutely nothing to see here.

FTA69 · 20-05-2015 10:03PM

So a fella gets tackled on to the ground and flaked with a baton in front of his screaming child while another cop boxes his elderly father into the face and some people are trivialising that as nothing? Usual internet hardman nonsense to be honest, "sure what's a baton into the ribs and a dig in the face, I wouldn't call that a battering pffftt".

Unfortunately what you see here is a typical story of a thug who thinks he has carte blanche to assault people because he has a badge and a uniform. It's the worst form of bullying.

darkpagandeath · 20-05-2015 10:05PM

FTA69 wrote: »

So a fella gets tackled on to the ground and flaked with a baton in front of his screaming child while another cop boxes his elderly father into the face and some people are trivialising that as nothing? Usual internet hardman nonsense to be honest, "sure what's a baton into the ribs and a dig in the face, I wouldn't call that a battering pffftt".

Unfortunately what you see here is a typical story of a thug who thinks he has carte blanche to assault people because he has a badge and a uniform. It's the worst form of bullying.

Seems we have not learnt anything, Do we not remember the video of the Garda ?

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 10:06PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

Absolutely nothing to see here.

20-05-2015 10:14PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

That is because the cop is talking shite, but if he was telling the truth, you have some on here saying the dad deserved his cracked ribs and the 9 year old getting jumped on with the 66 year deserving a couple of thumps

I missed the bit with the 9 year old was jumped on. What did that consist of? I thought he got dragged out of the way. I still think that if anyone spat on a Garda here, a policeman in the UK, a gendarme in France, a carabinieri in Italy or whatever, they would get a few digs from a baton. I'd like to hear from someone who spat at one and expected a different outcome. But again, I'm just not sure he spat...just that if he did it puts a very different complexion on events.

A Dub in Glasgo · 20-05-2015 10:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I missed the bit with the 9 year old was jumped on. What did that consist of?

Just for you

mg1982 · 20-05-2015 10:35PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I missed the bit with the 9 year old was jumped on. What did that consist of? I thought he got dragged out of the way. I still think that if anyone spat on a Garda here, a policeman in the UK, a gendarme in France, a carabinieri in Italy or whatever, they would get a few digs from a baton. I'd like to hear from someone who spat at one and expected a different outcome. But again, I'm just not sure he spat...just that if he did it puts a very different complexion on events.

It's different on the European mainland. I know the French and Italian cops have an air of menace about them so it's best not too tread on there toes. They dont take crap from anyone.

20-05-2015 10:39PM

mg1982 wrote: »

It's different on the European mainland. I know the French and Italian cops have an air of menace about them so it's best not too tread on there toes. They dont take crap from anyone.

I fully agree. I wouldn't spit on a Garda here. I wouldn't even look wrongly at a gendarme walking out of a niteclub in Paris, when they have the batons drawn and are hitting their boots and you know they just want to swing.

Mongfinder General · 20-05-2015 10:42PM

mg1982 wrote: »

It's different on the European mainland. I know the French and Italian cops have an air of menace about them so it's best not too tread on there toes. They dont take crap from anyone.

Too true. I've been to football matches in Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece to name a few places. They don't fcuk about.

Wacker The Attacker · 20-05-2015 11:02PM

It was worse during my hoolie days. Proper scrapping.

The blues away was the day of the season

Wacker The Attacker · 20-05-2015 11:05PM

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Too true. I've been to football matches in Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece to name a few places. They don't fcuk about.

I use to be a season ticket holder with an english premier league club who regularly qualified for european competition.

I used to think that english fans were responsible for every fight until I saw what happened with these police forces. I now fully understand why the english fans fight back.

Benfica fan battered.

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