Guinness advert Tom Crean factual mistakes

Grab All Association · 20-05-2015 01:37AM #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXf93CEI4t0

1. Did you notice the Guinness logo on the pint glasses? That variation of the Guinness logo didn't exist until 1996/7.

2. Guinness draught was launched in 1959. Before that it only came in bottles.

I bet you can't spot the other mistakes in this advert.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 20-05-2015 01:49AM

In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

Mint Aero · 20-05-2015 01:51AM

You sir are dead wrong. That in the cave was Tom's vision of the future. Just because the stuff in his vision didn't come to fruition until much later doesn't make the ad wrong for it is what Tom saw in his mind.

KungPao · 20-05-2015 01:53AM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

Hey egghead, sing Fair Harvard!

c_man · 20-05-2015 02:01AM

Chris___ wrote: »

I bet you can't spot the other mistakes in this advert.

Real life isn't black and white.

An Claidheamh · 20-05-2015 02:10AM

They also forgot to mention also he supported the British during the War of Independence.

Apparently he wasn't brave during that period.

All this "unsung hero" stuff edits that out.

john the one · 20-05-2015 02:12AM

Yeah, that fella in the add definitely isn't this Tom Creek character. It must be an imposter. I went to college with him in the ad

Tony Beetroot · 20-05-2015 03:19AM

Did Tom Crean go to the north pole at all

20-05-2015 03:40AM

An Claidheamh wrote: »

They also forgot to mention also he supported the British during the War of Independence.

Apparently he wasn't brave during that period.

All this "unsung hero" stuff edits that out.

I understood he was a member of FF when it was founded, and was very close to the family of Thomas Ashe, close enough to be raided by the Black and Tans. You got a source for this assertion that he supported the British.

AlmightyCushion · 20-05-2015 04:15AM

Tony Beetroot wrote: »

Did Tom Crean go to the north pole at all

Yes, although he didn't go to the geographic north pole. Instead, he went to visit a man called Piotr, a Polish guy who lived in Fermanagh.

hatrickpatrick · 20-05-2015 04:17AM

Chris___ wrote: »

2. Guinness draught was launched in 1959. Before that it only came in bottles.

Without a widget, which I gather is a more modern invention, how did they achieve the head?

Adyx · 20-05-2015 04:37AM

Wilfully ignoring facts so they can sell some crappy beer? Shocking display from Diageo. Although it's not quite up there with O2 leaving out the shadow from a window mullion in one of their ads. Don't know who they thought would fall for that!

1gunsnroses · 20-05-2015 04:40AM

Tom Crean was one of the greatest Irishmen of all time but never really recognised due to his association with the crown a pity really.

Peregrinus · 20-05-2015 05:27AM

Chris___ wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXf93CEI4t0

1. Did you notice the Guinness logo on the pint glasses? That variation of the Guinness logo didn't exist until 1996/7.

2. Guinness draught was launched in 1959. Before that it only came in bottles.

I bet you can't spot the other mistakes in this advert.

If you're going to be nitpicky you have to pick your nits correctly. The currently-marketed draught stout - "IDS", we called it in the brewery - was introduced in 1959, but of course draught stout was sold before that. IDS was a modification of the draught that had been sold up to that point. It was designed to be racked into aluminium kegs as opposed to the previously-used wooden casks.

In fact Guinness didn't start bottling beer until the twentieth century; all beer left James's gate in casks, though from about the 1860s local distributors or even individual publicans were licensed to bottle the beer supplied to them and sell it in bottle under the Guinness name (and with a trademarked label supplied by Guinness).

A bonus point for anyone who has the skinny on what "IDS" stands for!

kneemos · 20-05-2015 05:34AM

Peregrinus wrote: »

If you're going to be nitpicky you have to pick your nits correctly. The currently-marketed draught stout - "IDS", we called it in the brewery - was introduced in 1959, but of course draught stout was sold before that. IDS was a modification of the draught that had been sold up to that point. It was designed to be racked into aluminium kegs as opposed to the previously-used wooden casks.

In fact Guinness didn't start bottling beer until the twentieth century; all beer left James's gate in casks, though from about the 1860s local distributors or even individual publicans were licensed to bottle the beer supplied to them and sell it in bottle under the Guinness name (and with a trademarked label supplied by Guinness).

A bonus point for anyone who has the skinny on what "IDS" stands for!

I Dig Shakira.

AlmightyCushion · 20-05-2015 05:36AM

kneemos wrote: »

I Dig Shakira.

I Dicked Shakira.

whiskeyman · 20-05-2015 08:18AM

Tony Beetroot wrote: »

Did Tom Crean go to the north pole at all

Nope.
It was all a staged hoax.
Any pictures of the time were actually posed on the moon...

Wang King · 20-05-2015 08:24AM

I Do Shïts.....esp after 10 pints of the stuff

iDave · 20-05-2015 08:25AM

Saw the play in the Olympia last week. Pretty decent.

Also the tans raided his home. When they saw his Royal Navy medals they left him alone.

Anyway an incredible surviver and brave man.

whisky_galore · 20-05-2015 08:29AM

It's an ad to sell beer, not a fcuking documentary.

Señor Fancy Pants · 20-05-2015 08:31AM

His name wasn't even Tom!

It was Percy-Percephany

Diageo, lying bastards.

Zombienosh · 20-05-2015 08:32AM

wait a second...............THESE ARE FAKE HANDS.

Massimo Cassagrande · 20-05-2015 08:33AM

Sure back then anyone could say they did anything - "I'm off to the North Pole Lads"..."ah Grand Tom, sure have a great time.."

Tom heads off for a few months in Bettystown, grows a beard and has pints, wanders back down to Kerry. "Jasus Lads, that North Pole was only massive"..."Well done Tom, have a pint"...."Cheers Lads..them polar bears though, jasus ye'd want to see them..."

Who'd be any the wiser? No-ones gonna ask for go-pro footage and most people wouldn't have known where Leitrim was, let alone the North Pole..

Tom goes around for the next few years regaling people with stories of his adventure. Great success. Maybe he was a big fat fibber...stick that in yer mis-logoed pint....

Tordelback · 20-05-2015 08:36AM

1gunsnroses wrote: »

Tom Crean was one of the greatest Irishmen of all time but never really recognised due to his association with the crown a pity really.

Particularly unfortunate since he could hardly have got very far in his explorations had he instead chosen to serve in the Irish Navy in the 1890s, which as I understand it was a toy boat in the boy Pearse's bath at the time. People need to stop dividing everyone into proud nationalist and cowardly collaborator, and remember that up to Independence effectively everything an Irish person did was in 'association with the Crown', from buying a stamp to sitting an exam. It was the only game in town.

whisky_galore · 20-05-2015 08:37AM

Tordelback wrote: »

Particularly unfortunate since he could hardly have got very far in his explorations had he instead chosen to serve in the Irish Navy in the 1890s, which as I understand it was a toy boat in the boy Pearse's bath at the time. People need to remember that up to Independence effectively everything an Irish person did was in 'association with the Crown', from buying a stamp to sitting an exam. It as the only game in town.

WTF?
Hate to burst your bubble, but we didn't have a navy then.

20-05-2015 08:42AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

WTF?
Hate to burst your bubble, but we didn't have a navy then.

Pearse had bubble baths?

Tordelback · 20-05-2015 08:44AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

WTF?
Hate to burst your bubble, but we didn't have a navy then.

Um.

Hitchens · 20-05-2015 08:48AM

Tom Crean and Bull McCabe went to Primary School together ......fact!

who the fug · 20-05-2015 08:48AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Pearse had bubble baths?

Yeah, he got that from his Unitarian Brummie father

Luckycharms_74 · 20-05-2015 08:49AM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

Celticfire · 20-05-2015 08:54AM

Tom Crean hated the taste of Guinness , he was more a sherry man.

Guinness advert Tom Crean factual mistakes

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